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The faults of X and Y

Discussion in 'Pokémon Generation VI Discussion' started by gentwoer, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. gentwoer

    gentwoer Well-Known Member

    Inspired by the one for Gen 2....

    The gawd awful pacing. It seems to be FOREVER between your first and second badge but you can get like the last 3 or 4 badges within an hour or less

    Team Flare is super lame. Not the worst even Pokemon gang (Plasma still sucks sorry Plasma fans they do) but they're lame

    AZ (had to look up his name btw) is really underdeveloped. He seems like he was suppose to be a lot more important than he actually is.

    Diana is also pretty underdeveloped as a Champion compared to say Blue, Lance in gen 2, and Alder.

    The pandering is a bit....pandering. You'll get a Kanto starter early enough you can basically trash your Kalos starter if you want. Pikachu saying its name and everything appears super early in the game. Lucario probably the most successful post-gen 1 Pokemon is given to you. And Mewtwo is available in the post-game with a Mega evolution just cuz
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  2. Leonhart

    Leonhart Well-Known Member

    The gap between Viola's Gym and Zakuro's Gym irked me. It gave us a chance to explore several places of interest around Kalos, but I felt that the second Gym may as well have existed in Koboku (Camphrier) Town.
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  3. M.P.

    M.P. Retired

    Awful pacing, bland rivals and villain team, and lacking postgame were the biggest flaws of X and Y, imo.
  4. SubtleVVeirdoh

    SubtleVVeirdoh Unova Enthusiast

    Music was lackluster, post game was garbage, the rivals were as easy as they come, TOO MUCH Kanto.

    They really didn’t let Kalos shine in areas where it needed/should’ve.
  5. Twilight-Kun

    Twilight-Kun Pokemon World Champion

    There was way too much focus put on Mega Evolution (imagine if the gyms after Korrina had all used Mega Evolution) and the entirety of Team Flare felt tacked on

    "Dear Kalos region, we're gonna kill all of you and start anew."
    "That's nice."

    "Muahaha! We have captured the legendary pokémon of Kalos!"
    "...When? Where?"

    "Now face this gauntlet of repetitive battles!"
    "But why though?"

    "I'm gonna make you immortal!"
    "Why is that a bad thing?"

    "And now we're gonna fire the weapon!"
    "You knocked a few houses over and nobody seems upset about it."

    I did like the visuals of the weapon firing, and Xerneas/Yveltal's awakening is probably one of the best in the series

    While the gym and elite four battle themes are extremely lackluster, I found the battles themselves fun, and the visuals of the different E4 rooms are probably the best of the 3DS era

    The best part of the entire game is definitely the Looker Quests though
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  6. RileyXY1

    RileyXY1 Young Battle Trainer

    Lackluster rivals
    Bad pacing
    Worst villainous team of the entire franchise
    Underwhelming champion
    Almost no post-game
  7. WishIhadaManafi5

    WishIhadaManafi5 Happy Holidays! Staff Member Moderator

    Lack of post-game, that was the biggest issue I had with X and Y.
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  8. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    What made X and Y really easy was because of the new EXP Share that was able to level up all of your Pokémon even though it can be turned off. It was obtained one you beat the first Gym and I mean all your Pokémon by technicality are holding EXP Shares since then. Without level scaling, Pokémon are going to get the same EXP all over again without getting their EXP gain getting scaled down as their level increases, which opens up for easier Pokémon level grinding.

    Also like many others, I found the pacing to be horrible especially how long it took to get from Santalune City to Cyllage City and I got my second, third, fourth and fifth Gym Badges all in one day. Seriously.
    Yeah, there wasn't much to it too. I probably spent a lot of my postgame time in the Friend Safari.
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  9. WishIhadaManafi5

    WishIhadaManafi5 Happy Holidays! Staff Member Moderator

    Yea I can see what you mean there.

    Fair enough.

    That was and is me as well. Did and still do my share of shiny hunting in it.
  10. LadyTriox

    LadyTriox ~Cool like Korrina is~*snuggles her* <33

    I'm gonna be completely blunt and say:
    The major flaw is not seeing Korrina much again after her early game story is over

    She's a great character.

    Yes I know I have a crush on her too but still.

    ....At least she gives you a free powerful pokemon though :p But she should be kalos' champion instead of Diantha.

    Nothing against Diantha.....its just Korrina is so much cooler to me *shrug*
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  11. Twilight-Kun

    Twilight-Kun Pokemon World Champion

    Except it's so easy to catch a Riolu very early and by the time she gives you a Lucario, odds are you already have one of your own that's already got some EV training in, so...
    I felt kinda bad boxing the one she gave me
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  12. Dragalge

    Dragalge Arctozolt

    This was one of the issues I had in XY (and Gen VI in general). I hated how they gave you Mega Evolution so early along with that Lucario which can make cheesing through the game even easier. Yes I don't have to use that stuff but the fact that they still give you those options is just bad imo.

    I didn't feel bad about boxing the Lucario. I wanted my team to be Kalos Pokemon lol
  13. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    I didn't even bother putting Lucario in my team. Not just that it gets stat boosts from Mega Evolution, Mega Lucario has Adaptability as an Ability and it makes the game so much easier.
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  14. SubtleVVeirdoh

    SubtleVVeirdoh Unova Enthusiast

    Really would’ve been nice to see A Kalos ‘mon get a mega, even just the starters.
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  15. Emperor Empoleon

    Emperor Empoleon Honor of Kalos

    Perhaps my biggest problem with X&Y is how underdeveloped the story and world were after B&W really raised the bar.
  16. LadyTriox

    LadyTriox ~Cool like Korrina is~*snuggles her* <33

    Another issue I had with X and Y was probably having to wait till the next day and stuff to get different clothes at the stores xD

    Thanks to having not played for awhile after awhile I no longer know what days I didn't shop, making collecting everything I didn't get yet feel impossible to me.

    I'm glad the sun/moon/ultra sun/ultra moon games NEVER had this problem ^_^;; Maybe they didn't have such fancy clothing overall; but at least it didn't feel confusing as much to get them all since they no longer were 'different clothes each day you played'. xD; Thats so much better IMO.
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  17. Captain Jigglypuff

    Captain Jigglypuff Leader of Jigglypuff Army Staff Member Moderator

    Programming AZ’s Floette completely into the game with actual stats and signature move yet never releasing it to players always annoyed me.
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  18. WishIhadaManafi5

    WishIhadaManafi5 Happy Holidays! Staff Member Moderator

    Yea that one is annoying. Why have it there and not give players a chance to get a hold of one?
  19. RileyXY1

    RileyXY1 Young Battle Trainer

    I don't know why AZ's Floette was never released. It's still in SM and USUM's data, Light of Ruin's animation was updated, and it even has its own unique Pokedex entry.
  20. WishIhadaManafi5

    WishIhadaManafi5 Happy Holidays! Staff Member Moderator

    Wow. That one is a head scratcher. Why go so far if not to do so? I hope they release it some day.
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