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umbreunatic

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Oh my...I haven't posted here in aaaaaages!

And I do seem to remember you xD
I haven't posted for like 1-2 years. So I will introduce myself again xD (this being the first post made by me in 2010).

I am a dutch guy, 22 years old, my name is Merijn, which probably none of you can pronounce correctly.

I figured out that I liked boys three years ago. Back then I was in love with a hetero guy (got that information when I said I liked him on a intimid way).

I was active on sppf back then, but then I started dating guys irl, I think that was when I became inactive here. I met a lot of dutch gay guys, and some are false *****es to say so. They are like pretending to like you, just to have a ****/ kissing with touching, etc. Even so, I had a gay "friend" (not boyfriend) who talked me into his bed, screwed me, took back everything, and started saying I was a **** who wanted to have sex all the time. really funny :) I even had a gay stalker. a guy that couldn't stop following me, treathening me, gossiping about me (If all that he say is right, then I would be a pedofile, having autism, and I am lying about my study to impress people.. etc. etc.). The only way he had influence on me, was via friends. And he is one of the big names in the small dutch gay world.

Anyway :p that was the bad stuff :p. The netherlands are really pro gay, so coming out to my friends was kinda easy, my parents where also okay with it, though my mother wants me to confirm things all the time (Do I still like girls, did I have sex and how many times, and how did I do it xD).

Anyway :p. currently I have found a boy I liked, and he liked me too, we are now into a relationship (today being day 11) he is my first boyfriend, and it is in a way very new to me, but! it is even more new to him, I am the first guy with whom he kissed (although he already knew he was gay). But I am his first close gay friend (to say so xD).

Anyway :p I am still into the clouds. :) although there is a little thing bothering me, our ages, we differ 6 years, he is 6 years younger. I have nothing to fear from his family, since I already met them, and they are all very cool with me (even his dad and mum).

Today is also his birthday, he became 16 (I am 22!), and for the netherlands it means that we are now legal to have a relation.

Anyway :p. you probably would like to ask me "what do you see in such a young person?" When I started at the gay world, I thought if a boy and I differ less then 4 ages, then it is okay to me, otherwise not. It soon became 5 years. And the upper boundary (dating an older guy) also changed, that became like 8-9 years.

Right now, because of things said before (the stalker) I have a negative reputation among the homosexuals from 18-21. Not all know me, but my name became famous along the gay people in the netherlands, of course this only goes for the people out of the core of the dutch gay world (some gay person who only has heterosexual friends has nothing to do with me of course ;))

Anyway :p because of that all, I understood I wanted to find a reliable person, someone that doesn't swap sides just because of one false rumor about me. That is why I looked more to older people.

Anyway :p. my current boyfriend crossed my path, he is still young, he is intelligent, cute, already fully grown (he is 6"5 or in dutch 197 cm), making him as tall as me xD. He is very grown up for his age, you would say he acts like a person of 19 years old, maybe even 20.

But yeah, I am crazy about him :) and he is crazy about me :D
and I am so lucky to have found him. Anyway :p I am back, but don't expect to much from me.

I have learned a lot in the past years, and I can give advice.

One big thing I wanted to say. Earlier I was very proud that I was dutch, and that our country supports gay people. But currently I think that even so, the hatred under gays in the netherlands, is really big, and a lot of gay teens commit suicuide for that reason. That is what makes me sad.
 

theverybest

That noone ever was?
Haha, well, I wouldn't mind having a 22 year old boyfriend...and that's almost a 5 year difference for me...hmmm...but maybe I'M being naive. Ahaha.

@Nacreous.

See how it works out, don't give up the chance for something great if that's the vibe you're getting. But I assure you 100% that you are wholely repeating things that have happened to me that, well, just plain sucked. I sat here and laughed to myself for a couple seconds because it is legitimately like you're describing my past ahaha. But, everyone's life and situation IS different. But. If you tell him that you lke him and he says something like... "Oh sorry man, I really like you alot because you're my best friend and I do love you like a brother...just not...like that.". Bail. If any variation of the message in that sentence is uttered, bail. For now however, I don't see why you can't at least have a fantastic and valuable friendship as long as you don't start blurring the lines of friendship. And I'm pretty sure we all know what that means.
 

Nacreous

Fire trainer
Haha, well, I wouldn't mind having a 22 year old boyfriend...and that's almost a 5 year difference for me...hmmm...but maybe I'M being naive. Ahaha.

@Nacreous.

See how it works out, don't give up the chance for something great if that's the vibe you're getting. But I assure you 100% that you are wholely repeating things that have happened to me that, well, just plain sucked. I sat here and laughed to myself for a couple seconds because it is legitimately like you're describing my past ahaha. But, everyone's life and situation IS different. But. If you tell him that you lke him and he says something like... "Oh sorry man, I really like you alot because you're my best friend and I do love you like a brother...just not...like that.". Bail. If any variation of the message in that sentence is uttered, bail. For now however, I don't see why you can't at least have a fantastic and valuable friendship as long as you don't start blurring the lines of friendship. And I'm pretty sure we all know what that means.

I won't tell him that I like him.I'm not that naive...I'll just tell him that I'm bi & that'll open the road to some stuff....
 
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Durp

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But currently I think that even so, the hatred under gays in the netherlands, is really big, and a lot of gay teens commit suicuide for that reason. That is what makes me sad.

I know what you mean about the suicide thing. I've almost been there, I used to think about suicide over my sexuality for a long time. (I've only told one person this privately.) :( The only thing that keeps me from actually doing it is my general disgust with the act, my mom, and my beliefs.

Has anyone else had problems like that? DX
 

Kyogre Master V3.0

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I know what you mean about the suicide thing. I've almost been there, I used to think about suicide over my sexuality for a long time. (I've only told one person this privately.) :( The only thing that keeps me from actually doing it is my general disgust with the act, my mom, and my beliefs.

Has anyone else had problems like that? DX

I did used to think about suicide a (very) little bit. It was early on when I hadn't fully come to terms with being gay (I knew I was, but was not comfortable with it at all). At that age tho, I only really slightly entertained the idea, and knew I'd never be able to actually go through with it. Now, I still get comments etc. every now and again, but all the people at school know how thick-skinned I am about it. Since I came out last year, a few people have said things, but I just laugh them off (not just a facade, cos all of them were a**holes who weren't friends anyway) cos I knew all their pre-conceptions were wrong :)

Oh, and @Umbreunatic: I remember u too! There are so many members who've fallen off the radar recently :S Maybe they'll all return over summer :p
 

scarecrow_stitches

blissfully dead
Umbreonatic--Welcome back! I don't remember you, but then again I haven't been active in this forum for very long.

I'm 22 as well, and my boyfriend is 10 years older than me... So maybe I'm biased, but to me age is just a number. If you really love someone, go for it. (given the legalities, of course!) I prefer older guys in general, but the only reason for that is because a lot of younger guys I've met just don't know what they want. Not to mention the maturity level is a big issue in and of itself.

I've also dabbled with the idea of suicide... Only ever acted upon it once, but thankfully I'm still around. :) It can be really tough comming to terms with yourself.
 

Spookz

Lumos
I know what you mean about the suicide thing. I've almost been there, I used to think about suicide over my sexuality for a long time. (I've only told one person this privately.) :( The only thing that keeps me from actually doing it is my general disgust with the act, my mom, and my beliefs.

Has anyone else had problems like that? DX
Ooooh yeaah.

I've been struggling with depression for a hella long time, but it grew incredibly bad this past year, mostly due to issues I've been having with the girl I like. Once Spring hit, I started seriously thinking about suicide. Its gotten to a point where I often don't eat for days on end, can't sleep, and self-harm a lot. Probably the only reason I didn't kill myself is because I was too scared to do it, but I considered it plenty.

The girl I like found out about all of this, and she's helped me incredibly: forced me to start therapy, and now I'm on depression medication. I'm still struggling with all of this, but I'm getting better. I think I'm mostly doing better because she (the girl I like) and I are finally being honest with each other about how we feel towards each other.

We're not in a relationship per-se, but we're really close now, and well.. pretty much the only reason we're not "together" is because we both have issues with commitment. But, I pretty much consider us to be in a pseudo-relationship. I mean, she took my virginity so.. there's something there anyway.

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In other news, AT&T is still sucking hard, and I still don't have internet in my apartment (I'm on campus at the moment, about to go to therapy actually). So posts from me are still going to be sporadic. : /
 

Durp

Well-Known Member
My suicidal thoughts were just about how my dad and other people would feel about it, because he used to talk to me about how I would be dating in high school and getting married to a man someday. And I just know he wouldn't approve of me. Back when my mom knew (she was supportive), she told my dad and he completely denied it, and he's gone around and called people faggots before. :/


Another thing I have is that I've never had a crush or even dated in my life (lol); for years I've heard cries of "that's going to change when you're older!", but I AM older now, I'll be 18 in over a month... It's really confusing to have EVERYONE around me feeling these almost alien emotions and experiences while it's never happened to me. I'm hoping I'm just a 'late bloomer', but... *shrug*
 
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Fused

Shun the nonbeliever
I just got back from - Actually, before I get a little pissy, let me say Hello! to all of the new members. So...

Hello!

Anyways, I just got back from yearbook camp. First off, I got a cold there. But it didn't get bad until today... when I get back home. It could be worse. I also learned that there is a fine line between Yearbook Camp and Cheerleading Camp. Seriously, I still have a headache.

Pretty much all the guys there were gay but... no offense, but I really am just not attracted to feminine men. Like, there was a guy... I didn't know he was a guy until today. That's a little sad. There was a guy there that I liked... had a girlfriend. You know. He goes to an all-boys school and our first night there, me and my friends were talking to him and he was like "Every guy here except us and you [me] is gay." Me and friends started laughing and I told him and he was like "I'm so sorry! I feel really bad!" when really he said that I was pretty straight which isn't an insult really (my friends say that I'm really gay, but **** them). Maybe that's why I liked him - he was so cute when he was upset. Well, he was cute anyways.

Going to the camp, a bug bite me below my eye, and now it's a little swollen. It doesn't look terrible, but you can tell it's swollen. Then we won like "Best Attitude Award" or something. Well, I was thirsty and my friend had to go the bathroom, so right after the assembly we left (we hadn't gotten the award yet.) By the time we're done, our group comes back and our advisor/teacher was all like "I'm really disappointed you didn't hear all the nice things the coordinator said about you guys." And I'm just sitting there like "Why are you so pissy? It was about us, she already told us how nice we were, and if we really missed something, we should be mad about it, not you." So, that's just whatever.

Then on the way back, I was talking to my mom and she was all like "You're (step) sister is going into labor." so I'm like all excited to just sit at home and then I'm like "Now I gotta go to the hospital" (which I actually wouldn't have minded) but my mom and step-dad took the bike so I couldn't go and she was supposed to call me but she hasn't yet so I'll call her after this post. (Am I breaking the 4th wall?)

And then... It's only an hour long drive from my house to the camp. On the way back, I heard "California Gurls" at least 5 times - all on different stations. I like the song (It's stuck in my head now) but that's a little ridiculous.

Okay, thanks for letting me vent or whatever this was and I'll definitely be happier once I get to sleep in my own bed for a few nights in a row. ':) I never knew how much I loved this place until I'm away from it for so long.
 

theverybest

That noone ever was?
Ohhhh Katy Perry. Sluuuuut chic has never been so coated in sugary edible condiments.

I wouldn't say that I am not attracted to feminine men....only because I'm a little PC about the whole gender roles thing. But, I'm not gonna lie when I say that I wanna man who can build me a log cabin. I want to see him work up a sweat in a pair of too tight jeans with a big thick belt on there, huge boots, and a plaid shirt that's just hanging there unbuttoned. Yum. Not to mention that he's got a sprinkling front body hair and 4-day scruff. Dark tan/red skin from working out in the sun. And a permanent smell of pine and musk.

Now THAT was approaching the vicinity of softcore porn in a public forum.

Anyways, I would probably still go for a feminine guy. If you went for a guy who everyone speculates heavily is gay because of his demeanor...well, as much as I wouldn't like to say it, he must be at least a little feminine, right? However, I am definitely not attracted to men who think that saying things like this: "I woke up in a boiling bath of mascara and lipstick because the *****es wanna be me 'cuz I suck all the ****. Glitter glitter glitter, **** my insides with your hot plastic curling iron silicon portrait." *coughJeffreeStar&Wannabes* Because they think that feminine qualities are being *****y, insecure, gossipy, etc. Men who act like whiny little divas all the time give me a severe case of nausea and indigestion. And no, Pepto won't help, seeing as pink stuff only reminds me of their dreadful personalities. And, I have actually met at least one or two of these guys in my lifetime and felt sad, being young, dreading with horror that the "gay community" consists of sociopaths like those. And even being all out BEAR is too much for me to handle. Yes, be proud of who you are, and flaunt it, but to me, calling yourself whatever and only that in a community is too restrictive.

But, I better stop before I start sound preachy.

Ahahahaha, I'm sitting here laughing by myself watching my cats wrestle all up and down my living room. Gotta love those little siamese furballs. <3 xD

Man...I really needa listen to California gurls now. I have an iTunes library with 10580 songs. Most of them being underground indie/Big indie labels/beatles/oldies/all that jazz/crap like that/Arcade<3Fire ...but man. Every now and then I love the peppy pop songs the radio poops out. I can't stand it when all the little hipster kids have got their heads too far up their vintage assholes to enjoy stuff that just sounds fun, lol. Even if it doens't really have a lot of...err...substance. Well, I suppose it really is time for Katy Perry now.

PIECE IZZOWT.
 
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Fused

Shun the nonbeliever
I wouldn't say that I am not attracted to feminine men....only because I'm a little PC about the whole gender roles thing. But, I'm not gonna lie when I say that I wanna man who can build me a log cabin. I want to see him work up a sweat in a pair of too tight jeans with a big thick belt on there, huge boots, and a plaid shirt that's just hanging there unbuttoned. Yum. Not to mention that he's got a sprinkling front body hair and 4-day scruff. Dark tan/red skin from working out in the sun. And a permanent smell of pine and musk.

Bears are fun, but I like the more athletic type. Just a typical guy's guy really.

Man...I really needa listen to California gurls now. I have an iTunes library with 10580 songs. Most of them being underground indie/Big indie labels/beatles/oldies/all that jazz/crap like that/Arcade<3Fire ...but man. Every now and then I love the peppy pop songs the radio poops out. I can't stand it when all the little hipster kids have got their heads too far up their vintage assholes to enjoy stuff that just sounds fun, lol. Even if it doens't really have a lot of...err...substance. Well, I suppose it really is time for Katy Perry now.

"California Gurls" is sickeningly catchy. I can't stop hearing it, even when it's not playing.

I do like the old stuff though, but I can easily go from Journey to 3OH!3 somehow.
 

Durp

Well-Known Member
However, I am definitely not attracted to men who think that saying things like this: "I woke up in a boiling bath of mascara and lipstick because the *****es wanna be me 'cuz I suck all the ****. Glitter glitter glitter, **** my insides with your hot plastic curling iron silicon portrait." *coughJeffreeStar&Wannabes* Because they think that feminine qualities are being *****y, insecure, gossipy, etc. Men who act like whiny little divas all the time give me a severe case of nausea and indigestion.

UGH, JEFFREE STAR DX That even sounds like something he'd write. x__x I'm not going to lie, I like about.....two or three songs by him (and even then I can admit they're terrible), but as a person he's just...gross. I don't like over-the-top people like that. :c
 

Nacreous

Fire trainer
Guyz...remember I told you about a crush...well,I told him I'm bi & he was totally ok with it'__'...he was too ok
 

scarecrow_stitches

blissfully dead
My god I f***ing HATE Jeffrey Star! He's like, THE ugliest tranny ever and his music is just ridiculous. (IF you can even call it music. It sounds bloody awful.) He's not even talented! Anyone can mumble obscenities over crappy synthesizers. What's even worse are all his little followers who cake on eyeshadow and lipstick and think they're "famous" because they have 1000 myspace friends. haha.

I also despise Katy Perry... (Yes, I'm SO hating on Katy Perry. What of it?) As catchy as her songs are, she's a talentless little skank. Have you heard her live? It's pretty terrible, she can't even sing. I wish both of them would just drop off the face of the planet so everyone would stop obsessing about them.

/end rant.

RE: feminine guys and whatnot... I like a manly man. Tall, hairy, stocky, masculine... Yep. If you have to second guess their gayness then it's fair game in my book. I've dated a few femmy guys and they just don't do it for me.
 

theverybest

That noone ever was?
Jeffree Star is...an atrocity for so many reasons.

Athletic boys are sooooooooo good. As long they're not cocky. Well, they can be cocky as long as it's not their ego that's too big.

I say I like "manlier" men, because, standing at about 6' with big bones...I still like to feel small ahaha. So, I like my men large. NOt like chubchaser large though. I mean like stocky. But not like "that man's fat so let's be polite and call him stocky", I mean like you were born with a large ribcage and large bone structure and you gain muscle from sitting there and breathing. However, I like those buff short guys too. They're all like teddy bears. A friend of mine once asked me, as I'm sure friends of yours have asked you...hmmm...when it comes to gifts do I get more joy out of giving them or receiving them. I responded saying it all depends on the other party, if they're bigger--like taller, or how I described--it's nicer for them to give the gift. However, if they're shorter, I prefer giving gifts to them. Ahahaha, I tried saying that carefully. Not that we can't switch that up! ;) And not that all short men are really doomed to a life of...well, we know.
 

Piplup

Member
I guess I'll hop aboard. :D

I don't like fem. guys, well at least I don't think I could handle one. No pun intended. I like "manly" guys. Hmmm yes, just an all-n-all guy's guy. Especially, one who knows stuff about cars because I know nothing. I think guys who are somewhat cocky are cute sometimes, even if they have a big ego. :( I know it's bad, but I usually think they're cute but cannot stand them personally. I totally would jump in bed with them.!
 

Piplup

Member
I guess I'll hop aboard. :D

I don't like fem. guys, well at least I don't think I could handle one. No pun intended. I like "manly" guys. Hmmm yes, just an all-n-all guy's guy. Especially, one who knows stuff about cars because I know nothing. I think guys who are somewhat cocky are cute sometimes, even if they have a big ego. :( I know it's bad, but I usually think they're cute but cannot stand them personally. I totally would jump in bed with them.!
 

Piplup

Member
I guess I'll hop aboard. :D

I don't like fem. guys, well at least I don't think I could handle one. No pun intended. I like "manly" guys. Hmmm yes, just an all-n-all guy's guy. Especially, one who knows stuff about cars because I know nothing. I think guys who are somewhat cocky are cute sometimes, even if they have a big ego. :( I know it's bad, but I usually think they're cute but cannot stand them personally. I totally would jump in bed with them.!
 

LucienKaftan

Aspiring author.
I leave for one day and there are several more pages!?

And Piplup- I believe we got the message around end of post one.

Everyone else- I like trimmed. Not overly muscled, but not a complete Hulk.
 

Fused

Shun the nonbeliever
My god I f***ing HATE Jeffrey Star! He's like, THE ugliest tranny ever and his music is just ridiculous. (IF you can even call it music. It sounds bloody awful.) He's not even talented! Anyone can mumble obscenities over crappy synthesizers. What's even worse are all his little followers who cake on eyeshadow and lipstick and think they're "famous" because they have 1000 myspace friends. haha.

I've honestly heard one Jeffree Star song... and I wish I hadn't.

I also despise Katy Perry... (Yes, I'm SO hating on Katy Perry. What of it?) As catchy as her songs are, she's a talentless little skank. Have you heard her live? It's pretty terrible, she can't even sing. I wish both of them would just drop off the face of the planet so everyone would stop obsessing about them.

Well, at least Katy Perry makes music that is bearable. Sure, she can't sing good live, but that's why I only listen to studio recordings lol

RE: feminine guys and whatnot... I like a manly man. Tall, hairy, stocky, masculine... Yep. If you have to second guess their gayness then it's fair game in my book. I've dated a few femmy guys and they just don't do it for me.

I just don't like the obvious gay guys. Like you said, if their sexuality has to be second guessed, then I want in line.

Athletic boys are sooooooooo good. As long they're not cocky. Well, they can be cocky as long as it's not their ego that's too big.

Exactly. Athletic, not douchebags. But really, athletes have some ego issues, but as long as they aren't on par with Kanye West, I'm good.

Everyone else- I like trimmed. Not overly muscled, but not a complete Hulk.

Like bodybuilders? Yeah, those just turn me off. Like, they look alien in appearance, like out of proportion. Not to mention, I also hate seeing every vein in your body being pushed out by your muscles. Like, I just don't find veins sexy, I'm sorry if you do. So yeah, athletic type builds are more my thing: big enough to protect you, small enough that a hug won't suffocate you.
 
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