The Hoenn Triangle

[The Last Jedi]

That's great I can probably trade tonight (around midnight GMT) or tomorrow morning.

I'll be online most of the day so we can trade, just send me a pm, I think I have you added already so we should be all set.

 

[Fossildude747]

Hmm, still a bit confused on IV's I think I get the breeding stuff but I don't know which IV's I want for my team... Suggestions?

Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake

Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Thunder Punch
- Mach Punch
- Facade

Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Bold Nature
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss
- Protect
- Wish

Greninja @ Expert Belt
Ability: Protean
EVs: 44 Atk / 212 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
IVs: 30 Def / 30 SpD / 30 Spe
- Ice Beam
- Rock Slide
- Scald
- Dark Pulse

Eelektross @ Assault Vest
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Atk / 100 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- Volt Switch
- Super Fang

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 184 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Facade
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Still waiting for some answers :/

 

[LynxForte]

Still waiting for some answers :/

6 perfect IVs is never bad, but 5 perfect is always the goal. If you're not using a stat, then you don't need to worry about getting a perfect IV for that one.

i.e, MegaZard X, perfect IVs in HP, Atk, Def, SpD, Spe

When you're using a Mixed mon, you don't necessarily need 6 perfect IVs, but you do want one of the attack stats at 31 and the other one ideally at 30, if not 31

 

[Fossildude747]

6 perfect IVs is never bad, but 5 perfect is always the goal. If you're not using a stat, then you don't need to worry about getting a perfect IV for that one.

i.e, MegaZard X, perfect IVs in HP, Atk, Def, SpD, Spe

When you're using a Mixed mon, you don't necessarily need 6 perfect IVs, but you do want one of the attack stats at 31 and the other one ideally at 30, if not 31

Thanks, I'm starting out with greninja, so I'm thinking all stats except HP? He's a fragile mon, so I really see no point in it. Caught tons of frogadier at the friend safari today, and had some froakies too. A lot of the frogadier have 31 HP IV, but I'm breeding a frogadier and a ditto atm to get some other IV's and some female froakie. I think breeding is all set atm but I just wanted 2 know what IVS fit my mons, makes sense now.

Meanwhile, I need quite a few friend safari for the following: Anything in the timburr line, anything in gliscor line, anything in chansey line, and anything in eelektross line. Anyone have these?

 

[LynxForte]

Thanks, I'm starting out with greninja, so I'm thinking all stats except HP? He's a fragile mon, so I really see no point in it. Caught tons of frogadier at the friend safari today, and had some froakies too. A lot of the frogadier have 31 HP IV, but I'm breeding a frogadier and a ditto atm to get some other IV's and some female froakie. I think breeding is all set atm but I just wanted 2 know what IVS fit my mons, makes sense now.

Meanwhile, I need quite a few friend safari for the following: Anything in the timburr line, anything in gliscor line, anything in chansey line, and anything in eelektross line. Anyone have these?

No, HP and defenses are something you always want to go with because that could be the difference in you getting off another attack and winning or not. In Greninjas case, I wouldn't make him mixed unless you're giving him Shadow Sneak. And honestly I wouldn't even make him physical because his physical move pool isn't impressive.

As for the safari's, Gligar hordes in the wild is the only way to get its HA. The best way to do that is to take a high level pokemon with high physical def and hp and that can use toxic. If you have ORAS, you can get a happiny from one of the mirage locations. Gurdurr in Victory of Road in XY and Tynamo is in one of the Mirage locations in ORAS

 

[Shade2000]

Thanks, I'm starting out with greninja, so I'm thinking all stats except HP? He's a fragile mon, so I really see no point in it. Caught tons of frogadier at the friend safari today, and had some froakies too. A lot of the frogadier have 31 HP IV, but I'm breeding a frogadier and a ditto atm to get some other IV's and some female froakie. I think breeding is all set atm but I just wanted 2 know what IVS fit my mons, makes sense now.

Meanwhile, I need quite a few friend safari for the following: Anything in the timburr line, anything in gliscor line, anything in chansey line, and anything in eelektross line. Anyone have these?

You should have it missing attack, as greninja is an awful physical attacker, and you probably aren't using it anyway.
Played a liTTle pokemon today. Didn't get much done. Idk why i'm so slow at run-throughs. I mean I got to mt. pyre. Actually i'll play now, unless someone wants to battle on PS?

 

[Fossildude747]

No, HP and defenses are something you always want to go with because that could be the difference in you getting off another attack and winning or not. In Greninjas case, I wouldn't make him mixed unless you're giving him Shadow Sneak. And honestly I wouldn't even make him physical because his physical move pool isn't impressive.

As for the safari's, Gligar hordes in the wild is the only way to get its HA. The best way to do that is to take a high level pokemon with high physical def and hp and that can use toxic. If you have ORAS, you can get a happiny from one of the mirage locations. Gurdurr in Victory of Road in XY and Tynamo is in one of the Mirage locations in ORAS

Well, he had Rock Slide to deal with talonflame easily, but I can easily replace that with hidden power rock

Also, no I don't have ORAS, like I said not getting it til Christmas. I am building this on X and transfer it to ORAS after.

So, how do IV's determine hidden power? I know they do but how?

 

[Shade2000]

Fossildude, theres a link here about it http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hidden_Power_(move)/Calculation

Anyone up for a showdown battle, XY or ORAS. (My team is XY but i'll run it on ORAS (its an in game team too))

 

[LynxForte]

Well, he had Rock Slide to deal with talonflame easily, but I can easily replace that with hidden power rock

Also, no I don't have ORAS, like I said not getting it til Christmas. I am building this on X and transfer it to ORAS after.

So, how do IV's determine hidden power? I know they do but how?

Greninja is not the one you want to deal with Talonflame. Talonflame doesn't want to come in on greninja and greninja doesn't want to see Talonflame, but if they happen to be on the field, then grenjinja dies to brave bird. If by some chance talonflame comes in and you predict it, scald/hydro pump OHKOs it.

Anyone up for a showdown battle, XY or ORAS. (My team is XY but i'll run it on ORAS (its an in game team too))

Im up for a battle

 

[Fossildude747]

Greninja is not the one you want to deal with Talonflame. Talonflame doesn't want to come in on greninja and greninja doesn't want to see Talonflame, but if they happen to be on the field, then grenjinja dies to brave bird. If by some chance talonflame comes in and you predict it, scald/hydro pump OHKOs it.

Then what should I replace rock slide with?

 

[LynxForte]

Then what should I replace rock slide with?

When you get ORAS, you'll want Gunk shot on it. But for now, Extrasensory might work. Or you can trade it to me and I'll put gunk shot on it for you

 

[Shade2000]

Okay, thanks Lynx. I just realised I don't have my team on this computer so i'll just remake it sorry! My username is Shade2000 by the way.

 

[LynxForte]

Okay, thanks Lynx. I just realised I don't have my team on this computer so i'll just remake it sorry! My username is Shade2000 by the way.

Sorry, meant to say WiFi.

 

[Fossildude747]

When you get ORAS, you'll want Gunk shot on it. But for now, Extrasensory might work. Or you can trade it to me and I'll put gunk shot on it for you

Umm, it's not even bred in game yet. However, when it is could you do that for me? But why would I want a physical move on it?

 

[LynxForte]

Umm, it's not even bred in game yet. However, when it is could you do that for me? But why would I want a physical move on it?

Gunk shot deals with the obvious fairy switch-ins, Azumarill, Clefable, Sylveon and maybe Gardevoir

 

[Shade2000]

Sorry, meant to say WiFi.

Oh okay! I'll just get out my Y version then XD

 

[Fossildude747]

Gunk shot deals with the obvious fairy switch-ins, Azumarill, Clefable, Sylveon and maybe Gardevoir

Oh, I see. Well then, might be a while til it's bred, but I've been on all morning catching frogadier. I gotta start breeding them for some nice IV's. I got the nature and ability down, so that's good. Just gotta get good IV's. Everything besides attack right?

Also, I don't think my team counters talonflame... I'll try to work that out. Talonflame is pretty common as far as I know.

EDIT: This look like a good moveset for my conkeldurr to counter talonflame?

Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Rock Slide
- Mach Punch
- Facade

 

[LynxForte]

Oh, I see. Well then, might be a while til it's bred, but I've been on all morning catching frogadier. I gotta start breeding them for some nice IV's. I got the nature and ability down, so that's good. Just gotta get good IV's. Everything besides attack right?

Also, I don't think my team counters talonflame... I'll try to work that out. Talonflame is pretty common as far as I know.

From the looks of it, you're team doesn't appreciate TalonFlame. Gliscor could take some hits, but its not going to force it out.

 

[Fossildude747]

So talonflame is my team's weakness? I tried to switch conkeldurr a move for it:

Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Rock Slide
- Mach Punch
- Facade

That good?

 

[LynxForte]

Its not really a weakness, your team just doesn't appreciate it.