I'm really excited for this, it's time to make a name for ourselves! Submerged Embassy and Eternian Forces are currently warring so they're out, and Pixelf Dreams doesn't even have a war team, so they're out too. So that means we can only really choose from Veneno Oscuridad and Dracanea (I hope I'm spelling all of these right). I'd kind of prefer VE because honestly based on both clans' war histories they seem more beatable, not trying to bash them or anything. We also might want to find some subs.
I usually prefer Rapid Spin over Defog because I don't like getting rid of my own hazards, plus Starmie seems to do more for your team, so I'd go with him. If Greninja ends up staying in OU this team would have problems with him, but other than that it looks pretty solid even if it is the epitome of standard OU
Yeah, Greninja's probably gonna go, I'm laddering on the Suspect Test ladder now, not sure how I'll vote, probably pro-ban just because I find Greninja annoying to play against and I never used it that much anyway. Those Starmie EVs should be fine, I've never run bulky Starmie so I wouldnt know a better set.
also it's on page 903-905 at the bottom of the Leauge post in the spoiler marked "banned list". Secondly, Talonflame is checked a hell of a lot easier in the tier due to typing alone - Gale Wings doesn't really help much against Tyranitar, Heatran, Rotom- Wash and Landorus- Therian (it's 4 biggest checks/counters). Greninja hasn't got a definitive typing - it changes due to Protean. That's not a problem - look at XY and you'll see it was stopped pretty well by Fairy types, some Steel types and obviously the faster revenge killers. Now it gets Gunk Shot and Low Kick, so goodbye Fairy and Steel types. Now Tentacruel, Chansey, Porygon2 and maybe Empoleon are its only counters (and they're all 3HKOed by the right coverage move at least - either the rarely-used Extrasensory or Low Kick) and of course the revenge killers. Nothing switches into it. Talonflame can be switched into at least. Hence I'm pro ban. It's not that it's annoying, it's that it 2HKOes nearly everything and outspeeds most of the metagame without a boost, meaning offensive teams are ****ed since they lack switch-ins. Teambuilding is then centered around beating Greninja, who thanks to Protean can adapt to the metagame. Most people running Rotom- Wash to beat it? Then Greninja will start to run HP Grass, which it can pull off decently, etc. Anyway, nice battle too.
Talonflame is not as broken as you claim. Talonflame actually has plenty of counters that completely stop it in its tracks and are actually viable in OU (Heatran, Tyranitar, Rotom-W), not to mention T-Flame's crippling Stealth Rock weakness and reliance on recoil moves causing him to be worn down very quickly. A counter can switch in on any hit, eat it up and KO back, and nothing can do this to Greninja provided that it is carrying the right moves. The problem with Greninja is that now that it has Gunk Shot and Low Kick it can beat all of its checks from XY, so you can never switch anything in safely. And good luck getting your faster Pokemon or your scarfer in without sacking something or taking a huge hit from Greninja. I think both sides have valid points and arguments, but personally I'm gonna vote to ban it.
You're not always guaranteed to get off a Spin or Defog, especially if the opponent is applying a lot of offensive pressure, but even so that only addresses one of Talonflame's shortcomings, and definitely doesn't justify a ban.