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The Isle of Armor & The Crown Tundra DLC - RUMOR & SPECULATION Thread [Spoilers]

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
To my knowledge, yes--it only works if it's regular Greninja. Torrent and Protean can be changed to something else, but not Battle Bond.
Battle Bond is the only way to get Ash-Grenija in the games which is pretty weird to be canon in the games when anime stuff usually isn’t aside from a Dex entry or two.
 

Lord Godwin

The Lord of Darkness
I suspect that the new Regis will have abilities that either boost their Dragon/Electric moves respectively, or in same way increases their power. I hope they give the other Regis new secondary abilities (or even just replace their HA) to also have the same effect for their respective typings.
There were some very nice theories that their abilities that enable Eleki to hit ground types and Drako to hit very-types.

BTW, I'm very disappointed that no Pokemon besides Salazzle have Corrosion as their ability (Image Eternatus having it as a HA).
 

Akashin

Well-Known Member
Battle Bond is the only way to get Ash-Grenija in the games which is pretty weird to be canon in the games when anime stuff usually isn’t aside from a Dex entry or two.
Unlike other anime concepts, Ash-Greninja was designed by GameFreak, so it being in the games was never an outlandish idea. For all intents and purposes it's no different than the Power Construct Zygarde Formes in that respect; it just feels like it is because Ash-Greninja is directly tied to an anime-only character, and because 10% and 100% Zygarde filled a role we already naturally expected to be filled in some way.

There were some very nice theories that their abilities that enable Eleki to hit ground types and Drako to hit very-types.

BTW, I'm very disappointed that no Pokemon besides Salazzle have Corrosion as their ability (Image Eternatus having it as a HA).
Between its Ability being called Dragon's Maw and its Signature Move relying on its hp being high, I've wondered if maybe Regidrago's ability will allow it to heal in some way. Maybe either when hit by or when using Dragon Moves.

But if we assume Dragon's Maw will be similar in effect to Transistor, it may be that both will simply strengthen their respective STAB Moves (as Transistor implies), as Fairy Queen suggested.
 

BCVM22

Well-Known Member
Battle Bond is the only way to get Ash-Grenija in the games which is pretty weird to be canon in the games when anime stuff usually isn’t aside from a Dex entry or two.
It was definitely not designed exclusively for the anime. Repeated circumstantial evidence suggests it (and the Zygarde formes) would have played a large role in a Kalos title that was never produced, and by the time that decision was made, the anime was in mid-stream and couldn't shift away.

It would have been exceedingly awkward had the games reverse-adapted an anime-only concept solely to shoehorn them into Alola, where neither Zygarde nor Greninja have all that much meaning.
 

Heatleo

Older Pokemon Trainer
This is something I saw today I was wondering about. There’s people posting on YouTube that mega evolution may return in pokemon sword/shield thru the crown tundra dlc. Now this is a big if...but if it happened what would you think and how would they change it to work with the balance of Gmax so it’s not too OP?
 

Nutter t.KK

can Mega Evolve!
It was definitely not designed exclusively for the anime. Repeated circumstantial evidence suggests it (and the Zygarde formes) would have played a large role in a Kalos title that was never produced, and by the time that decision was made, the anime was in mid-stream and couldn't shift away.

It would have been exceedingly awkward had the games reverse-adapted an anime-only concept solely to shoehorn them into Alola, where neither Zygarde nor Greninja have all that much meaning.
Indeed. The show needs a few weeks lead time for a minor change, and even then Major Arc, which both Zydarde (Squsishy) and Ash-Greninja are, would not be easily written out and replace with out it being filler for the year due to the "rush" of having to create nearly a year of episodes in quick succession.

Just to give you an idea, on how far ahead they are. In The Japanese show, The Voice Actor for Professor Oak, Samson Oak and the Narrator passed away midway though SM run, they had enough episodes in the bag to last a few months after his death.. Even then the following Movie was voiced by him. I should point out that the VA is usually the step between Script and Animation..

Besides given the rough timing of the introduction of Squishy, would have around the time of a new game's launch during the year "off".

This is something I saw today I was wondering about. There’s people posting on YouTube that mega evolution may return in pokemon sword/shield thru the crown tundra dlc. Now this is a big if...but if it happened what would you think and how would they change it to work with the balance of Gmax so it’s not too OP?
Personally I think it's more of a wish, than actual thing to come. (It would proberbly been promoted if it was to retrun.)

I think I have good idea on how the in game battle effects would be.. But I'd doubt that you'd be able to G-max a MEga, you may be able to Dyna max it, but it's going to mess up the Competative situcation due to the Ability and Stat boosts of both things.
 

divinepokemonXZ

The Beast That Eat Dragon Types for Breakfast
I kind of feel like Dragapult, Duraludon, and Dracovish are hints of D/P remakes. Cuz they're the same elements as Giratina, Dialga, and Palkia, lol.
That's stretching it I think by that logic the presence of the Hoenn starters is evidence of another remake for Gen 3 on the way.
 

Bus

Well-Known Member
There were some very nice theories that their abilities that enable Eleki to hit ground types and Drako to hit very-types.

BTW, I'm very disappointed that no Pokemon besides Salazzle have Corrosion as their ability (Image Eternatus having it as a HA).
I'm still a little dissapointed Corrosion doesn't allow Poison attacks to hit Steel types. I mean, the whole thing behind it is you're corroding metal; melting it. It should allow them to actually hit Steel types as opposed to just being able to Poison them. It wouldn't be too overpowered since Salazzle is the only one with it.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
I'm still a little dissapointed Corrosion doesn't allow Poison attacks to hit Steel types. I mean, the whole thing behind it is you're corroding metal; melting it. It should allow them to actually hit Steel types as opposed to just being able to Poison them. It wouldn't be too overpowered since Salazzle is the only one with it.
I think that Corrosion should work on certain Poison attacks when it comes to affecting Steel types. I think any of the acid based moves (with the exception of Apple Acid unless Salandit and Salazzle get access to one of the mimicking moves in the future) and Venoshock, Clear Smog, And Smog. It wouldn’t make much sense if Cross Poison was able to damage a Steel type when Corrosion is in play because the in game description for Cross Poison is that the user creates a blade made of some sort poison blade and slashes away at the target. A blade of any kind isn’t going to do much of anything to a metal body.
 

Bus

Well-Known Member
I think that Corrosion should work on certain Poison attacks when it comes to affecting Steel types. I think any of the acid based moves (with the exception of Apple Acid unless Salandit and Salazzle get access to one of the mimicking moves in the future) and Venoshock, Clear Smog, And Smog. It wouldn’t make much sense if Cross Poison was able to damage a Steel type when Corrosion is in play because the in game description for Cross Poison is that the user creates a blade made of some sort poison blade and slashes away at the target. A blade of any kind isn’t going to do much of anything to a metal body.
Fair enough. The ones specifically with 'Acid' in their name does make sense. The ones referencing Smog and such would work too like you said. That would give us:
Acid
Acid Spray
Smog
Clear Smog
Acid Downpour (though that's G-Max, so it would be its special G-Max effect and suddenly effective against Steel so it may be a bit much)
Corrosive Gas (didn't even know this was a move until I looked up what attacks could have the 'good against steel' property we're hypothesizing)

Though that's it....wouldn't really call Venoshock worthy since that's clearly just a move that intensifies poison (hence why it does more damage if target's already poisoned).

Something for Gen 9 to consider, I guess. A bit late to add attacks now lol.
 

Ophie

Salingerian Phony
Just to give you an idea, on how far ahead they are. In The Japanese show, The Voice Actor for Professor Oak, Samson Oak and the Narrator passed away midway though SM run, they had enough episodes in the bag to last a few months after his death.. Even then the following Movie was voiced by him. I should point out that the VA is usually the step between Script and Animation..
A minor nitpick, but anime follows a different production sequence than animation from any other country in that the animation usually comes first, then the voice acting. The voice actors watch the animated scene played on a screen in front of them to get an idea of how and when they'll say their lines, and after they get the hang of it, they do their voice acting in time with the scene played again. (There are a few anime directors who do voice first, then animation, like Mamoru Hosoda and Satoshi Kon, but to my knowledge, the Pokémon TV anime has never had any of their involvement, and the actors themselves are very used to the process I described above and might get tripped up not having a screen playing the scene to watch, and those directors mostly only do movies where they can hire outside of the usuals.)

But that really means the lead time for the Pokémon anime is even further back than it might seem, as voice acting is one of the LAST steps to an anime (after that being sound mixing, cleanup, and distribution). More so in that the Pokémon anime is almost certainly produced in a "cascade" fashion, where every department is working at the same time, but on different episodes depending on how far into the process their department is. It's the only reasonable way I know of where a new episode can come out every week without a break. (This cascade process is how, for instance, you can have 26 episodes of The Simpsons every year, yet each episode takes about 8 months to go from script to ready-to-air.) If it's made in this way, the last episode to have Professor Oak's voice actor performing may have had its finalized script written several months to a year prior.

Does anyone know if that hidden ability item will work on legendary pokemon
I see no reason why it wouldn't, as long as the Legendary Pokémon itself has a Hidden Ability. Most don't, but a few do, such as Heatran and Suicune and Pals.

Fair enough. The ones specifically with 'Acid' in their name does make sense. The ones referencing Smog and such would work too like you said. That would give us:
Acid
Acid Spray
Smog
Clear Smog
Acid Downpour (though that's G-Max, so it would be its special G-Max effect and suddenly effective against Steel so it may be a bit much)
Corrosive Gas (didn't even know this was a move until I looked up what attacks could have the 'good against steel' property we're hypothesizing)

Though that's it....wouldn't really call Venoshock worthy since that's clearly just a move that intensifies poison (hence why it does more damage if target's already poisoned).

Something for Gen 9 to consider, I guess. A bit late to add attacks now lol.
I wasn't really too sure if Corrosive Gas would work against Steel-types, as I haven't actually tried it myself. That was the one to come to mind though.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
OK, so this is what I think might be in store with the new Regis, combining with the fact we will likely get a Sinnoh remake this console generation(they always remake a region with the new console). And some more speculation
  • Regieleki and Regidrago follow how the regular Regis are based off different ages. They are the modern and dark ages. So if they add more, I'm expecting a Fighting or Fairy type knight-based Regi for the medieval age(knights, those two types are often associated with heroism/many fairy tales come from that era), a Water type for the age of exploration and seafaring, and a Psychic type for the Space age in the future(aliens in Pokemon/Pokemon connected to space tend to be Psychic type)
  • Regidrago itself is mentioned as being incomplete. I'm putting my chips down that the DP remakes will have you unlock its true completed form, and it will be Dragon/Dark(the Pokemon itself looks kind of sinister, and it plays on the dark in the dark ages). To unlock Regigigas in DP you may need to move it and Regieleki over
  • If we are getting regional variants of the legendary birds, I am expecting that we might one day get regional variants of the Meltan line. Given the Pokemon is more "it's mythical because it's ancient and requires special interactivity" making it change depending on the region would be easy to justify. I mean, the birbs don't really have a specific origin or region-based myth to them unlike most legendaries, which from a lore perspective is probably why they're the first legendaries with a regional variant.
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
What are chapter quests? Did the datamine show a new city/town?


Remember seeing these at some point months prior in the past? These are supposedly some sort of leak of what the Crown Tundra plot will be like where it's split into 4 chapters, hence the Paper Mario reference I did there. Although this should be taken with a grain of salt. Won't really believe it until I actually see it. Unless this was debunked a long time ago and I never found out.
 
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