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The Mary-Sue ABC's

Dragonfree

Just me
The concept is fun and the ideas nice (somehow I thought after almost every stanza "But there aren't any more types of Sues! ... Oh, wait"), but the poetic rhythm gets quite awful at times (unless I just have a very messed-up sense of how the stress is placed in about 30% of the words you used in the whole thing - admittedly it's nothing new if my English pronunciation isn't good in that aspect, but it happens a bit too often in this to be just a matter of that). If you can't read it aloud in a fairly even rhythm with an equal amount of time between the stressed syllables and make it sound natural, it's probably a good idea to reword it. Parts like this:

Will be buff and handsome
(Please don’t ask how)

would probably be better worded as something more like

Is buff and handsome
(Don't ask me how)

Yeah, present tense probably isn't the most grammatically correct thing to put there, but it sounds better in the rhythm. If you do it like this, the first four lines sounds very natural together if you read it with the stress on the underlined words:

A is for Ash
Who ten years from now
Is buff and handsome
(Don’t ask me how)

There are many instances of this throughout the piece, which kind of ruin it for me. Some parts were also a bit unclear due to lack of commas (which, of course, I understand you not putting in, but they're still unclear):

I’m not someone’s pet
Nor a happy little toy
With legendary powers
I’m built to destroy

Okay, that could either be interpreted as

I'm not someone's pet nor a happy little toy. With legendary powers, I'm built to destroy.

or as

I'm not someone's pet nor a happy little toy with legendary powers. I'm built to destroy.

You could either fix that by putting the commas in (which does change the mood of the poem, so I can see why you wouldn't want to do that) or by rewording it.

(Incidentally, I think you only use 'nor' if you also have 'neither' in the sentence, but I might be wrong there.)

That's pretty much it. If you ever rewrote this again for some bizarre reason (which you most likely won't, considering you probably [and hopefully] don't have my obsession with rewriting everything), you should really work on the rhythm, but otherwise it's not too bad.

(I kind of get the same feeling as The Great Butler - I've always just interpreted it as me being absurdly paranoid, but whenever somebody writes anything parodical or critical in nature about fics in general, I get crazy conspiracy theories popping up in my head about how it must all be inspired by how horrible my fics are. Not that I really think it is, but it's always the first thing that enters my mind.)
 

Astinus

Well-Known Member
Dragonfree said:
(I kind of get the same feeling as The Great Butler - I've always just interpreted it as me being absurdly paranoid, but whenever somebody writes anything parodical or critical in nature about fics in general, I get crazy conspiracy theories popping up in my head about how it must all be inspired by how horrible my fics are. Not that I really think it is, but it's always the first thing that enters my mind.)

I get the same thoughts about my fics, which makes me even more paranoid, as no one has seen them yet... So I win. XD

The rhythm is slightly off in this poem. The beats couldn't be counted out the same. It might have something to do with the fact that some lines are short, while others are long. The difference of this is greatly seen between the stanzas of "B" and "C."

I must say that the truthfulness in this poem is bitting, as we have all come across, and even written a few Sues of our own. This is a great way to see which Sue it is.

I would also like to see a poem on the atrocities of grammar. Strunk and White must be rolling in their graves. ;;
 

Act

Let's Go Rangers!
The meter in most of them is just awful, but it was much worse about two weeks ago before I edited it ><. It tends to sort of shift between stanzas, especially in the first ones, which is really bad.

Here's the stress pattern I was going for:

A is for Ash
Who ten years from now
Will be buff and handsome
(Please don’t ask how)


It's strange, sort of a stressed-unstressed-unstressed-stressed-unstressed-(start over) kind of thing, and it probably plays out better in my head than on paper.

*shrug*

Actually, the more I think about it, the more fun a grammar one would be...
 
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Mystery Kid

Guest
No need to take it seriously guys. To me it seems like a bit of fun and Act did say that it was written two years ago.

But hey that's just my opinion.
 

Dragonfree

Just me
Act said:
The meter in most of them is just awful, but it was much worse about two weeks ago before I edited it ><. It tends to sort of shift between stanzas, especially in the first ones, which is really bad.

Here's the stress pattern I was going for:

A is for Ash
Who ten years from now
Will be buff and handsome
(Please don’t ask how)


It's strange, sort of a stressed-unstressed-unstressed-stressed-unstressed-(start over) kind of thing, and it probably plays out better in my head than on paper.

*shrug*

Actually, the more I think about it, the more fun a grammar one would be...
Hmm, I still think that pattern sounds a bit odd, mainly in the third line - it seems to make much more sense to stress both "buff" and "handsome" than to stress some unimportant "be".

Meh, they say Icelandic has the largest number of rules for poetry in any language, so maybe I'm just being extra-nitpicky.
 
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Mystery Kid

Guest
Act said:
Oh, don't defend me. :p They're perfectly right. No excuses 'cept me being lazy xD

-laughs- Hey you know.. I'm one of those defender types XP
 
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