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The Men from S.I.L.P.H.

Well, here it is: my first ever sprite comic. Any tips on how to improve it late on would be very appreciated, and I don't have much else to say, except that I hope ya like it!

Episode 1: Meet the Men from S.I.L.P.H.!
New! Episode 2: What do they Look Like?

Read and review and all of that, please!
 
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May's brother

Now to the Maxtreme!
I think this comic is alright. there isn't really anything wrong with it. It would be good however to have more original sprites besides coga.
 

Matt Silver

Rest My Chemistry
FLYGON'S SANDSTORM said:
I like it! I don't know how you can fix it. You should make more.

And I do:
TUP is very confusing some people might not know whjich one is Coga. (I dot hough). Panels are outta whack and some grammer is a bit off.
 

Rikori

Lucas, gib meh soda.
Uhm, I got kinda confused.. o O;; Dont use Panel-under's. Use speechbubbles or colored text. =P
 
Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions, everyone! I'm working on the second comic now, and I'm trying out speech bubbles in it. ^^

May's brother said:
I think this comic is alright. there isn't really anything wrong with it. It would be good however to have more original sprites besides coga.

'Kay, thanks! I've already made one and I'm gonna be making more, but now I know that I should make more of them.

And for those who are waiting for the next comic, it should be up either today or tomorrow; I also have to work on something else.
 
Well, the next comic is up; to anyone who was waiting, sorry it took so long. Anyway...

Episode 2: What do they Look Like?
 

Blivsey

DATA_ERROR
This is, no question, noob fodder. I was just in the mood to crit, anyway, so let's do this! *flames shoot up around myself*

Plot: Wow, a trainer fic. That's so origional. No, wait, this kid works for some random organization with unknown intentions. And he's going up a team with a name acronymed as "bad." Yippee. [/sarcasm] This isn't going to take you ver far, kid. I've seen this sort of feces absolutely everywhere. 2/10
Characters: Totally undefined as of yet, and thanks to your lousy texting we don't even know who is whom. Only the one with the unorigional name ("supernerd") is defined, and he's purposelessly, unendingly annoying. Good going, dude. 1/10
Sprites: Most of the character sprites are ripped, but the ones that aren't are meh-ish. You didn't try and add expressions to an 8-pixel-wide head, though, which I commend for common sense. 5/10
Grammar: Do you even know proper English? If so, please display it. The grammar in here is so lacking that it's not even funny. At least you spelled some words correctly and didn't use leet/chatspeak. 3/10
Text: Satan, trying to read the first comic was torcher. NEVER use text under, over or to the side of panels, much less in random combinations like you did before.In the second comic, a simple ripped text bubble with a line doesn't cut it. Oh, and you can connect speech bubbles said by the same person by balloon tails to make it easier. The text itself is horrible. It feels like a third-grader wrote it. 1/10
Backgrounds: All ripped, so they're not terrible. But here's a hint: most secret organizations aren't in the middle of a city, in the only skyscraper there. It's not secret, so what would make them such a secret organization? No sense, and all caused by poor background choice. The backgrounds themselves, though, are okay. You just chose the wrong ones to use. 3/10
Special effects: Just one so far, and I could do something like that in about five seconds. Using paint. Failed, failed, failed. 1/10
Humor: The only good joke so far is stolen from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Get better jokes, and (better yet) get origional jokes. I know that it may be beyond your mortal comprehension, but if it is, I suggest that you need a new line of work. 2/10 (got a point added on because I feel sorry for you and I like Monty Python)
Author: You yourself are pretending to be a good little boy, but you ignored every post but the nicest one you could see. You've got to pay attention to everyone's suggestions and/or crit, even if they don't like your comic. They're only trying to help, and you're giving them a total cold shoulder just because they don't praise every comic in eyesight. 1/10
Overall: This comic is, no avoiding it, absolutely terrible. You have plotholes, lousy origionality, and your spriting skills are miniscule. It's not the worst, but certainly not the best.
Overall score(not average): 2.5/10
 
M

Magical Trevor

Guest
alright you added speech bubbles. Not to hard ws it. I'm starting to really injoy this comic.
 
Oblivion0807 said:
This is, no question, noob fodder. I was just in the mood to crit, anyway, so let's do this! *flames shoot up around myself*

Plot: Wow, a trainer fic. That's so origional. No, wait, this kid works for some random organization with unknown intentions. And he's going up a team with a name acronymed as "bad." Yippee. [/sarcasm] This isn't going to take you ver far, kid. I've seen this sort of feces absolutely everywhere. 2/10

First of all, B.A.D. is supposed to a parody of any decent name for a bad team, okay? If you don’t like that, then I'm sure that you'll never like my comic. And fine, it’s not very original, but there’s a problem with your logic; you’re using it with a comic made to be illogical, as many comics are. Coga had recently been promoted in the first comic and already knew who he was working for, except that now he's allowed to actually go up against B.A.D. Agents.

Characters: Totally undefined as of yet, and thanks to your lousy texting we don't even know who is whom. Only the one with the unorigional name ("supernerd") is defined, and he's purposelessly, unendingly annoying. Good going, dude. 1/10

Okay, so he’s annoying; if you hate him, you’ll despise the other characters that I’ve thought up.

Sprites: Most of the character sprites are ripped, but the ones that aren't are meh-ish. You didn't try and add expressions to an 8-pixel-wide head, though, which I commend for common sense. 5/10

Thanks, I guess… it’s not as if I’d rip everything from my own game.

Grammar: Do you even know proper English? If so, please display it. The grammar in here is so lacking that it's not even funny. At least you spelled some words correctly and didn't use leet/chatspeak. 3/10

All right, where are the bigger problems? Just tell me that and I’ll try to fix them. If you mean things like “ya” and “’em” than those aren't grammatical errors, and I’m not exactly sure what to call them. Besides, your own spelling could use some work.

Text: Satan, trying to read the first comic was torcher. NEVER use text under, over or to the side of panels, much less in random combinations like you did before.In the second comic, a simple ripped text bubble with a line doesn't cut it. Oh, and you can connect speech bubbles said by the same person by balloon tails to make it easier. The text itself is horrible. It feels like a third-grader wrote it. 1/10

All right, fine, I’ll try adding balloon tails. And I don’t totally understand you here; what do you mean by “the text”? The font or the grammar?

Backgrounds: All ripped, so they're not terrible. But here's a hint: most secret organizations aren't in the middle of a city, in the only skyscraper there. It's not secret, so what would make them such a secret organization? No sense, and all caused by poor background choice. The backgrounds themselves, though, are okay. You just chose the wrong ones to use. 3/10

Again, you’re using logic. Fine, I overlooked a lot of details that I should have been more careful about, I admit that. Still, logic isn’t exactly welcome in my comic.

Special effects: Just one so far, and I could do something like that in about five seconds. Using paint. Failed, failed, failed. 1/10

All right, so my “special effects” are extremely unimpressive, but I’m not focusing on them. Fine, I’ll try harder, but you’ll probably still despise them.

Humor: The only good joke so far is stolen from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Get better jokes, and (better yet) get origional jokes. I know that it may be beyond your mortal comprehension, but if it is, I suggest that you need a new line of work. 2/10 (got a point added on because I feel sorry for you and I like Monty Python)

Actually, I’ve never watched Monty Python. And don’t worry; humor is one of the things I’m focusing on, but considering what you think of my comic I’m pretty sure you won’t like what I have in mind for basically every single episode to come.

Author: You yourself are pretending to be a good little boy, but you ignored every post but the nicest one you could see. You've got to pay attention to everyone's suggestions and/or crit, even if they don't like your comic. They're only trying to help, and you're giving them a total cold shoulder just because they don't praise every comic in eyesight. 1/10

Now wait just a second there! That is not true, and I am paying attention to and appreciating my reviewers’ criticism! If you’re just pointing out my only quoting May’s Brother’s post in one of my posts a while ago, than that’s only because his post was the only one that commented on my overworld sprites so I decided to quote him; are you criticizing my for that?

Overall: This comic is, no avoiding it, absolutely terrible. You have plotholes, lousy origionality, and your spriting skills are miniscule. It's not the worst, but certainly not the best.
Overall score(not average): 2.5/10

Fine, I accept that you think I’ve created an extremely sorry excuse for a comic but I would appreciate it if you accepted that I am trying to improve; if you expect any comic made by a beginner to be flawless than don’t read any. Of course I understand that you’re giving me criticism and I’m usually glad to get it, but I also easily notice that you’re insulting me while you’re at it. In short, I need to improve in my comic and you need to improve in you’re replies.

And mutten641, thanks. And no, Oblivion, that right there was not simply replying to the nicest post I could see, that was replying to the other post I received which happened to be a positive one.

To anyone who's interested, I dunno when the next comic will be up considering the improvements I'm going to attempt to make; well, until then.
 

Blivsey

DATA_ERROR
Y'know, Supernerd, you could've just taken your crit like a man and used it to improve your comic. Instead, you threw a fit. That makes you look even worse in hindsight, and I suggest that you dry your tears and settle down. I'm going to defend my own crit, and then you're going to accept that your comic could use quite a bit of improvement and move on. I admit that I was a bit harsh, but you need to get a hold of yourself and fix what needs to be fixed, alright?

First of all, B.A.D. is supposed to a parody of any decent name for a bad team, okay? If you don’t like that, then I'm sure that you'll never like my comic. And fine, it’s not very original, but there’s a problem with your logic; you’re using it with a comic made to be illogical, as many comics are. Coga had recently been promoted in the first comic and already knew who he was working for, except that now he's allowed to actually go up against B.A.D. Agents.
Any "decent" name for a group of villains should be ORIGIONAL, not just an acronym of "bad." Second, you just admitted that your comic has an unorigional plot. So, add in a huge twist to make it interesting and you're fine! And I'm not talking about the "evil team," as that is also unorigional. Yes, your comic may be made to be illogical, but it still must have a plot that makes sense.
Okay, so he’s annoying; if you hate him, you’ll despise the other characters that I’ve thought up.
It's not that your character is annoying. It's that there's no point to it and you're not milking enough humor out of the fact that it's seriously peeving Coga.
Thanks, I guess… it’s not as if I’d rip everything from my own game.
He has manners now! Yes, he can be taught! *hands over scholarship*
All right, where are the bigger problems? Just tell me that and I’ll try to fix them. If you mean things like “ya” and “’em” than those aren't grammatical errors, and I’m not exactly sure what to call them. Besides, your own spelling could use some work.
Well, if you go over the comics and read them from an outsider's view, you'll start to spot them fast. You've only got two comics, really... And "ya" is a typo. The word is "Yeah." I fully dmit that my own spelling is not perfect, and I do tend to typo when I don't watch what I'm typing properly. That doesn't mean that I can't know what is and isn't proper grammar.
All right, fine, I’ll try adding balloon tails. And I don’t totally understand you here; what do you mean by “the text”? The font or the grammar?
I mean the actual wording, disregarding the grammar bit. It just became an issue that couldn't be placed anywhere else and needed adressing. And adding balloon tails? Excellent choice, my man!
Again, you’re using logic. Fine, I overlooked a lot of details that I should have been more careful about, I admit that. Still, logic isn’t exactly welcome in my comic.
Well, I admit that outside of the plot, and as long as it's part of a joke, I welcome illogic. In fact, the being Illogic is a good friend of mine. But at least if it's going to be illogical, make a point out of it, or a joke, or something. It helps immensely, trust me.
All right, so my “special effects” are extremely unimpressive, but I’m not focusing on them. Fine, I’ll try harder, but you’ll probably still despise them.
No! I hate stuff about this comic for a reason! If the special effects become fairly good, I won't complain. I don't just look at a comic, hate one thing and give it all a bad review. There's a method to the madness. And good for you, you admitted outright that there was a problem. Now that we've found the problem, we just need to fix it.
Actually, I’ve never watched Monty Python. And don’t worry; humor is one of the things I’m focusing on, but considering what you think of my comic I’m pretty sure you won’t like what I have in mind for basically every single episode to come.
Well, you've got a lot of room for better jokes, and it's okay to start out slow. You've never watched Monty Python before, so it's not stealing a joke. That bumps up that score a point. I didn't know that you haven't watched Python. All I'm saying is that the jokes could be better.
Now wait just a second there! That is not true, and I am paying attention to and appreciating my reviewers’ criticism! If you’re just pointing out my only quoting May’s Brother’s post in one of my posts a while ago, than that’s only because his post was the only one that commented on my overworld sprites so I decided to quote him; are you criticizing my for that?
If you're appreciating crit, why do I have to sit through your whining about mine? *sigh* Not only did you only quote May Brother's post, though, but you didn't say a word about the fact that there were four other posters there. You ignored them. That's not the style of a good author. A good author would take the time to reply to everyone, not just a select bunch. Oh, and while I'm on it, there's an "edit" button, you didn't need to double-post up there.
Fine, I accept that you think I’ve created an extremely sorry excuse for a comic but I would appreciate it if you accepted that I am trying to improve; if you expect any comic made by a beginner to be flawless than don’t read any. Of course I understand that you’re giving me criticism and I’m usually glad to get it, but I also easily notice that you’re insulting me while you’re at it. In short, I need to improve in my comic and you need to improve in you’re replies.
I don't expect a beginner's comic to be flawless, but- wait, beginner's? Above, you said "in my first comic," making you not a beginner. Or did you make the other comic up for this arguement? And I'm not insulting you, I'm criticising your attitude as an author, which is pretty bad at this point as you're throwing a fit over a bad review instead of accepting it and moving on. Oh, and its "your replies," not "you're replies."
And mutten641, thanks. And no, Oblivion, that right there was not simply replying to the nicest post I could see, that was replying to the other post I received which happened to be a positive one.
Did I use that as an example at any point? No, I didn't. So leave it alone.

Once again, I'm sorry that I was a bit rough on you, but you do have a lot to improve. If you can improve what I pointed out above, though, this comic can be turned around into a good one. Ta-ta, enjoy the muffins. *leaves a tray of muffins on the counter and walks out of thread*
 

XxGreivousxX

Oh teh noes!1112one
lol oblivion you never give any comic higher than a 5 in at least one of the categories. Great comic, dont just do lines for speech bubbles, try to make a pointy acute triangle to connect to where the speech is going
 
Oblivion0807 said:
Y'know, Supernerd, you could've just taken your crit like a man and used it to improve your comic. Instead, you threw a fit. That makes you look even worse in hindsight, and I suggest that you dry your tears and settle down. I'm going to defend my own crit, and then you're going to accept that your comic could use quite a bit of improvement and move on. I admit that I was a bit harsh, but you need to get a hold of yourself and fix what needs to be fixed, alright?

Fine, maybe I should have acted more mature and just made myself look like an idiot. Actually, make that probably.

Any "decent" name for a group of villains should be ORIGIONAL, not just an acronym of "bad." Second, you just admitted that your comic has an unorigional plot. So, add in a huge twist to make it interesting and you're fine! And I'm not talking about the "evil team," as that is also unorigional. Yes, your comic may be made to be illogical, but it still must have a plot that makes sense.

Yes, I did just admit that my comic has an unoriginal plot; without you ever mentioning that it's trainer jouney-ish I probably would never have noticed, but now I have and do plan to try and change it's direction while adding a few good, fat plot twists. You're right, okay?

It's not that your character is annoying. It's that there's no point to it and you're not milking enough humor out of the fact that it's seriously peeving Coga.

All right, thank you for mentioning that, I'll try to do better.

He has manners now! Yes, he can be taught! *hands over scholarship*

I get the message; I need to be nicer to my reviewers, but I do find that sarcasm a bit insulting so I'm politely asking you not to say something like that again.

Well, if you go over the comics and read them from an outsider's view, you'll start to spot them fast. You've only got two comics, really... And "ya" is a typo. The word is "Yeah." I fully dmit that my own spelling is not perfect, and I do tend to typo when I don't watch what I'm typing properly. That doesn't mean that I can't know what is and isn't proper grammar.

Actually, the word is "you"; just like "ye" can be used instead of it. And I wasn't saying that you do and don't know what proper grammar is, I was pointing out that neither of us have extremely good grammar. So maybe we should both put in a little bit of work in that department, big deal. Maybe I even should more than you.

I mean the actual wording, disregarding the grammar bit. It just became an issue that couldn't be placed anywhere else and needed adressing. And adding balloon tails? Excellent choice, my man!

Okay then, thanks for straightening that out. And yes, balloon tails it is.

Well, I admit that outside of the plot, and as long as it's part of a joke, I welcome illogic. In fact, the being Illogic is a good friend of mine. But at least if it's going to be illogical, make a point out of it, or a joke, or something. It helps immensely, trust me.

Okay, fine; I overlooked the area of S.I.L.P.H.'s location, and maybe I'll point that out in a comic with them changing its headquarters' location.

No! I hate stuff about this comic for a reason! If the special effects become fairly good, I won't complain. I don't just look at a comic, hate one thing and give it all a bad review. There's a method to the madness. And good for you, you admitted outright that there was a problem. Now that we've found the problem, we just need to fix it.

Well, the special effects may not become even fairly good for a while considering my experience in doing them. And of course you have reasons for your words, don't most of us? Right here I'm just gonna apoligize for something I probably said or did wrong, considering the record I'm gaining from this argument. -_-;

Well, you've got a lot of room for better jokes, and it's okay to start out slow. You've never watched Monty Python before, so it's not stealing a joke. That bumps up that score a point. I didn't know that you haven't watched Python. All I'm saying is that the jokes could be better.

Yes, they could be, and hopefully the next episode will be better. I've already started it and have it almost fully planned out.

If you're appreciating crit, why do I have to sit through your whining about mine? *sigh* Not only did you only quote May Brother's post, though, but you didn't say a word about the fact that there were four other posters there. You ignored them. That's not the style of a good author. A good author would take the time to reply to everyone, not just a select bunch. Oh, and while I'm on it, there's an "edit" button, you didn't need to double-post up there.

All right, you've made a very good point. I was looking more at the things that ticked me off than the advice you gave me. And I was lazy, but that still doesn't mean that I didn't care and was ignoring the other posters. Plus, I'm pretty sure that that kind of douple posting is legal, and if it isn't than I'm sorry I did it.

I don't expect a beginner's comic to be flawless, but- wait, beginner's? Above, you said "in my first comic," making you not a beginner. Or did you make the other comic up for this arguement? And I'm not insulting you, I'm criticising your attitude as an author, which is pretty bad at this point as you're throwing a fit over a bad review instead of accepting it and moving on. Oh, and its "your replies," not "you're replies."

I meant "first comic" as in first episode; I suppose I should have said that instead of "comic" so as not to confuse anyone, but I didn't make up another comic out of thin air just to use in our argument; I am a beginner at this. That's not an excuse for my comic's apparent poor quality, I'm just mentioning that this is my first ever comic on a computer. And fine, you weren't insulting me, and I apoligize for saying that you were.

Did I use that as an example at any point? No, I didn't. So leave it alone.

Okay, okay...

Once again, I'm sorry that I was a bit rough on you, but you do have a lot to improve. If you can improve what I pointed out above, though, this comic can be turned around into a good one. Ta-ta, enjoy the muffins. *leaves a tray of muffins on the counter and walks out of thread*

All right, maybe I am just an idiot who lost my temper and can't argue very well (and I'm not saying that you ever did call me one). I accept what you said about my comic and appreciate your suggestions on how to improve it and am most certainly going to try to do that in any way that I can, but I'm asking you to be a little nicer in your posts, trying harder to tell me how to improve my comic instead of just telling me how bad it is. Yes, I admit to the world that I'm lousy at arguing; I always have been, especially when trying to use logic.

Mainly, I think that our conversation has proved that nothing we do is ever gonna be perfect or even close to it. So, I'm going to end this with thanking you for telling me ways that I can improve and apoligizing for my temper, and that in some things I think that we'll just have to agree to disagree. So, bye. And to lighten the mood a bit, thanks also for the muffins. *starts munching on them*

EDIT: Thanks, XxGreivousxX; I'm gonna try them out thanks to Oblivion's advice with yours to encourage it ever more. ^^
 
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