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The Most Mistreated Ash's Companions

SerGoldenhandtheJust

Legends Arceus shall be a masterpiece
I think it also shows that they really DON'T need loads of big flashy competition arcs or whatever to make characters shine. Iris and Kiawe are kinda what I consider 'reliables', characters that don't get a lot of centre stage, but tend to get enjoyable episodes and supporting roles and while a lot of what they get are gradual tidbits in the grand scheme of things, it's still rather satisfying when it's all pieced together. Sure they did DO some tournaments, but not really ones orchestrated for their role specifically, they were just good at making themselves memorable.

Compare this to characters like May or Serena who DO get a lot of central focus designed for them individually, but many debate whether they made good use of it, and sometimes have the issue of slipping into the background whenever things aren't specifically about them. Goh is undergoing a similar status, even if he also has the benefit of chemistries (and not really having anyone else to compete with in his series anyway).
Agreed, although I wouldnt mind a character like Dawn who has flashy tournaments about her because I never really saw her fading into backgrounds when those episodes werent happening. She was very enjoyable enough on her own too and in filler episodes, a great chemistry with Ash and even in gym battles Ash had she could be of help. She to me was the perfect mix and part of the reason why shes my fav companion
 

Ragnarok4

# 1 Kairyu Fan
nothing is worse than DP Brock & Maybe Mallow
 

Pokegirl Fan~

Golden Queen
Serena is mistreated. Shes the only one without a special or a cameo episode.
Even the blue fish girl and the kitchen girl and the electric unpleasant looking kid got a cameo.
And also the way they neglected her for so long in year 1 of XY that even a gym leader that wasn't even apart of the main cast got a 5 episode arc when Serena (and Clemont) needed it the most.
 

Morax

Well-Known Member
Serena is mistreated. Shes the only one without a special or a cameo episode.
Even the blue fish girl and the kitchen girl and the electric unpleasant looking kid got a cameo.
Cameos are worthless. Coming back only to get your ass kicked? No thanks
 

SerGoldenhandtheJust

Legends Arceus shall be a masterpiece
Y'all hate on mallow too much. She did have her goal development episodes too, it's just her goal was such that not much focus could be given tbh
She still had an amazing personality imo, great charisma and chemistry with the cast. Especially Lana and Ash. I loved Ash and Mallow's interactions a lot, they were cute together
I love Mallow, she's a queen for me
As for Brock, I agree that AG Brock is worse than DP Brock. While DP Brock still was more in the background he had much more interesting Pokémon, more of a role thanks to uxie and actually showing more of his breeding role and it developing into his doctor goal
 

DatsRight

Well-Known Member
Mallow kinda felt dull at first, her personality started off energetic and willing to take action in things but similar to Misty she became more passive and in background, but at an even quicker pace. Nearly all her episodes were the most formulaic in a series that was more character driven and even in terms of its comedy and antics, Mallow did the least. They weren't great at making her cooking occupation compelling either, which is odd because they've had tons of chef COTD.

I feel like around the time she got Shaymin this changed and they started trying to give her more compelling limelight, even if it still kinda felt like just the baseline. I think if she'd been that level earlier she'd have been okay.
 

SerGoldenhandtheJust

Legends Arceus shall be a masterpiece
Mallow kinda felt dull at first, her personality started off energetic and willing to take action in things but similar to Misty she became more passive and in background, but at an even quicker pace. Nearly all her episodes were the most formulaic in a series that was more character driven and even in terms of its comedy and antics, Mallow did the least. They weren't great at making her cooking occupation compelling either, which is odd because they've had tons of chef COTD.

I feel like around the time she got Shaymin this changed and they started trying to give her more compelling limelight, even if it still kinda felt like just the baseline. I think if she'd been that level earlier she'd have been okay.
Heck in earlier episodes her personality shined through the most in my opinion. A good thing about SM was that even when a character didnt have his/her focus episode they werent just background fodder for most of the time, and so Mallow had lots of instances to interact with the cast still
 

DatsRight

Well-Known Member
Heck in earlier episodes her personality shined through the most in my opinion. A good thing about SM was that even when a character didnt have his/her focus episode they werent just background fodder for most of the time, and so Mallow had lots of instances to interact with the cast still
Earlier on she was more energetic and since Ash hadn't fully set into the group, she was a bit more proactive in deciding what everyone could do.

I think after Ash started to fit in as the leader of the group, that's when Mallow suffered, since Ash was also pretty colourful as a supporting character in SM. I remember a lot of fans being excited about her in the first few episodes of the series but then starting to notice problems when her first limelight episode was much later than everyone else's and didn't show as much promise.

It's a shame they didn't do a lot of girl trio episodes in SM like they did the boy trio. That did a lot of good for Kiawe and Sophocles since they had a good dynamic with themselves and Ash and could keep finding little ways to mesh their roles and development.
 

Dynamic_Fusion

HIKARI HYPE
For a Character to be mistreated, the Staff needs to care about that Character in the first place just like how you can't mistreat someone whom you don't like (because that is always the way you behave with them). So my answer would be BW Satoshi, Cilan, Iris & Koharu.
 

Epicocity

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Now Iris' a champion it's definitely Tracey.
I don't know if we can count Iris out for two reasons:
1) We never saw how she became Champion and Drayden's explanation basically amounts to "she felt harder".
2) She's not a Dragon Master yet, and while Axew evolved, it was all entirely offscreen.
 
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