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The Mystery Menace! (104)

Discussion in 'Pokémon - Orange League' started by Serebii, Oct 22, 2004.

  1. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    The Mystery Menace!

    Heading to the other end of Mandarin Island, Ash & Co. discover theres a monster in the sewer that is causing lots of problems in the town. When the Mayor wants to blow it up, Joy protests and asks Ash & Co. to help, can they?

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  2. Thriller

    Thriller Its almost time

    Only thing I like about this ep is that its Muks first and so far only Non-League usage
     
  3. Psychic Venusaur

    Psychic Venusaur Pokemon Master

    The mayor of that town was probably my least favorite character in the whole series. I didn't like this episode that much. The mayor sickens me. Did you see Bulbasaur being sent into the sewer all happy, and the mayor calling it weak? Bulbasaur's family is my favorite Pokemon family. Poor guy...
     
  4. this ep was so boring. i could fall a sleep if i watched it again this is just a filler. but i did like muke apprence. ;361;;361;;361;;361;;361;;361;
     
  5. MaskedManAbsolkid

    MaskedManAbsolkid Well-Known Member

    I liked this episode, because of the bulbasaur. But the mayor sickens me.
     
  6. Jesse GS the II

    Jesse GS the II I was frozen today!

    This was kind of an "eh" episode. But what I really didn't like was the final seconds of the ending, where you see Jessie, James, and Meowth still stuck in the sewer grate. At the "To Be Continued" screen - without any change in the video, mind you - we get treated to this little gem:

    JAMES: Achoo!
    (clank)
    JESSIE: The bars!
    MEOWTH: We're free!

    Apparently, 4Kids didn't want the audience thinking they'd be stuck down there forever or something. Of course, it's obvious it's a dub change because the bars don't even move.
     
  7. Sharpshooter

    Sharpshooter Battle Factory Champion

    .......And?

    So what if they slightly alter the final ending - it doesn't affect the storyline in any way.

    I'm not labelling you in anyway because you seem happy with the changes but I just don't know why some other people have such an obsession with being so critical on 4kids, yes they did suggest Brock's mother died when she didn't and do make some other manipulations, but really people should be able to understand the story from the images without any dubbing interpretations.

    Other than that the episode was a bit ordinary - it's the sort of episode you'd expect to see in Scooby Doo or something. The whole "Bad Guy Mayor" thing has been overplayed for years now.
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2004
  8. Jesse GS the II

    Jesse GS the II I was frozen today!

    Actually, I wasn't happy with the change - "this little gem" was sarcasm. It just bugs me that 4Kids seems to think their viewers will get all upset if everything isn't resolved at the end of the episode.
     
  9. Heracross

    Heracross Custom User Title

    Heh, yeah they really don't understand that kind of stuff. Same deal as the fourth movie I guess, they completely changed it around and ruined the whole story because they thought the American fans would want it that way, when in reality they couldn't be more wrong. This small change never really bothered me, but 4Kids attitude towards these kind of things does. Anyway, I actually really enjoyed this episode. I don't really know why, but it was just kinda cool with Ash & co. wandering around in the sewer and the whole 'mystery pokémon' and such, even though it was pretty obvious from the beginning what it was. The mayor was a real jerk, naturally, but that only made it more satisfying at the end when he got what he deserved. ^_^
     
  10. Sharpshooter

    Sharpshooter Battle Factory Champion


    I loved it when he was a kid - it's Gary in disguise! "Quit your Blubbering" Matt Mittler's voice acting's great.
     
  11. The Big Al

    The Big Al I just keeping Octo

    The Mayor is lucky he wasn't arrested for breaking international law. You can't hold foreign nationals (at least couldn't when this was made) without charge and you can't hire private armies to circumvent the police or military. However, this is a kids show.
     
  12. xsweet_peax

    xsweet_peax +kiss of an angel+

    this was a pretty good episode. I liked how Misty got a role near the ending. The only thing I didnt like is that Ash didnt show so much emotion or reaction when she was gone
     
  13. vulpix

    vulpix Guest

    to me this episode had alot of mystery,but i kinda figured the "Mystery Menace" would be a grass type.
     
  14. I liked seeing how much Ash wanted to save Bulbasaur for once instead of Pikachu. Finally a little change.
     
  15. I thought so too. Doesn't he have the same eyes or something?

    The Mayor statue reminds me of something... can't remember what though.
     
  16. wobbanut

    wobbanut Team Awesome

    Now that I'm older, I can really see the politics in this episode, with the mayor trying to cover up his past wrongdoings. I wonder if he was covering things up because he thought his bulbasaur was dead and somebody would find it down there? Of course I'm looking at this from an adult's view, and not a kid's show, but I can't help it, this episode is a little unusual in that way.

    I do like the part at the very end of the episode, though, when Team Rocket gets out of the sewers with just a sneeze. LOL :D
     
  17. blackgales

    blackgales Guest

  18. Aptenodytes

    Aptenodytes Well-Known Member

    i really enjoyed watching this episode. the mayor was hilarious at the end and im glad that they didnt blow up the bulbasaur
     
  19. JONNO.FRESH

    JONNO.FRESH Well-Known Member

    A pretty good epi. Nice to see a Bulbasaur that didnt belong to ash. The Mayor annoyed me.6/10
     
  20. Ashy Boy

    Ashy Boy Paul's #1 Rival

    I didn't like the mayor in this filler ep.
     

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