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"The New Pocket Monsters Series", starts April 2023

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Xuxuba

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The game characters will probably get their own "twilight wings" where they can (rightfully) be given justice.

It’s better then being reduced to fodder for Riko/Roy LMAO
It's a shame these series are so short though.
But i guess even if they were to adapt each route in the show, it'd be probably be rushed as hell, as they would have too much to juggle around when you include the world traveling aspect and the anime's original characters into the mixture.

That said, i reckon they could get rid of the Starfall Street storyline and the old Gym Badge quest, but Arven's would be a tough one, as it's the one where most of the region's lore is contained.

I also have no idea how this fanbase is gonna react to Nemona getting the Hau/Hop treatment (or possibly even getting entirely excluded like Bede was), since she is such a popular character. Not that this ever stopped the writers lol
 
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Konja7

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Pokémon is a kodomo, not a shonen. So its target audience was meant to be kids in general, not just boys.

That isn't how it works. It's true that Kodomo is mainly directed to kids, but an anime being a Kodomo doesn't prevent an anime to be directed to a specific gender.

For example: Precure is a Kodomo, but it's clearly directed to a female audiencd.
 

Xuxuba

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That isn't how it works. It's true that Kodomo is mainly directed to kids, but this doesn't prevent an anime to be directed to a specific gender.

For example: Precure is a Kodomo, but it's clearly directed to a female audiencd.
I'd call it a mahou shoujo aimed towards younger girls, tho i can't say i know much about it since i never really had interest in the series.
 

nuzamaki90

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I just noticed Riko’s blue, Roy is Red, and Friede is Yellow.

So who’s going to be Green? We might have one more OC on the way.
 

AARTX

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It's a shame these series are so short though.
But i guess even if they were to adapt each route in the show, it'd be probably rushed as hell, as they would have too much to juggle around when you include the world traveling aspect and the anime's original characters into the mixture.

That said, i reckon they could get rid of the Starfall Street storyline and the old Gym Badge quest, but Arven's would be a tough one, as it's the one where most of the region's lore is contained.

I also have no idea how this fanbase is gonna react to Nemona getting the Hau/Hop treatment (or possibly even getting excluded altogether like Bede), since she is such a popular character.
Eh if anyone’s showing up, it’ll probably be Rika
 

Konja7

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I'd call it a mahou shoujo aimed towards younger girls, tho i can't say i know much about it since i never really had interest in the series.
Mahou Shoujo is a gender/thematic, while Kodomo is a demographic. Precure being directed towards younger girls means is a Kodomo.

My point is the term Kodomo just means the age of the audience (not specify the gender of this audience), but this doesn't mean Kodomo anime aren't created with a gender for the main audiencd in mind.



PS: The reason why Pokemon makes eye candy for women is because the anime has a big enough female audience.
 
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Xuxuba

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Mahou Shoujo is a gender/thematic, while Kodomo is a demographic.

Precure being directed towards younger girls means is a Kodomo.

My point is Kodomo just means the age of the audience (not especific the gender of this audience). However, this doesn't mean Kodomo anime aren't created with a gender audience in mind.



PS: The reason why Pokemon makes eye candy for women is because the anime has a big enough female audience.
I do think however a piece of media can have more focus on the age of the audience than the gender itself, with the new female protagonist being a culmination of that.
 

Dephender

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Fun fact, "Kodomo" is this weird western fan-invented "demographic" that doesn't actually exist.

If someone tried arguing that those Barbie movies are Children's movies, and "Children's" is a demographic that encompasses both boys and girls so it's actually aimed at boys just as much as girls, I'm pretty sure Mattel would just laugh at them.
 

Konja7

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Fun fact, "Kodomo" is this weird western fan-invented "demographic" that doesn't actually exist.

If someone tried arguing that those Barbie movies are Children's movies, and "Children's" is a demographic that encompasses both boys and girls so it's actually aimed at boys just as much as girls, I'm pretty sure Mattel would just laugh at them.

Thanks for the clarification. That explain some things about the Kodomo issue.
 

Xuxuba

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Fun fact, "Kodomo" is this weird western fan-invented "demographic" that doesn't actually exist.

If someone tried arguing that those Barbie movies are Children's movies, and "Children's" is a demographic that encompasses both boys and girls so it's actually aimed at boys just as much as girls, I'm pretty sure Mattel would just laugh at them.
Western denominations aside, Pokémon is a far more gender-neutral concept than Barbie ever was, at least when it comes to the stereotypical traits considered by marketing. An animalistic creature with fantastical powers is something that you'd often see in both fiction aimed towards boys and girls. And when it comes to Pokémon you'd often see in advertisement both genders playing with their products.

Of course, with the new generation of parents growing up to be more inclusive, the trend is for such barriers to at least reduce.
 
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Dephender

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Western denominations aside, Pokémon is a far more gender-neutral concept than Barbie ever was, at least when it comes to the stereopical traits considered by marketing. An animalistic creature with fantastical powers is something that you'd often see in both fiction aimed towards boys and girls. And when it comes to Pokémon you'd often see in advertisement both genders playing with their products.

Of course, with the new generation of parents growing up to be more inclusive, the trend is for such barriers to at least reduce.

Yes, and the term "children's" has existed in English for ages as well. But that doesn't mean everything aimed at young children is "Children's" and thus can't possibly be aimed at a specific sex.

Japan has the words kodomomuke, jojimuke and danjimuke too.
 

mehmeh1

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Like the guy's design. Not sure how to feel about him potentially traveling along, but we'll see about that. Hopefully Cliveavel still gets focus
 

Xuxuba

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Yes, and the term "children's" has existed in English for ages as well. But that doesn't mean everything aimed at young children is "Children's" and thus can't possibly be aimed at a specific sex.

Japan has the words kodomomuke, jojimuke and danjimuke too.
Not saying it can't, i am stating that Pokémon specifically has tried to advertise itself as a more gender-neutral franchise than most franchises aimed towards boys would, with the anime often portraying activities that aren't necessarily seen as stereotypically male and having multiple female main characters (aside from Chloe) with far more importance than most regular male characters, hence why i wouldn't call it "aimed for boys" (be it in japanese, english or whatever), especially now that Liko is taking the forefront of the anime's advertisement instead of Ash.

That said, i do think the franchise as a whole was not always like that.
 

Konja7

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Western denominations aside, Pokémon is a far more gender-neutral concept than Barbie ever was, at least when it comes to the stereotypical traits considered by marketing. An animalistic creature with fantastical powers is something that you'd often see in both fiction aimed towards boys and girls. And when it comes to Pokémon you'd often see in advertisement both genders playing with their products.

Of course, with the new generation of parents growing up to be more inclusive, the trend is for such barriers to at least reduce.

Pokemon is definitely more gender neutral than Barbie, but I would say it is still more geared towards boys than girls.

I'm not sure Liko as a protagonist is necessarily to appeal a female audience. I suspect it's more related to her being Ash's replacement so they want a big change to avoid comparisons.
 
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Veedramon

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I just noticed Riko’s blue, Roy is Red, and Friede is Yellow.

So who’s going to be Green? We might have one more OC on the way.
Most likely Brassius, to keep the travelling gym leader tradition.

Plus they might want to give the ladies some extra eye candy alongside Friede
 
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