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The Next Best Thing

Discussion in '6th Gen' started by The DragonKnight, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. Saph~

    Saph~ Serebii Champion x.x

    Voting for JesusFreak. What a champion
  2. Alright, jesusfreak wins by one vote. Moving on to the next subject...


    Tyranitar! Deadline to submit a set is 31st at 11:59.
  3. ger9119

    ger9119 Well-Known Member

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk
    Hasty Nature/Jolly Nature
    - Substitute
    - Pursuit
    - Focus Punch
    - Ice Beam/Ice Punch

    SubPunch/Wall Breaker Tyranitar. This works best with an Encore Trapper like a Wobbufett. Encore a defog user and switch, either sub up or Pursuit on the switch. Ice Beam can be used to stop Lando-T, while you can always go Jolly with a full Physical Attacking set.
  4. [​IMG] Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Band
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 Atk / 220 HP / 36 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Crunch
    - Pursuit
    - Stone Edge
    - Thunder Punch

    This is something we don't see much anymore. CBTar is still a great Pokemon, even with the introduction of Fairies. It is capable of 2HKOing everything in the OU metagame that isn't a Fighting type or Mega Mawile. This set is hardly ever used anymore, but that alone doesn't make it worthy of being The Next Best Thing.

    The thing about this set is the last moveslot; Thunder Punch. Thunder Punch lures in Keldeo, the most common Tyranitar switch in, and OHKOs it 100% of the time. You'll only get one shot at this, because as soon as you use it they will probably not switch in Keldeo again, whether it being due to the fact you killed Keldeo or they didn't switch into Keldeo. Prediction and an understanding of the opposing team is required to pull this off successfully. Thunder Punch also hits Skarmory pretty hard, but the only reason it gets a spot on this moveset is because of the ability to take out one of the biggest and most common threats in the OU metagame. And even if your opponent doesn't have Keldeo, you got something that hits almost any team insanely hard.
  5. Minedreigon

    Minedreigon A monument to all your sins

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Taunt
    - Toxic
    - Stone Edge
    - Stealth Rock
    This is Stalltar. Stalltar's main niche is that Toxic+Sand damage racks up very quickly. this helps take out pokemon quicker than just normally toxic stalling. It also has Taunt to shut down stall mons wanting to status it, which is very useful. It's kinda like an anti stall pokemon for a stall team. Stone Edge is just STAB that hits things with, speeding up the procces. Because Skarmory is becoming more of a defogger for stall now and that Heatran is dying down, SR is becoming rarer on stall. So I figured a stalling SR user with taunt would help a lot of stall teams, seeing as it stops threats to stall like Gyarados by preventing it from setting up past +1.

    Using Pursuit over SE allows you to beat Espeon on a BP team then taunt the others, that's neat.
    Last edited: May 28, 2014
  6. Kitt Geekazaru

    Kitt Geekazaru Infernape Trainer

    I don't know how common this is, but it works.
    Tyranitar @ Shell Bell/Leftovers
    252 Def, 252 HP, 4 Atk
    -Roar/Dragon Tail
    -Thunder Wave
    -Stealth Rock/Iron Head
    Parashuffle Tyranitar. Works from behind a sub the entire time. It has some attacking options, in which case you would use Shell Bell, and for defensive options, Leftovers. If you run Dragon Tail, then Iron Head is there for those fairies.
  7. Clone™

    Clone™ Ded

    TTar is best used when specially defensive. js

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Sassy Nature
    Sand Stream
    252 HP / 68 Atk / 188 SpDef
    -Stealth Rock
    -Stone Edge
    -Ice Beam/Crunch

    Found this set, used it, and fell in love with it. This thing tanks hits like a pro, especially on the special side. It makes a great Rocks setter thanks to his great bulk, while still maintaining offensive pressure with the EdgeQuake combo. The last slot is for what you want to hit. Ice Beam hits dragons, Lando, and Gliscor for that sexy 4x damage. Oh, and this set hard walls Talonflame and checks unboosted Mega Pinsir. Thats always cool.

    Things it eats up: YZards Solar Beam, LO Latios's Draco Meteor, Greninjas Surf, [insert any neutral special attack here]
    Last edited: May 27, 2014
  8. Onyx Tanuki

    Onyx Tanuki Very very dramatical

    I was so tempted to go with an Assault Vest T-Tar because it's so good, but I'm pretty sure those are running rampant through OU tier at present. I dunno how common this set is, though... hopefully not very. :p

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers/Tyranitarite
    Sand Stream
    252 HP/Def, 252 Att, 4 HP/Def
    - Pursuit
    - Stealth Rock
    - Toxic/Thunder Wave
    - Stone Edge

    The point behind this set is to punish the opponent for switching out as much as you can. Stone Edge acts as T-Tar's primary STAB, and Stealth Rock sets up a hazard to harm the foe for switching. You can choose between Toxic or Thunder Wave for status to ensure the opponent has an incentive for switching, and Pursuit is to further punish them for doing so. The item this guy holds really depends on which you feel is more important: self-healing or better stats overall, and personally I'd go for the Mega-evolution, since Mega T-Tar does pretty much the exact same things as regular T-Tar could. For EVs, I'd probably go with Defense over HP, or some sort of balance between the two, since its SpDef is already going to be massive enough with Sand boosting it.

    There are three things off the top of my head that this set will have trouble with: Mega Absol, Conkeldurr, and Lucario. Mega Absol resists Pursuit and bounces back your Rocks and status effect, leaving you having to hope you can hit it with Stone Edge. Thankfully, even regular T-Tar should be able to handle a Play Rough and OHKO Mega Absol with Stone Edge so long as said Absol has no defensive EVs. Conkeldurr and Lucario, however, will pretty much force you to switch out; not only do they resist Stealth Rock and both your STABs, but Conkeldurr thrives off of being hit by Toxic thanks to its Guts ability, ensuring that if you run this set, you'll need a Conkeldurr counter. Furthermore, Lucario isn't hit by Sand damage and a special variant could likely come in when your sandstorm tapers off and crush you with an Aura Sphere. In fact just about any Fighting type would be difficult to handle, but those two in particular come to mind, so a strong Psychic, Flying, or Ghost type would be a good idea to carry to help handle them.
  9. that's a standard ttar clone :$

    Tyranitar @ Life Orb / Chople Berry
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 180 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Rock Polish
    - Stone Edge
    - Crunch / Earthquake
    - Earthquake / Ice Punch

    Sweeper Tyranitar for teams that can't run Mega Ttar. Regular Tyranitar is too slow to effectively run a Dragon Dance set, and once offensive teams are sufficiently weakened a +0 potentially-Orbed Tyranitar will suffice to clean up. Rock Polish is the crux of the set; after one Tyranitar can outspeed everything up to and including a Timid Mega Manectric. More Speed EVs can feasibly be run if you want to outspeed certain Scarfers. Stone Edge is the primary STAB, getting excellent coverage on many key threats in the metagame. Crunch is secondary STAB and hits things like Gengar and the Lati twins for an OHKO, though Earthquake can be run in its place if you want more coverage. The last slot is your main coverage option, EQ hitting Heatran/Mawile and Ice Punch hitting Garchomp/Landorus-T.

    This Tyranitar is best used as a late-game sweeper, taking advantage of teammates like Azumarill and Talonflame to weaken the Fighting-typed Pokemon that are major threats to this. Due to the lack of an Attack boosting move, teammates that can weaken bulky Waters and Fairies are also appreciated. Mega Venusaur works well for this.
  10. IrieFuse

    IrieFuse Unify To Thrive

    Tyranitar @ Weakness Policy
    Adamant Nature
    252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    -Rock Polish
    -Stone Edge

    This is a set I have been using for a while now and it works wonders against things that don't carry STAB fighting type moves. I tried both 252 EV's in def instead of attack but the investment didn't do much as it is still easily OHKO'd by STAB CC from mons like heracross and infernape. However it can easily take a mach punch from infernape and conkeldurr. I personally use this set alongside sticky web galvantula and magic bounce dual screen espeon. the sticky web allows rock polish to work much better with adamant nature as it allows tyranitar to outspeed some fast threats like greninja after rock polish + sticky web even with adamant nature. the dual screens help take a super effective hit much easier. espeon is also good at deflecting rotom-W will-o-wisp who is arguably this set's worst enemy because one will-o-wisp is the end of this set.
  11. Onyx Tanuki

    Onyx Tanuki Very very dramatical

    Mine is? I dunno a huge amount about OU's metagame, since I mostly stick to RU, so if it is, I'll be happy to delete mine and figure a different one out.
  12. is your name cloneblazer12?

    Your set I think is pretty original, so I have a feeling it'll be cleared. IDK though.
  13. I'm pretty sure he just thought you were calling his set a clone of a standard Tyranitar set, not that you were using shorthand for another user's name.

    Not gonna lie, I made the same mistake, lol.
  14. Commas are important.

    But yeah, every set is fine except for Cloneblazer's. Feel free to submit a new set, Clone.
  15. Clone™

    Clone™ Ded

    >Standard Set
    >Has never faced that set in over 200 XY OU battles


    Because apparently I'm out of the loop or something...

    Tyranitar @ Chople Berry
    Sand Stream
    Jolly Nature
    4 HP 252 Atk 252 Spe
    -Dragon Dance
    -Stone edge
    -Ice Punch

    Most people say that Normal TTar with Dragon dance sucks. Not really. He may be slower and have less bulk than his mega, but he still poses a big threat. Just come in on anything that can't hurt him, then Dragon Dance on the switch. Chople Berry is there to eat up a fighting attack that would normally KO, and proceed to demolish that Pokémon with the correct move. Dragon Dance is self explanatory while Srone Edge is the most important STAB. Ice Punch hits dragons and Lando/Gliscor for super effective damage. The last move is between Earthquake and Crunch. Crunch is STAB that hits the Latis, but earthquake can be used to hit Aegislash without worrying about Kings Shield, as well as other steels and Rock types (Mainly Terrakion)

    ... I swear if this isn't allowed I'm quitting comp forever. I've only seen terrible players at the bottom of the ladder use this, and even then they don't use this set.
  16. Onyx Tanuki

    Onyx Tanuki Very very dramatical

    Thanks :p Pretty much what Jesusfreak said, I thought you meant my set was a clone of a common T-Tar set.

    Remember, commas are the difference between inviting the strippers, George Bush, and Stalin to your party versus inviting the strippers George Bush and Stalin to your party. ;D
  17. Like half the teams higher up on the ladder are sand offense teams that use that exact set, but maybe with Focus Sash or Smooth Rock over Leftovers. Considering that sand offense is one of the better playstyles right now, I'm surprised that you haven't seen at least one lead Ttar.

    I'm actually kind of a grammar Nazi in real life, so that was a bit of a fail moment for me :$
  18. MetalSonic

    MetalSonic Orderan' Defendan'

    Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 216 HP / 72 SAtk / 176 SDef / 44 Spd
    Calm Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Fire Blast
    - Ice Beam
    - Roar

    This is kinduva reaaaly old set, but what it does is it takes sp.def hits like a champ, sets up rocks and with its special coverage, surprises the usual things you'd want to surprise like Scizor and Landorus-T with Fire Blast and Ice Beam yknow, respectively. The cool part about this is that some of the time Tyranitar might be set up fodder for the likes of Azumarill or something so what you do is simply Roar them out if you REALLY feel a BD or whatever's comin at you. Also good for a surprise Roar that'd in general, I mean, alongside Rocks, shuffle the opposition around a bit and could net you that bit of damage you need.

    im packin those commas btw
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2014
  19. Alright everyone, time to vote for which Tyranitar set you think is the best / most innovative. The options are:

    ger9119's SubPunch Set
    The DragonKnight's CB Thunder Punch Set
    Minedreigon's Taunt and Toxic Set
    King Infernape the III's Para Shuffler Set
    Oynx Tanuki's Status Set
    The Imposter's Rock Polish Set
    Greninja VI's Rock Polish + Weakness Policy Set
    Cloneblazer12's Chople Dragon Dance Set
    MetalSonic's Special Attacking Hazard Shuffler Set

    Also, you guys can just say whose set you're voting for, you don't have to type out all the things I did : p

    Voting ends on the 3rd
  20. Onyx Tanuki

    Onyx Tanuki Very very dramatical

    I'm gonna go with Greninja's Weakness Policy set.

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