First, I would like to say, BigLutz, that "daily joe biden quotes" are just a little bit... well the word escapes me but it seems unnecessary. I'm pretty sure that we're all well aware that Biden has a tendency to stick his foot in his mouth. It's really just kicking a dead horse and asking for people to lambaste you.
It's just a nice reminder of how stupid and how horrible your Vice President choice is. And seeing how the Vice President choice is hailed as the first big decision of a President...
Anyways, to the rest of you, I know that McCain has, in the past, been very liberal minded. I think the problem is that during his campaign, he has consistently tried to prove to America that he is a conservative person (you know, because a lot of Republicans are reluctant to support a lot of his beliefs)... which really just seems like BS because he hasn't been for so long. Still, right now, the image he is putting out into the public is that he is a conservative and that he is like Bush. Even if he isn't, which I know he historically has not been, it's hard to accept that view right now if only because he is doing very little to refute it. You may not agree that he's giving off this image, but at the very least, you have to admit that he is trying to act more conservative then what he has been in the past.
He may have acted more conservative than the past, but then again, so is Obama and you also cannot deny that. And even still on major issues like Global Warming and Guitmo, McCain is still very opposed to the old GOP plan.
Also, it's interesting that you bring up the fact that he has not been voting much during his campaign. You're absolutely right, and I don't blame him for shifting focus, but I feel that it may not have been the wisest decision after he had stated something along the lines of him being willing to lose the presidency if it meant losing the US... that's not exact, and a little out of context, but he was clearly indicating that he felt it was very important to continue to vote, regardless of his campaign.
You are a little confused, he said he would rather lose a Campaign than lose a War. Talking about how he would rather win in Iraq than lose. And mind you none of them, neither Obama nor McCain have been voting much in the Senate. And why should they? It's a "Do Nothing" Senate in the stricktest sense, they have done nearly nothing, except dub names to post offices.
With this in mind, it would, or rather should, be proper to state that his voting for this year has been typical of his true beliefs. We should all understand the fallacies in this reasoning, but it's politics, they tend not to really matter when lying gets involved. It would be incredibly easy to just add a little spin to this, as so many of you are fond of, and have a convincing argument that McCain is either a Bushite or an oh-so-dreaded "flip-flopper."
Well mind you this year has been incredibly lack luster in the Senate, combine that with being on the campiagn trail, the only thing to vote for is things that could pass the White House.
Now I ask, what about last year? Or have you guys forgotten about McCain/Kennedy?
Or how about the year before that? Or have you forgotten about the Gang of 12?
Or how about the year before that? Or have you forgotten about the McCain Torture Amendment?
Or how about the year before that? When he was about to be the Vice President Nominee for the Democrats?
I think, that if McCain were to want to put out an image that opposed this Bush-like accusation, he should have been more actively opposing it.
So where were you during McCain/Kennedy just 365 days or so ago?
His current views, falsified as they may be, are clearly in line with typical current Bush politics.
Global Warming, Guitmo, Spending, Torture. All of these things he differs with Bush with. How about you actually look around and stop reciting Liberal talking points? You are better than that.
Edit: And you know where they differ the most in? RUSSIA. Bush thought he could hold a friendship with Russia by sucking up, we saw how well that worked...
If anything Obama and Bush agree on Russia, which is the most defining Foreign Policy issue right now.
OBUSH!
In terms of the election, I don't think it's fair to be saying what he has done in the past in terms of viewpoints, that is, unless you wish to admit he is a "flip-flopper."
Except he has maintained his core beliefs, as the ones I named. You want to look at a flip flopper, look at Obama. Where apparently core beliefs like Campiagn Fiance Reform can be bought by the highest bidder.
I'm not saying I believe in any of this stuff, I'm just saying that the argument exists and I think the way you're trying to debate his Bushiness is probably a poor tactic.
See the problem is the argument doesnt exist, it is just the stupidity of the spin, and hoping that the American Public is dumb enough to forget history.
Also, I think criticisms of a congress that has conflicting majority to the executive, and really vise versa to some extent (though not enough to justify saying Bush was a good president), are not really fair, if only because we all know that it is significantly harder to get things done in this situation.
Yeah god forbid they negotiate with the President, and work with him to pass legislation.
BTW: did anybody else hear that Palin was saying we need more nuclear, wind and coal power plants? I'm a little bit confused by this... I mean, I thought it was generally agreed upon that these were not the best sources of energy. I mean, especially coal, what's up with that? Even if she meant clean burning coal, it's still terribly polluting and generally inefficient... she just lost a lot more points in my book...
America is the Saudi Arabia of Coal, we also power most of our country on coal. If you want to look at one of the quickest ways to energy independence, it is through coal. Second there are many countries out there ( France ) that run safely on Nuclear Power. Thinking that it isn't a best source of energy is just incredibly uninformed.
Now I can understand you and other Obama fans are scared, I know you are terrified, McCain risked everything on Palin and tonight she proved why Democrats in Alaska said "Cross her at your own peril."
Bring on Joe Biden...
And while Sarah may have lost your vote, she did pick up a couple million tonight. I call that a fair trade.