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The Pokemon Questions Thread Again!

Discussion in 'General Pokémon Discussion' started by Profesco, Aug 7, 2010.



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  1. Lord Fighting

    Lord Fighting Bank Ball Collector

    Thanks so much for your reply
  2. CMButch

    CMButch Kanto is love. Kanto is life.

    Hello, I've got one question.
    I decided to check about certain monsters that kinda look like Pokemon but are not Pokemon who would qualify as Pokemon but are made by Game Freak and are in Pokemon games. So, I am not talking about fakemon, but actual monsters created by GF but are not classified as Pokemon( I am excluding anime and manga creatures and excluding creatures that are not in final games).So, only core/side/spin-off etc Pokemon-related games and I found around 14-15 characters who could easily be Pokemon;
    1. F-00( both forms)
    4.Black /White Door
    8.Old Statue
    ( all these can look like UBs; also maybe Brycen's battleship)
    Then we have Alien girl( her and all above are PokeStar Studios related and they TBH kinda look like Pokemon)
    And final three; Bittercold,Dark Rust and Dark Matter( they have their cries and IIRC one of them can change into certain type, but they're not Pokemon).

    So my question is; are there any more creatures than these who are made by GF( or other company approved by GF) and put in final games( side/core/spin-off) that are not Pokemon but actually look like Pokemon and can be Pokemon by the looks/traits/cries/types?( and btw they must be unique/new designs and not previous Pokemon like Shadow Lugia,since it's a Lugia Gen 2 Pokemon). ( I just found about Void Shadows which can be Ghost-like Pokemon).Thanks in advance.
    Last edited: May 8, 2018
  3. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    How are shiny odds affected by the different levels of rarity? Does it also affect legendaries/Ultra Beasts the same that it affects normal Pokemon?
  4. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

    Legendaries and Ultra Beasts just have regular shiny odds regardless of wormhole rarity. Wormhole rarity and distance only affects which Ultra Beasts show up and the odds of a legendary appearing in the first place.

    For regular pokémon, the rule of thumb is: Larger distance is more likely shiny, and higher wormhole rarity is more likely shiny. In detail, for when you don't roll a legendary (or have already caught all legendaries in said wormhole colour):

    Regular wormhole, no rings: 1% shiny rate regardless of distance
    One ring wormhole: distance/500 in %, rounded down. Caps at 5000 lightyears at 10%.
    Two ring wormhole: 2*floor(distance/500) - 1 in %. Caps at 5000 lightyears at 19%.
    Flower pattern/legendary wormhole: 4*floor(distance/500) - 4 in %. Caps at 5000 lightyears at 36% shiny rate.

    In other words:

    One ring wormhole:
    0-999 lightyears: Wormhole does not show up at these distances
    1000-1499 lightyears: 2%
    1500-1999 lightyears: 3%
    2000-2499 lightyears: 4%
    2500-2999 lightyears: 5%
    3000-3499 lightyears: 6%
    3500-3999 lightyears: 7%
    4000-4499 lighyears: 8%
    4500-4999 lightyears: 9%
    5000+ lightyears: 10%

    Two ring wormhole:
    0-999 lightyears: Wormhole does not show up at these distances
    1000-1499 lightyears: 3%
    1500-1999 lightyears: 5%
    2000-2499 lightyears: 7%
    2500-2999 lightyears: 9%
    3000-3499 lightyears: 11%
    3500-3999 lightyears: 13%
    4000-4499 lighyears: 15%
    4500-4999 lightyears: 17%
    5000+ lightyears: 19%

    Flower-pattern wormhole:
    0-2499 lightyears: Wormhole does not show up at these distances.
    2500-2999 lightyears: 16%
    3000-3499 lightyears: 20%
    3500-3999 lightyears: 24%
    4000-4499 lighyears: 28%
    4500-4999 lightyears: 32%
    5000+ lightyears: 36%
    Last edited: May 8, 2018
  5. 9dragonbreed

    9dragonbreed Arukate Énigme

    Has anyone else watched Pokemon : Volcanion and the Mechanical Marvel and thought forcing Pokemon to mega evolve would be a great 3rd game follow up to Colosseum and Gale of Darkness?
    WishIhadaManafi5 likes this.
  6. Auraninja

    Auraninja I'm ready to Smash

    Gen VI and beyond, Spiritomb and Sableye are weak to Fairy. Although minor, if you manage to use Odor Sleuth or Foresight, they will become weak to Fighting.
  7. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    How much does Roto Catch boost the catch rate? If I throw a Beast Ball at an Ultra Beast at the start of the battle, what's the chance of it catching it for each UB? And if I throw it when they're at full health while Roto Catch is in effect, what are the chances then?
  8. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    A Roto Catch boost is equivalent to a Lv 3 Capture Power in the Gen 6 games, which they boost catch rate of a Pokémon with a multiplier of x2.5.
  9. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    What is the chance of catching each Ultra Beast on the first go with the Beast Ball?
  10. Nutter t.KK

    Nutter t.KK can Mega Evolve!

    A quick Calculation, throws out value just below 40% with no Rotom boosts, or 70% chance with the rotom boost active. This is assuming that you're in using USUM for any beast or catching Nihilego in SM. The Chance rate will be lower in for other Ultra Beasts in SM, as the Catch rate is lower.
  11. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    In the chances of catching the following Ultra Beasts in one Beast Ball are:

    Nihilego - 39.951% in both SM and USUM

    Buzzwole - 25.696% in SM, 39.951% in USUM

    Pheromosa - 100% in SM, 39.951% in USUM

    Xurkitree - 29.474% in SM, 39.951% in USUM

    Celesteela - 25.696% in SM, 39.951% in USUM

    Kartana - 100% in SM, 39.951% in USUM

    Guzzlord - 17.52% in SM, 39.951% in USUM

    Stakataka - 29.474%

    Blacephalon - 29.474%

    Poipole and Naganadel are not applicable because they cannot be encountered in-game and can only be obtained as gift/event Pokémon.
  12. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    How far do I have to go in the Ultra Wormhole to find a white flower pattern? I am hoping to find Guzzlord to shiny hunt. And once I do, what are the chances of finding a white flower pattern?
  13. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    I don't think there's really a set minimum distance you have to travel to have a white wormhole appear. Not too sure about the chances of a white wormhole appearing, but Guzzlord is usually accessed through a type four flowery white wormhole, which do not appear until you reach 2500 light years, which from there, these wormholes have a 1% chance of appearing. As you travel further, these are the following chance those flowery wormholes appear as soon as you reach the following distances:

    3000 light years - 2%

    3500 light years - 3%

    4000 light years - 4%

    4500 light years - 5%
  14. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

    2500 LY before flower patterns appear. Not sure what the odds of white wormholes are compared to the others, I think it's about 23% red, 23% blue, 23% yellow, 23% green, 8% white from personal experience, regardless of distance. Wormhole type is rolles separately from wormhole colour, the two don't influence each other as far as I know. Flower pattern wormhole rises to 5% at I think 4500 LY, so beyond there it's about 5% times 8% or 0.4% for flower pattern white wormhole, and it's lower earlier on.
  15. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    Can I run from UBs, find them again and shiny hunt? Or do I have to knock them out and approach them again for it?
  16. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    I don't think you can efficiently reset for Ultra Beasts by running away from them and knocking them out either. The best way is to save right before you battle the Ultra Beasts and reset if it is not shiny.
  17. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    By that I mean if I can run or knock them out, go on the Ultra Wormhole trip, and locate them again so I don't have to bother with the cutscene
  18. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    Well if you accidentally KO or run away from Ultra Beasts you can go back to the Altar of the Sunne/Moone and go back to Ultra Warp Ride and eventually find the Ultra Beast again because wormhole Ultra Beasts can be reencountered indefinitely.
  19. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    Can I get catch more than one of each UB in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon? By travelling back to the same white hole again?
    Last edited: May 16, 2018
  20. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    Yeah you can by going through white wormholes but some Ultra Beasts are more common in some types of wormholes depending on the rings that surround it. You can go to the same place where you have caught an Ultra Beast and catch the same Ultra Beast again.

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