Why did this thread get locked in between? That was weird
Okay, so even IF we pretend that this version of Cynthia has nothing to do with one of her most iconic Pokémon for some reason, that still doesn't explain why she doesn't know that Lucario, a Pokémon from her native region, would be less than ideal for a Togekiss whose main gimmick is using Serene Grace flinch tactics. Hell, she even knows he has a Lucario!
This is not forcing 'game logic', this is basic logic.
Dude...seriously, if your only defense here is saying 'she was surprised by a Pokémon she'd already seen in action, and that's why she sent her ace rather than using the perfect counter that was waiting in the wings', then I don't even know what to say.
Good, then we have nothing more to say on this topic.
...just to let you guys know, I only have a problem with Ash's Lucario in particular. Lucario is, in fact, one of my all-time favorite Pokémon.
Ah yes Cynthia is the champion of a region so she should know all the abilities and everything about all of the mons in that region...be serious with me rn.
It's not like it was any of Cynthia 's high IQ plan to use flinching against Lucario anyway, just something she tried. It's not like she SPECIFICALLY saved Togekiss for Lucario either.
The insistence she HAD to use Togekiss to be a viable strat because you have the power of hindsight and she doesn't is so weird because what she did all makes sense. Making use of Milotic, taking out Garchomp.
What do you even mean "she was surprised by a mon she saw in action". What Sirfetchd did with Milotic isn't comparable to what it accomplished with Garchomp. It didn't mean whatsoever that it managing to take out a weakened Milotic means it can damage Garchomp to an extent. Cynthia didn't expect that, which is OKAY for her to do. She isn't a computer robot bruh, the anime shows her surprised for a reason. Why are you acting that she was supposed to have the hindsight of knowing Sirfetchd can bring Garchomp to its knees when NONE of us expected it while watching either. Just look at all the duck praises and shock at the start of this thread. Be serious with me
A Lucario Mirror would have been more interesting than Triple Jobnite!
But speaking seriously for a bit, I don't particularly care that anime Cynthia does not have a Lucario. It's an odd choice but you can see the meta reasoning as to why not. My posts are arguing back against the argument that Lucario is not a iconic Pokemon of hers of which it is definitively is.
If you ask me I'm more annoyed about no Kommo-o during the battle with Ash.
Well, congratulations of getting under the rock you've seemingly been living in since DP came out, I guess.
And yes, it is. What does that have to do with anything? Roserade is definitively one of the iconic Cynthia team™ Pokemon alongside Milotic.
So Masters ">D-Doesn't count" because Gacha bad. Gotcha.
Despite Masters taking direct inspiration from the games. Continuing plotlines from the games. Expanding on characters in ways the games never did and the anime would never dare do so. Etc.
By the way, we're gonna call PM bad too then, right? Since it's inspired by GO and taking so much from it and all. Fair's fair after all.
So because Masters does its own things sometimes it magically does not make all the other things that are very obviously rooted on the original source invalid? Okay dude.
The anime is literally based of the games. The anime does not magically pop into existence on its own. How can you seriously be saying that anime doing the things the games does is "forcing them"?
People complained TONS about Iris not using Hydreigon and using jobnite instead.
And if we're taking into account one of those arcade games it seems Iris does indeed have a Hydreigon.
And funny, Champion Iris in Masters Sync Pair Pokemon is Hydreigon. Gee, I wonder why?
Just because the anime does not have Iris using a Hydreigon does not magically means Hydreigon is not one of Iris, the character as a whole, iconic Pokemon. The anime is the ODD one here, the anime is the exception, not the rule.
Congratulations on writing the most reactionary, hilarious and contradictory post yet. I don't even know where to begin with this
"Living under a rock since DP" Do you even know me lmao?
This is straight up history revisionism that Lucario was more iconic than Cynthia 's other mons. Yes Cynthia's whole team was iconic, but the major standouts and main 2 POKEMON associated with her always were Garchomp and Spiritomb only. Rest were as iconic as her team but not anything that stood out specifically as HER. Lucario just has NEVER been that for Cynthia and you can't Gaslight me into believing that lmao. The fact you guys are bringing that up now while trying to bring up nitpicks just proves it even more. Shits hilarious
Wdym by that Pokemon Masters comment. Gatcha = bad? Wtf?
I don't think it's wrong for me to say most of their SS Sync pairs are shilling for money, it's just facts. And it's coming from someone who loves Pokemon Masters EX. It's just how the game is. Yes the game provides its own lore consistent with the games and expands on it, but the expansion is its own thing. Cynthia getting a SS with Lucario doesn't mean Lucario was always iconic to Cynthia lmao.
Lucario was always seen as Riley first and foremost or Sir Aaron. Heck Ash was more iconic with Lucario before he got it then Cynthia ever was. It just never was that linked to her like you guys are pretending to push forward a false comparisons between the games and anime to claim Cynthia should be a Lucario master or whatnot
"Anime is the exception not the rule"
You are SO close to getting the point here. Hydreigon not being linked to Iris in the anime is an anomaly, but it happens. When we've never seen Cynthia similarly with Lucario, why are we acting it can't be another anime thing, even if i was to buy your claim Lucario is apparently very important to Cynthia in game or something. Geez. Argue with the anime's logic don't bring up false arguments and tangents to dogpile and nitpick more on a battle you don't like for whatever reason