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The Semifinals IV: Impact (1214)
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AARTX
Dead inside…
And it isn’t even in it’s most popular form LMAO
Giving Lucario energy so Ash could win but that felt like stealing lmfao
AARTX
Dead inside…
Technically that makes it a 2v2 at that point, which overall makes it a 6v7 match
Sham
Horizons is THAT show.
I’m sorry there isn’t enough discussion that tcreepy voice Togekiss got too many opportunities to shine and Garchomp went down after 2 or 3 minutes.
Why was that creepy mon shilled so much? Volo? That evil man strikes again because Togekiss voice creeped me the heck out
Why was that creepy mon shilled so much? Volo? That evil man strikes again because Togekiss voice creeped me the heck out
That Togekiss vs M-Lucario felt pretty stretched out.. although I can understand the reasoning behind it. They really wanted to sell the idea that D-Togekiss was a huge menace and shouldn't be underestimated at all. Unfortunately, not all will buy this reasoning and will still think Mega Garchomp would have made more of a dent vs M-Lucario.
Once again shout out to mr. duck, that victory over mr. shark wouldn't have been possible without the damage mr. duck did. o7
Once again shout out to mr. duck, that victory over mr. shark wouldn't have been possible without the damage mr. duck did. o7
Sham
Horizons is THAT show.
Stat boost
I disagree, that would have been true if Mega Lucario had beaten Mega Garchomp, I think Lucario is still below Greninja, especially since he needed the frog energy to win
I'm not cricket so I don't hate Lucario by the way, but let's remember that Lucario needed the support of Greninja to defeat Togekiss, and Sirfercth to defeat Base Garchomp
Sham
Horizons is THAT show.
I also hated that fake tension thing because in any other situation that would have been a double knockout and a tie but they allowed Lucario to get back up. It seemed fake tensionish
Don’t get me wrong base Garchomp losing to Mega Lucario made my weekend but that was stupid
Don’t get me wrong base Garchomp losing to Mega Lucario made my weekend but that was stupid
janejane6178
Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
Lucario is overrated and over powered at this point
Eevee903
You are awesome!
Tell that to Sirfetch’d vs Garchomp
Also what was the point of Lucario Mega Evolving twice: BEFORE and AFTER the opening?
SerGoldenhandtheJust
Deluded Dreamer
Obviously all battles have their own strengths, it boils down to who prefers what
For me, the fact its written well with good strats and a whole well rounded battle with good non ace battles is very important as well, as a lot of Sawyer and Alains novelty comes from the climax
Ill have to rewatch to see which I prefer more but each battle is top tier worthy
Also those external factors count imo and matter in the story, so yeah for me it doesnt make it overrated
TheNewGuy
Well-Known Member
Personally I feel it's not so much that "Ash is stronger than Cynthia" now than "Ash can beat Cynthia" now. He beat her this match, but who knows, maybe next time in a match she'd beat him if she mega evolved Garchomp. Kind-of like a back-and-forth on who can win this time.
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Sham
Horizons is THAT show.
They did that with every battle. They showed part of the beginning and then continue you on after the opening from that scene
Dumb argument both ways.
1) There is no way to say Mega Garchomp is > Mega Lucario ( I would argue Mega Lucario being stronger makes more sense narratively considering the narrative was about Ash overcoming Cynthia who was doing everything in her power to win. Not once did it seem that Cynthia had a handicap which allowed Ash to come out on top this time).
Mega Lucario battled a Togekiss that had taken no damage against Pikachu and then went on to Dynamax (+ Took on all of the Dynamax moves)
Base Garchomp only took real damage from Sirfetch'd who was hit by the Stealth Rock and also fought and defeated Milotic Before.
2) Similarly, no real rationale to say Greninja > Lucario or vice versa. That said, if Lucario does defeat Charizard; I think we could argue this point as it wouldn't narratively make sense for Greninja to be stronger than the World's strongest Trainer owned Pokemon.