The Sun, the Moon and Everyone's Dreams! (1088)

[Bortgreen]

I kinda disagree here, Ash vs. Clemont was great, and Ash/Serena was ok for what it was even if they stopped. Ash/Kiawe was nice but it was way too brief and ended in another almost Z move draw. I'm glad it happened though.

Speaking of that, kinda glad Z moves will be ditched next gen. They were fine here, but seeing Ash win battles without relying on Z moves will be refreshing.

Ash vs Clemont was quite brief too and the worst: it was cut short

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By the way, I realized during the episode:

AFTER 3 YEARS, ASH FINALLY DEFEATED A CHARIZARD
I first thought it was the first time, but forgot he defeated a random Charizard of a even more random trainer in Hoenn League. Still justice for XY anyway

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

By the way, I realized during the episode:

AFTER 3 YEARS, ASH FINALLY DEFEATED A CHARIZARD
I first thought it was the first time, but forgot he defeated a random Charizard of a even more random trainer in Hoenn League. Still justice for XY anyway

So he threw rocks at a senior citizen.

 

[Lord Godwin]

Ash vs Clemont was quite brief too and the worst: it was cut short

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By the way, I realized during the episode:

AFTER 3 YEARS, ASH FINALLY DEFEATED A CHARIZARD
I first thought it was the first time, but forgot he defeated a random Charizard of a even more random trainer in Hoenn League. Still justice for XY anyway

I think He also defeated one with Totodile of all Pokemon in early Johto when Team Rocket used Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise vs Ash's Cyndaquil, Totodile and Pikachu.

 

[p96822]

Ash vs Clemont was quite brief too and the worst: it was cut short

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By the way, I realized during the episode:

AFTER 3 YEARS, ASH FINALLY DEFEATED A CHARIZARD
I first thought it was the first time, but forgot he defeated a random Charizard of a even more random trainer in Hoenn League. Still justice for XY anyway

Really? Alain's Charizard was a mega Pokemon that have far more important then Kiawe's Charizard

 

[Bortgreen]

I think He also defeated one with Totodile of all Pokemon in early Johto when Team Rocket used Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise vs Ash's Cyndaquil, Totodile and Pikachu.

And people think Alola TR is OP
It was a loan but usually they don't get even that

Really? Alain's Charizard was a mega Pokemon that have far more important then Kiawe's Charizard

Of course it was, it's just funny species-wise

 

[Lord Godwin]

And people think Alola TR is OP
It was a loan but usually they don't get even that


Of course it was, it's just funny species-wise

TR also had a 2nd Charizard which they used together with Aggron in AG177 where they fought Ash's Donphan and Brock's Steelix.

They had another Charizard back in Ep 56 of oryginał series but this time they did not use it against Ash.

 

[mehmeh1]

TR also had a 2nd Charizard which they used together with Aggron in AG177 where they fought Ash's Donphan and Brock's Steelix.

They had another Charizard back in Ep 56 of oryginał series but this time they did not use it against Ash.

Which of those was the one Jessie forced to learn dig?

 

[thedarkdragon11]

So it's Kiawe whom Olivia is inspiring to travel outside Alola... She just asked Ash for confirmation about her opinion since Ash is an outsider... And in turn, that reawaken Ash's desire to travel to more places... Makes more sense now...

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

It's not like Ash had decided to live his whole life in Alola. The kid always wants to move out, anyway.

 

[British Soul]

Naganadel going back to its homeworld draws a parallel to Goodra, both return home in the penultimate episode of their series, both instances occur at the top of the episode as well. Also I like the continuation of SM giving attention to pokemon that hadn't appeared in an eternity, this time it's Mantyke who hasn't appeared since DP171. (It's nice to see the animators remember that Mantyke exists, unlike the TCG where Mantyke's last print was in Diamond and Pearl) The last shot of the episode confirms that Electrium-Z becoming Pikashunium-Z is permanent now. Zoroark being the trigger that helped Magearna to awaken makes sense given it is Mohn's pokemon. At least Ash got redemption from XY in his battle with Kiawe, beating a Charizard with a 'mon with an ability it got from an event.

So it's pretty clear now that the next episode would focus on Lillie with magearna and probably Ninetales setting off with gladion to find Mohn.

It's still a Vulpix in the preview.

 

[SerGoldenhandtheJust]

Yeah I know it's a Vulpix in the preview which means they either saved the evolution for next series when mohn is found or the ice stone is mentioned and rejected by snowy.

 

[Soniman]

Olivia's line about looking back on yourself as a person reeks of personal continuity and pathos for Ash and I really REALLY hope the new anime doesn't drop the ball on this. Paying respect to Ash's journey while moving forward sounds perfect to me

 

[Nikinini]

Speaking of that, kinda glad Z moves will be ditched next gen. They were fine here, but seeing Ash win battles without relying on Z moves will be refreshing.

He barely relied on Z Moves though, specially in the League.

 

[Red and Blue]

He barely relied on Z Moves though, specially in the League.

He kind of did though. The only time he didnt use a Z move in the league was in the Battle Royal and against Faba. Plus he used Z moves in most of his battles and against the Kahunas

 

[FlygontheRavager]

He kind of did though. The only time he didnt use a Z move in the league was in the Battle Royal and against Faba. Plus he used Z moves in most of his battles and against the Kahunas

While I won't deny that too many battles in SM ended with Z-moves, Ash using Z-moves doesn't necessarily equate to him relying on them to win. His Grand Trials with Olivia and Nanu, as well as all of his League battles, weren't decided by Z-moves.

 

[Twilight-Kun]

Spoiler: 11/10 artstyle at its best

I'm glad Naganadel left without fanfare - a fitting end to an unfitting return

Rest of the episode was just repeating what we already know and the stuff with Lillie and Gladion was heartwarming

 

[Nikinini]

He kind of did though. The only time he didnt use a Z move in the league was in the Battle Royal and against Faba. Plus he used Z moves in most of his battles and against the Kahunas

He used a Z Move in pretty much all of his major battles in Alola, but they almost never finished a battle or were what decided it, so I don't see it as him relying on them.

Against Hau for example, they both dodged each other's Z Moves early on, so it was basically a non-Z Move battle. Against Gladion Pikachu and Zoroark knocked each other out with their Z Moves, so the battle was decided by a regular match between the two Lycanrocs. Except for Guzma all of his opponents used Z Moves too.

The only times he finished a official battle with a Z Move were against Hala, Hapu and Kukui. Olivia's Probopass was also defeated by a Z Move but the battle continued after that.

 

[Lord Starfish]

The only times he finished a official battle with a Z Move were against Hala, Hapu and Kukui.

Further adding to this, VS Kukui the final Z-Move clash literally only happened because of divine intervention. Normally the battle would have ended with Agoyon or Pikachu VS whatever Kukui's sixth was, and both of them had already used their Z-Moves at that point. 144's climax was essentially just Kapu-Kokeko going "Look, I want to have a Z-Move clash with Pikachu, okay?!" So it was hardly Satoshi "relying on" Z-Moves.

 

[AznKei]

The episode is mainly about what each of the main cast would do after they separate ways, although for Ash it's not surprising since he's going to travel to the next region. The only twist that would lead to do it is from Olivia's suggestion.

Most of the cast would do things that would be typical to their interests, like Mallow's cooking skills improvement, while Lillie managed to revive Magearna with her tears and her fond memories of her father and Zoroark.

Ok episode. Not so original because it's like the before or last episodes of the last series.

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

It's kind of ironic XY had a better send off for every character in the traveling group (except Dedenne's tantrum and Serena's skipped battle with Ash). After that, I feel like they're rushing EVERYONE in the cast out, and that also counts Kukui, Burnet, Gladion, and Lusamine.