The Team Flare Thread

[ArmyOfOneIX]

i wouldnt mind the battle theme to sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xvW8s8kYh8

 

[catzeye]

Team Flare is such a step back for evil teams. Very disappointed since X and Y were looking incredible in all aspects.

I think it's partly because of our hype. A team based on CERN scientists or a team regarding the Yggdrasil legend would have been very interesting, but it looks like none of that will be involved after all. I'm surprised DNA isn't either. You think that would be valid enough. But their goal is to make money? Team Rocket was a pretty horrible team when it came to their goal (disregarding Mewtwo). They wanted to make money and steal Pokemon like a crime syndicate. But the evil teams evolved and included the legendaries and their mythos, which makes them much more involved. Team Magma/Aqua weren't great, but they were a great contrast. Team Galactic and Team Plasma (BW1) had very cool plots. Neo Plasma was on the typical world domination run but at least included Kyurem's powers in their quest.

I also don't like that they seem to have a fire type focus. It's great to have gym leaders and the like being type specialists because you fight them once. Team Flare will all have fire types. There's likely a lot of members, meaning there's a lot of fire types that will 100% be recycled for each battle, plus it gives an overwhelming advantage to Froakie enthusiasts. Team Magma/Aqua made sense because they were associated with geological elements.

Hopefully I'm wrong, because I want to like this.

I understand that you and quite a few others feel that it is a step back from the world domination plot. However, I wouldn't discount them because their plot is about making money. We don't know what that money is for. They could just be in it to be greedy or they could be using the money to fund something sinister that the lowly grunts probably aren't aware of. Team Flare will most likely end up involving the legendaries. However this time it may not be intentional. Like others have said they could just be very greedy and not care what happens to the region causing the legendaries to try and stop Team Flare themselves. Or they could try and capture the Xerneas/Yveltal to sell on the black market or for something else. We don't know if the Yggdrasil legend or DNA will be used in the villainous plot. They very well could be part of Team Flare's goal and the money goal is just a front or a means to an end.

They do seem to have a fire type focus, but I doubt they will solely use fire types. I can see them using dark and poison types just like every other evil team, but also have a powerful fire type to come in if all else fails. I think their teams will be a bit more diverse than usual although I would love to see a evil team who uses powerful, evolved Pokemon of every type. That way you'll have to prepare for more than just 2 or 3 types.

 

[mew 2000]

The fact that both the Professor and Team Flair/Flare are right next to each other does seem kind of curious, though it's probably to soon to make such connections just yet. The Professor does seem to give off a different kind of presence than previous Professors, I'll give him that, and then there's the fact that he battles you as well. I'm actually interested in seeing how this all plays out with Team Flair/Flare.

like how N battled us quite often in black 1? he wasn't the leader leader but still.

@above didn't team aqua use some water pokemon?

 

[catzeye]

like how N battled us quite often in black 1? he wasn't the leader leader but still.

@above didn't team aqua use some water pokemon?

Team Aqua did use water Pokemon. And on that Magma used Numel and Camerupt (fire/ground types). But still their teams seemed to rely heavily on dark and poison types like all the other teams.

 

[Aonshinzo]

eam Flare is such a step back for evil teams. Very disappointed since X and Y were looking incredible in all aspects.

I think it's partly because of our hype. A team based on CERN scientists or a team regarding the Yggdrasil legend would have been very interesting, but it looks like none of that will be involved after all. I'm surprised DNA isn't either. You think that would be valid enough. But their goal is to make money? Team Rocket was a pretty horrible team when it came to their goal (disregarding Mewtwo). They wanted to make money and steal Pokemon like a crime syndicate. But the evil teams evolved and included the legendaries and their mythos, which makes them much more involved. Team Magma/Aqua weren't great, but they were a great contrast. Team Galactic and Team Plasma (BW1) had very cool plots. Neo Plasma was on the typical world domination run but at least included Kyurem's powers in their quest.

I also don't like that they seem to have a fire type focus. It's great to have gym leaders and the like being type specialists because you fight them once. Team Flare will all have fire types. There's likely a lot of members, meaning there's a lot of fire types that will 100% be recycled for each battle, plus it gives an overwhelming advantage to Froakie enthusiasts. Team Magma/Aqua made sense because they were associated with geological elements.

Hopefully I'm wrong, because I want to like this.

In all honesty, we don't know if that's there only goal because the direct translation is a question "Is there only goal to make money!?" if that's not a sign that dictates something more I don't know what is.

Come On, People use your heads. There wouldn't be a clear DNA symbol and a Life/Death relationship with the legends if all they want to do is make money. That would make 0 sense. Ranting aside, does anyone else smell 2 evil teams this gym Team Flare/Flair and Team ????.

 

[Chespin217]

Personally, I'd like something like Team Cool(no) or Team Chill, another pun that might indicate both behavior and type preference.

 

[pokébrony4869]

I have only read up to page 8 of this thread so im not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet but... The gunts are some pasty white as.hell mofos. Anyone agree?

 

[craigprime]

An actual Pokemon Mafia/Gang seems like just the thing the series needs. A team that does their business in dark alleys, inconspicuous buidings, and covert assassinations (or something). A team that actually cares about not being seen. Corruption, both in the legal system and in towns, would thrive.

Bring it on, losers! My Pokemon's bodies are ready!

 

[hen da man]

An actual Pokemon Mafia/Gang seems like just the thing the series needs. A team that does their business in dark alleys, inconspicuous buidings, and covert assassinations (or something). A team that actually cares about not being seen. Corruption, both in the legal system and in towns, would thrive.

Bring it on, losers! My Pokemon's bodies are ready!

I reckon the idea of a Pokemon mafia would have suited last gen soooooo much better.

 

[LizardonX]

An actual Pokemon Mafia/Gang seems like just the thing the series needs. A team that does their business in dark alleys, inconspicuous buidings, and covert assassinations (or something). A team that actually cares about not being seen. Corruption, both in the legal system and in towns, would thrive.

Bring it on, losers! My Pokemon's bodies are ready!

Those suits make it very hard not to attract attention.

 

[ZXChris93]

I just remember something, and I think it'll be something nice to think about.

In Pokemon Colosseum, the main bad guys were Team Snagem, as they were on the news alot. BUT! They were actually a sub-group for the real villians, Team Cipher. Snagem supplied Cipher with Pokemon that were snaged, and Cipher turned the Pokemon into fighting machines.

Now WHAT IF, Team Flare is like Snagem, in the theory that that either they are a sub group supplying money for a bigger group for some big thing, or there are two divisions of Team Flare: One division is for the money grabbing, while the other group is focused on something else MUCH more sinister?

This is just an idea, so hopefully it isn't bashed against me too much ^_^

 

[Excitable Boy]

Given how absolutely and utterly ridiculous these guys look and how their goal (at least so far) doesn't seem to be connected to the box legends at all, I'm starting to think they might just be there solely for comic relief. It'd be a nice change, IMO; the precedent set by RS, while arguably logical (powerful Pokemon exist, no one's after them?), was starting to get a bit overdone. Another point in their favor - if they're going to be Fire-type based (and Fairy-type based, I'd hope), that means no swarms of Zubats and regional vermin.

Yeah, yeah, it may end up just being a cover and they're actually 4 srs realsies, but wouldn't it be nice if it wasn't, and this game Game Freak just decided to lampshade the entire team? Or even string us along, believing they're up to something, until the big climax is that they're not doing anything?

Either way, those are some fine-looking uniforms. Hopefully we get the option to use the suit in Trainer customization. i may have to take up real-life cosplay now, actually

Also Fire/Fighting confirmed.

Team Aqua did use water Pokemon. And on that Magma used Numel and Camerupt (fire/ground types). But still their teams seemed to rely heavily on dark and poison types like all the other teams.

Team Magma and Team Aqua literally only used three lines of Pokemon: Poochyena, Zubat, and either Carvanha or Numel.

That's it.

 

[DevilFruit]

If Team Flair uses Fire and Dark types I hope they don't abuse Litleo. Inkay doesn't look evil, so I'd disagree if they'd use it, but as for its fugly evolution that looks appropriate enough for the Team.

 

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

I reckon the idea of a Pokemon mafia would have suited last gen soooooo much better.

I think corruption in Kalos would be awesome. The idea of a region known for its beauty being corrupted secretly on the inside sounds really cool to me.

 

[Excitable Boy]

If Team Flair uses Fire and Dark types I hope they don't abuse Litleo. Inkay doesn't look evil, so I'd disagree if they'd use it, but as for its fugly evolution that looks appropriate enough for the Team.

Antagonistic teams don't always use Pokemon that are necessarily tough or malicious-looking: Team Rocket threw Sandshrew line, Machop line, Venonat, and Oddish line, Team Galactic had both Wurmple lines and Bronzor in their roster, and even Plasma used the early-game trash Patrat line.

Given Plasma's diversity in BW2, I'm optimistic that Flair won't abuse any particular line too much.

 

[Takaru]

Given how absolutely and utterly ridiculous these guys look and how their goal (at least so far) doesn't seem to be connected to the box legends at all, I'm starting to think they might just be there solely for comic relief. It'd be a nice change, IMO; the precedent set by RS, while arguably logical (powerful Pokemon exist, no one's after them?), was starting to get a bit overdone. Another point in their favor - if they're going to be Fire-type based (and Fairy-type based, I'd hope), that means no swarms of Zubats and regional vermin.

Yeah, yeah, it may end up just being a cover and they're actually 4 srs realsies, but wouldn't it be nice if it wasn't, and this game Game Freak just decided to lampshade the entire team? Or even string us along, believing they're up to something, until the big climax is that they're not doing anything?

Either way, those are some fine-looking uniforms. Hopefully we get the option to use the suit in Trainer customization. i may have to take up real-life cosplay now, actually

I am 100% behind this idea, and would LOVE just a comic relief side-story, that could add to other side-quest type deals. Plus it would give a separate story that would make the game more interesting.

 

[humilau]

Given how absolutely and utterly ridiculous these guys look and how their goal (at least so far) doesn't seem to be connected to the box legends at all, I'm starting to think they might just be there solely for comic relief. It'd be a nice change, IMO; the precedent set by RS, while arguably logical (powerful Pokemon exist, no one's after them?), was starting to get a bit overdone. Another point in their favor - if they're going to be Fire-type based (and Fairy-type based, I'd hope), that means no swarms of Zubats and regional vermin.

Yeah, yeah, it may end up just being a cover and they're actually 4 srs realsies, but wouldn't it be nice if it wasn't, and this game Game Freak just decided to lampshade the entire team? Or even string us along, believing they're up to something, until the big climax is that they're not doing anything?

Either way, those are some fine-looking uniforms. Hopefully we get the option to use the suit in Trainer customization. i may have to take up real-life cosplay now, actually

Also Fire/Fighting confirmed.

I love how they did the girl character with vogue hand gestures. Hilarious.

Also, Fire type would be a good choice. Fire represents warmth and life and it also brings great destruction and death, befitting the whole life/death thing going on between the two legends. Although, it is quite possible that the villains probably won't be too involved with the version mascots, they'll probably want to steal them just for the sake of it/for money.

 

[DCFan]

I love how they did the girl character with vogue hand gestures. Hilarious.

Also, Fire type would be a good choice. Fire represents warmth and life and it also brings great destruction and death, befitting the whole life/death thing going on between the two legends. Although, it is quite possible that the villains probably won't be too involved with the version mascots, they'll probably want to steal them just for the sake of it/for money.

That could be freaking awesome.. Team Flare has a lot of potential..

 

[Aschur]

I would genuinely like it if they were comic relief. I'd also like them to be absolutely oblivious to the existence of the legendaries, all they want to do is make money, and they start following you around because you keep beating them.

 

[Bariokie]

I just remember something, and I think it'll be something nice to think about.

In Pokemon Colosseum, the main bad guys were Team Snagem, as they were on the news alot. BUT! They were actually a sub-group for the real villians, Team Cipher. Snagem supplied Cipher with Pokemon that were snaged, and Cipher turned the Pokemon into fighting machines.

Now WHAT IF, Team Flare is like Snagem, in the theory that that either they are a sub group supplying money for a bigger group for some big thing, or there are two divisions of Team Flare: One division is for the money grabbing, while the other group is focused on something else MUCH more sinister?

This is just an idea, so hopefully it isn't bashed against me too much ^_^

Hmm... Doesn't sounds bad...

Team flare/flair could be the ones for the money.
And they give the money to another higher team that makes plans/machines/trains pokemon.
For the bosses of the 3rd team!