jireh the provider
Video Game Designer
The trials of creating and mastering the Epic Genre
According to wikipedia:
An epic is traditionally a genre of poetry, known as epic poetry. However in modern terms, epic is often extended to other art forms, such as epic theater, films, music, novels, plays, television shows, and video games, wherein the story has a theme of grandeur and heroism, just as in epic poetry.
For a nice example, (from what I see as my most favorite example) I'll show you a video of the Final Chapter of Hyrule: Total War (a fan made Zelda Game made by UndyingNephalim. So credits to him)
[video=youtube;4vCT7gmc1G0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vCT7gmc1G0[/video]
The story is found inside this Spoiler:
From what I understand, an Epic would usually be something like Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings. Long stories and a minimum of three Volumes [a triology in other terms] or more. Some dubbed it as the "most difficult genre to ever produce".
But often times, they always have shown about thousands of characters being involved in some grand event that can make massive battles, histories, and truces of many people.
Are there any epics where any kind of WAR is not initially involved?
So my questions of curiosity are: [your answers can also be from your personal experiences and understanding. If you can do this though, I'll be glad to know.]
a. What makes an epic story [fanfic or not] extremely difficult to make?
b. Just how much detail, plot, and content are often preferred when you are making an epic of your own?
c. As the main character/s go further in the Epic story, should the conflicts be much deeper compared to the previous Volume as the main
protagonist's personality develops much more deeper [think of harry potter in early volumes to the later parts in the much more mature harry hotter]?
d. Once again, are there any epics where any kind of WAR is not initially involved? Or epics where the conflicts are not so grand massive and deep?
e. What are your favorite epics of any media [video games, literature, film, etc]? What makes that Epic so epic?
f. How difficult is it to make an Epic Genre Story [technically and personally]?
g. From your own perspective, what are the ultimate challenges/trials of making a story built for the Epic Genre?
If you're wondering why this thread talks about a specific genre, it's because when I look back at my early Game Design Document [this is Game development Jargon], that my original story I'm posting here [Feli Chronicles Series] could belong in this genre.
The last part of it involves a grand war and freedom which is found on the last [4th] volume of my planned series. After watching the video I posted here, It makes me wonder ahead on how challenging it could be for me to continue my series the further I go. My main characters will age, they will meet more characters, more conflicts [simple and more deeper ones], new relationships, more mysteries, more folklore, and more worlds.
Probably, it is quite a daunting huge scale to make.
According to wikipedia:
An epic is traditionally a genre of poetry, known as epic poetry. However in modern terms, epic is often extended to other art forms, such as epic theater, films, music, novels, plays, television shows, and video games, wherein the story has a theme of grandeur and heroism, just as in epic poetry.
For a nice example, (from what I see as my most favorite example) I'll show you a video of the Final Chapter of Hyrule: Total War (a fan made Zelda Game made by UndyingNephalim. So credits to him)
[video=youtube;4vCT7gmc1G0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vCT7gmc1G0[/video]
The story is found inside this Spoiler:
In the story of the game called Hyrule Total War, you get to play as any of the many races of The Legend of Zelda Series and its up to the player whether they bring peace or chaos in the land of Hyrule. This fan-made Zelda world was a land of constant battle of religion, politics, appealing to the masses, racial supremacy, and territory.
But on the video, it shows on how Majora (the Mask God of Darkness and corruption) showed to the four supreme factions, namely the Hylians the Zora, the Kokiri, and the Gorons, that the Legendary Triforce can be destroyed by his hands where others have failed.
It was also from their own wars and egoistic status (the four factions above believe that they are the most supreme of all factions since they are chosen by the Goddesses) that brought corruption, discord, and violence throughout the entire land: some of the crucial ingredients that are needed by Majora to be resurrected and destroy all of the races that followed The three Goddesses and the Triforce. Along with races that became Majora's followers, he builds himself an army ready to kill every faction that follows the Three Goddesses.
Thus, the last four remaining factions set aside their pride and envy among each other and they fight together to defeat Majora (he's a God keep in mind) and his many followers in order for the four races to redeem themselves from their cataclysmic mistakes and make themselves as an Epic Legend once more.
But on the video, it shows on how Majora (the Mask God of Darkness and corruption) showed to the four supreme factions, namely the Hylians the Zora, the Kokiri, and the Gorons, that the Legendary Triforce can be destroyed by his hands where others have failed.
It was also from their own wars and egoistic status (the four factions above believe that they are the most supreme of all factions since they are chosen by the Goddesses) that brought corruption, discord, and violence throughout the entire land: some of the crucial ingredients that are needed by Majora to be resurrected and destroy all of the races that followed The three Goddesses and the Triforce. Along with races that became Majora's followers, he builds himself an army ready to kill every faction that follows the Three Goddesses.
Thus, the last four remaining factions set aside their pride and envy among each other and they fight together to defeat Majora (he's a God keep in mind) and his many followers in order for the four races to redeem themselves from their cataclysmic mistakes and make themselves as an Epic Legend once more.
From what I understand, an Epic would usually be something like Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings. Long stories and a minimum of three Volumes [a triology in other terms] or more. Some dubbed it as the "most difficult genre to ever produce".
But often times, they always have shown about thousands of characters being involved in some grand event that can make massive battles, histories, and truces of many people.
Are there any epics where any kind of WAR is not initially involved?
So my questions of curiosity are: [your answers can also be from your personal experiences and understanding. If you can do this though, I'll be glad to know.]
a. What makes an epic story [fanfic or not] extremely difficult to make?
b. Just how much detail, plot, and content are often preferred when you are making an epic of your own?
c. As the main character/s go further in the Epic story, should the conflicts be much deeper compared to the previous Volume as the main
protagonist's personality develops much more deeper [think of harry potter in early volumes to the later parts in the much more mature harry hotter]?
d. Once again, are there any epics where any kind of WAR is not initially involved? Or epics where the conflicts are not so grand massive and deep?
e. What are your favorite epics of any media [video games, literature, film, etc]? What makes that Epic so epic?
f. How difficult is it to make an Epic Genre Story [technically and personally]?
g. From your own perspective, what are the ultimate challenges/trials of making a story built for the Epic Genre?
If you're wondering why this thread talks about a specific genre, it's because when I look back at my early Game Design Document [this is Game development Jargon], that my original story I'm posting here [Feli Chronicles Series] could belong in this genre.
The last part of it involves a grand war and freedom which is found on the last [4th] volume of my planned series. After watching the video I posted here, It makes me wonder ahead on how challenging it could be for me to continue my series the further I go. My main characters will age, they will meet more characters, more conflicts [simple and more deeper ones], new relationships, more mysteries, more folklore, and more worlds.
Probably, it is quite a daunting huge scale to make.
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