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The two other trainers in Pallet Town. What do you think they were like?

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whit19

Fire boy
From the first season we knew that there were four trainers leavin Pallet Town to start their pokemon journey. We only know about Ash and Gary. But what about the other two? All we know is that they might (I'm not sure if they completely gave up on it or just couldn't get enough badges.) have quit bein pokemon trainers and one had a charmander and the other had a Bulbasaur. (At least I think.)

We neva knew their names or if one was a girl and one was a boy or etc. We neva knew if any of them were Ash and Gary's old childhood friends or new to Pallet Town. And it coulda been nice to find out why they quit being pokemon trainers. Like was it cuz all the trainin was becomin too hard for them or did one of their pokemon die on them, makin them give up their passion for bein a pokemon trainer?

Who knows...

I doubt the anime will eva mention them again, but I thought this topic mighta been interestin... Or maybe I'm just lookin into things too hard.

Do you think it woulda added more depth into the anime if the unknown Pallet Town two trainers were introduced as important characters instead of just two random trainers we knew nothin about?
 
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Rex Kamex

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I doubt they'd ever come, but it would be cool if the FR/LG girl was one of the Trainers...
 
MJC CartoGuy said:
I doubt they'd ever come, but it would be cool if the FR/LG girl was one of the Trainers...
I'd kill for that... but it won't happen. :(

I think they should at the very least give more insight on them. But since they brought the cheap "They flunked at the end" excuse to get rid of the slight trace that was of them, I doubt it.

Things like that would SO make the Anime less dull and predictable... but as in everything else, Pokémon writers are known for their lack of good ideas that don't involve the 10000th filler featuring certain Pokémon... =/
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
I think they both fell into a pit and died.

The writers will probably never go into detail about it, because it's not terribly important. Maybe if we were still early on in Ash's journey Prof. Oak might explain it, but since we're 400+ episodes into the anime there's no point to explain it. Orion they were trainers who failed to collect Gym badges and gave up, what kind of story can you develop out of this? It wasn't a cheap excuse, it just was something completely unimportant.

But I do like the idea of one of them being FR/LG girl...although that would mean she gave up the idea of being a trainer. :(
 

PDL

disenchanted
the other two trainers are living with Ash's dad
 

Kamex

Team Rocket's rockin
Lol, you said almost exactly what I said when I started this thread. o_O

Anyway, yeah, would still be cool now if those trainers returned in some two-part episode or something, this time as real characters. But the writers might not be interested in bringing them back, they may simply want to leave the two trainers in history as they are now, almost like a legend. And I understand that. It's kind of like the whole idea of sequels not living up to their prequel, ya know what I mean?
 
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Uchiha Obito

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you never know.. They might come in a new pokemon season being new rivals for Ash. If they did do that, the girl would most likely have a bulbasaur and the boy a charmander.
 

PDL

disenchanted
alright, here's my real answer:

These two mystery trainers' sole purpose in the anime was to be a plot device so that Ash would miss out on all 3 standard starter pokemon and get Pikachu

Gary got 1 of them (and it wasn't revealed until the very end of Jotho) and for marketing purposes, Ash had to have Pikachu as his very first pokemon...

so they invented 2 other trainers to get the remaining pokemon... and they were referenced a few times until after Ash got the Earth badge and returned to Pallet town. That was when Oak said that the "other two" gave up and flunked out. Thus writting them out of the show perminanetly... never to be referenced again.

It's very very unlikely that they'll be mentioned, let alone seen in the anime... Much like Ash's dad, romance subplots, the GS ball's purpose, one-shot filler characters etc. They're unimportant and thus completely forgotten by the writers.
 
For the longest time, I thought they were the other 2 Trainers in "Mewtwo Strikes Back" because of a dub mess-up (Ash called the blue-haired guy "Gary"...) and the fact that the Movie came out before the chapter where Oak said they "gave up". It kinda made sense, even. "Gary" had Venusaur, and that girl had Blastoise. The other guy probably had started with Charmander, but released it as he decided to become a full-on Water Pokémon Trainer. I was then told that the blue-haired guy wasn't Gary, which broke the theory. Now I know they were the top 3 Trainers of the Kanto League (Check the shadows closely... ;)).

And EvilKeckleon is probably right, as sad as it is... =/
 

-Totodile-

GOTCHA!
Did it ever occur to anyone that these trainers might not have been mentioned in the original version. Almost like how Richie has an Eevee in the dub but not in the original.
 

Kamex

Team Rocket's rockin
-Totodile- said:
Did it ever occur to anyone that these trainers might not have been mentioned in the original version. Almost like how Richie has an Eevee in the dub but not in the original.
He had one in the dub? He didn't have one in the original? o_O

Of course these trainers were mentioned in the original. They had to be. What else would Samurai of Viridian Forest have been explaining when they showed that scene that had all three starters whooping his Pincer's ***?

Edit: His Metapod may have been in that scene, too, IIRC.
 

PDL

disenchanted
I used to beleive that the other 2 trainers abandoned their starter pokemon, and Ash obtained them somehow

Daimien could have been one of them, obviuosly his starter was Charmander

Blubasaur was abandoned and ended up at that hidden village, where it became the protector of the place.

and Squirtle was also an abandoned pokemon and joined other abandoned Squirtles to form the Squirtle squad.

of course, for this theory to work properly, you must disregard that Gary should have gotten one of the starters, and Gary couldn't just abandon a pokemon... especially since he's the grandson of the Professor Oak.

So I also thought that Eevee was Gary's starter, much like in Yellow. Gary, being the grandson of Professor Oak, must have access to something special. Thus he got Eevee.

but this was all back in the day when Pokemon was still the huge fad it once was.
 

whit19

Fire boy
Lol, you said almost exactly what I said when I started this thread. o_O

You think so? What I said sounds nothin like what you said. Only think I can see that's the same is that we were both thinkin of the two unknown trainers from Pallet Town.
 

Rex Kamex

Well-Known Member
CyberCubed said:
I think they both fell into a pit and died.

The writers will probably never go into detail about it, because it's not terribly important. Maybe if we were still early on in Ash's journey Prof. Oak might explain it, but since we're 400+ episodes into the anime there's no point to explain it. Orion they were trainers who failed to collect Gym badges and gave up, what kind of story can you develop out of this? It wasn't a cheap excuse, it just was something completely unimportant.

But I do like the idea of one of them being FR/LG girl...although that would mean she gave up the idea of being a trainer. :(

Unless of course Ash motivated her to try again, or she motivated herself.

...Well, a guy can dream, can't he? (Don't answer that.)
 

UberSorcerer

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Girl=Leaf or Fire mostlike likley leaf, with bulby
Boy=Green of Red, hes the NEW Satoshi, so Charmander
 

MaskedManAbsolkid

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IIRC, Oak told Ash they quit in the episode where he caught Primeape.

Like mentioned, they were only a plot device, but I was hoping to see them in the Indigo League.
 

ChaosMage

Izit cuz I is black?
We know that, by the time Ash caught Primeape, they were both one badge ahead. It was sometime between then and the league where they gave up. Shame, really.
 
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