UbersSuck20
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The Uber ladder sucks (Featuring Infernape, peaked at #35)
The uber ladder is bad. Seriously.
Crobatrulez20 here, presenting his newest RMT. I managed to get into top 100 using a starter that is normally completely outclassed by Mega Blaziken, Ho-oh and Reshiram.
PEAKS:
(By the way, ilikepriority1 is one of my alts. Notice how this team has three Pokemon with priority moves: Mega Scizor with Bullet Punch, Arceus with ExtremeSpeed and Infernape with Mach Punch.)
The team at a glance
So this is what I had at first. Kyogre was covered by Palkia, while Tyranitar could handle Mega Mewtwo Y. I used this team until I hit 1300-1350 rating and I got stuck there. Giratina-O was my defogger, but eventually I realized it didn't really fit my team, as it had no reliable recovery move and was set up fodder for the extremely dangerous Xerneas, who can take a LO Bullet Punch and was able to sweep my team once it got to +2 if Scizor was dead.
Tried Lugia over Giratina-O, as it could live a +2 Moonblast and phaze Xerneas out, as well as counter Extreme Killer Arceus if it didn't have Shadow Force. Used Arceus-Ghost over EKiller so I could spinblock and still have a good chance at sweeping. However, I found out that Arceus-Ghost lacked STAB on ExtremeSpeed and had no way to get past Yveltal, who was now very dangerous to this team as it could OHKO Tyranitar with Focus Blast and the only Pokemon who could take care of it were Infernape with CB Flare Blitz and Palkia, who couldn't switch into Yveltal at all (especially since Palkia was holding a Lustrous Orb at that time).
As such, I decided to replace Lugia with Mega Gengar and Extreme Killer Arceus returned on my team. This team was more successful now, since Mega Gengar is an awesome trapper with Shadow Tag and Destiny Bond, especially with its insane Special Attack and great base Speed which allows it to outspeed Darkrai and Shaymin-S.
However, I found out that Mega Gengar had to rely on Destiny Bond to get past opposing EK Arceus, since Focus Blast is, well... Focus Blast. So, I decided to replace Mega Gengar with a Ho-oh, in order to have a special wall, a wallbreaker and a phazer all in one. Since Ho-oh absolutely requires Defog support, I decided to change my Scizor's item from Life Orb to Scizorite and replaced Swords Dance with Defog.
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Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 176 SDef
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Payback
- Low Kick
- Stone Edge
Tyranitar is a great special wall, able to set up Stealth Rock and heavily damage many Uber threats thanks to its great base attack. Payback is used here as Tyranitar is very slow and thus Payback can have 100BP most of the time. Low Kick is for Ferrothorn, Dialga, Arceus-Rock and some Groudon, while Stone Edge handles Ho-oh.
Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Defog
- Knock Off
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
Scizor is mainly here to check Xerneas, Extreme Killer Arceus, Mega Kangaskhan, Mewtwo (without Fire Blast) and Yveltal. Defog is necessary for this team, as Ho-oh is 4x weak to it, especially since this team uses sand and Ho-oh has a Life Orb. Knock Off can handle some walls that love their lefties, as well as Sableye and Chansey. Bullet Punch and Superpower allow Mega Scizor to do its main job.
Infernape @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Sleep Talk
- Mach Punch
Infernape normally is outclassed in Ubers, since (Mega) Blaziken is much stronger and has the ability Speed Boost, while Ho-Oh and Reshiram are a lot bulkier and stronger than this monkey, although they are slower (that stupid 90 speed). However, Infernape doesn't need to rely on Protect, meaning it can hit setup sweepers and 90 or 100 base speed pokemon on the first turn, unlike Blaziken. This means it can put the hurt on Xerneas before it sets up a Geomancy. Sleep Talk trolls Darkrai, who can otherwise be a huge threat to this team, while Mach Punch handles most Pokemon in the red range (<25%).
Palkia @ Assault Vest / Lustrous Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Fire Blast
- Thunder
- Spacial Rend
I seriously don't know what item should I use, but I think Assault Vest is better since it allows Palkia to switch into Kyogre all day and laugh at it. Other than that, remember Palkia can hit 10 of the 18 types super effectively (DO NOT COMPARE IT TO ELECTIVIRE PLEASE) and get perfect neutral coverage. SO PLEASE STOP USING THE CHOICE SCARF SET, IT SUCKS.
Arceus @ Silk Scarf
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake
- Shadow Force
Do I even need to explain this one? Shadow Force > Shadow Claw since this move allows EK Arceus to get past Lugia and Giratina with the help of Stealth Rock, or if I manage to get sandstorm up and Scizor managed to Knock Off their Leftovers.
Ho-Oh @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Whirlwind
Ho-oh is used on this team mainly to spread burn and stop Nasty Plot Darkrai, Mega Kangaskhan trying to set up with Power-Up Punch and act as a second Xerneas check if Scizor is dead. Even with Regenerator, Ho-oh desperately needs Roost, since it's 4x weak to Stealth Rock. Whirlwind is usually for opposing Ho-oh if I manage to get SR up.
Please do not suggest the following:
- Replacing Infernape
- Replacing Tyranitar with Groudon. Yes, I realize that Ho-oh and Infernape would really like to hit even harder with their Fire-type move and (in the case of Ho-oh) wall some Water-type moves, such as Palkia's Hydro Pump. However, I actually tried Groudon over TTar and found out it was a free invitation for Kyogre and Gengar to switch in and destroy it. Not only that, but if I'd replace Tyranitar with Groudon, Ho-oh would become an enormous threat to this team, since it actually walls Palkia in the sun unless I'd decide to replace Hydro Pump with Stone Edge or something, which would be a waste since Stone Edge as a coverage move is usually for Ho-oh and nothing else (this works best on Reshiram). Honestly, Mega Scizor already tanks physical attacks pretty well, while Tyranitar can take a Choice Scarf Surf from Kyogre, a Draco Meteor from Kyurem-W, can completely stop Ho-oh and Reshiram and get rid of them, something Groudon can only dream of.
- Leftovers on Ho-oh
So what did we learn from this? The uber ladder... *puts on sunglasses*
defines stupidity.
The uber ladder is bad. Seriously.
Crobatrulez20 here, presenting his newest RMT. I managed to get into top 100 using a starter that is normally completely outclassed by Mega Blaziken, Ho-oh and Reshiram.
PEAKS:
(By the way, ilikepriority1 is one of my alts. Notice how this team has three Pokemon with priority moves: Mega Scizor with Bullet Punch, Arceus with ExtremeSpeed and Infernape with Mach Punch.)
The team at a glance
So this is what I had at first. Kyogre was covered by Palkia, while Tyranitar could handle Mega Mewtwo Y. I used this team until I hit 1300-1350 rating and I got stuck there. Giratina-O was my defogger, but eventually I realized it didn't really fit my team, as it had no reliable recovery move and was set up fodder for the extremely dangerous Xerneas, who can take a LO Bullet Punch and was able to sweep my team once it got to +2 if Scizor was dead.
Tried Lugia over Giratina-O, as it could live a +2 Moonblast and phaze Xerneas out, as well as counter Extreme Killer Arceus if it didn't have Shadow Force. Used Arceus-Ghost over EKiller so I could spinblock and still have a good chance at sweeping. However, I found out that Arceus-Ghost lacked STAB on ExtremeSpeed and had no way to get past Yveltal, who was now very dangerous to this team as it could OHKO Tyranitar with Focus Blast and the only Pokemon who could take care of it were Infernape with CB Flare Blitz and Palkia, who couldn't switch into Yveltal at all (especially since Palkia was holding a Lustrous Orb at that time).
As such, I decided to replace Lugia with Mega Gengar and Extreme Killer Arceus returned on my team. This team was more successful now, since Mega Gengar is an awesome trapper with Shadow Tag and Destiny Bond, especially with its insane Special Attack and great base Speed which allows it to outspeed Darkrai and Shaymin-S.
However, I found out that Mega Gengar had to rely on Destiny Bond to get past opposing EK Arceus, since Focus Blast is, well... Focus Blast. So, I decided to replace Mega Gengar with a Ho-oh, in order to have a special wall, a wallbreaker and a phazer all in one. Since Ho-oh absolutely requires Defog support, I decided to change my Scizor's item from Life Orb to Scizorite and replaced Swords Dance with Defog.
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Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 176 SDef
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Payback
- Low Kick
- Stone Edge
Tyranitar is a great special wall, able to set up Stealth Rock and heavily damage many Uber threats thanks to its great base attack. Payback is used here as Tyranitar is very slow and thus Payback can have 100BP most of the time. Low Kick is for Ferrothorn, Dialga, Arceus-Rock and some Groudon, while Stone Edge handles Ho-oh.
Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Defog
- Knock Off
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
Scizor is mainly here to check Xerneas, Extreme Killer Arceus, Mega Kangaskhan, Mewtwo (without Fire Blast) and Yveltal. Defog is necessary for this team, as Ho-oh is 4x weak to it, especially since this team uses sand and Ho-oh has a Life Orb. Knock Off can handle some walls that love their lefties, as well as Sableye and Chansey. Bullet Punch and Superpower allow Mega Scizor to do its main job.
Infernape @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Sleep Talk
- Mach Punch
Infernape normally is outclassed in Ubers, since (Mega) Blaziken is much stronger and has the ability Speed Boost, while Ho-Oh and Reshiram are a lot bulkier and stronger than this monkey, although they are slower (that stupid 90 speed). However, Infernape doesn't need to rely on Protect, meaning it can hit setup sweepers and 90 or 100 base speed pokemon on the first turn, unlike Blaziken. This means it can put the hurt on Xerneas before it sets up a Geomancy. Sleep Talk trolls Darkrai, who can otherwise be a huge threat to this team, while Mach Punch handles most Pokemon in the red range (<25%).
Palkia @ Assault Vest / Lustrous Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Fire Blast
- Thunder
- Spacial Rend
I seriously don't know what item should I use, but I think Assault Vest is better since it allows Palkia to switch into Kyogre all day and laugh at it. Other than that, remember Palkia can hit 10 of the 18 types super effectively (DO NOT COMPARE IT TO ELECTIVIRE PLEASE) and get perfect neutral coverage. SO PLEASE STOP USING THE CHOICE SCARF SET, IT SUCKS.
Arceus @ Silk Scarf
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake
- Shadow Force
Do I even need to explain this one? Shadow Force > Shadow Claw since this move allows EK Arceus to get past Lugia and Giratina with the help of Stealth Rock, or if I manage to get sandstorm up and Scizor managed to Knock Off their Leftovers.
Ho-Oh @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Whirlwind
Ho-oh is used on this team mainly to spread burn and stop Nasty Plot Darkrai, Mega Kangaskhan trying to set up with Power-Up Punch and act as a second Xerneas check if Scizor is dead. Even with Regenerator, Ho-oh desperately needs Roost, since it's 4x weak to Stealth Rock. Whirlwind is usually for opposing Ho-oh if I manage to get SR up.
Please do not suggest the following:
- Replacing Infernape
- Replacing Tyranitar with Groudon. Yes, I realize that Ho-oh and Infernape would really like to hit even harder with their Fire-type move and (in the case of Ho-oh) wall some Water-type moves, such as Palkia's Hydro Pump. However, I actually tried Groudon over TTar and found out it was a free invitation for Kyogre and Gengar to switch in and destroy it. Not only that, but if I'd replace Tyranitar with Groudon, Ho-oh would become an enormous threat to this team, since it actually walls Palkia in the sun unless I'd decide to replace Hydro Pump with Stone Edge or something, which would be a waste since Stone Edge as a coverage move is usually for Ho-oh and nothing else (this works best on Reshiram). Honestly, Mega Scizor already tanks physical attacks pretty well, while Tyranitar can take a Choice Scarf Surf from Kyogre, a Draco Meteor from Kyurem-W, can completely stop Ho-oh and Reshiram and get rid of them, something Groudon can only dream of.
- Leftovers on Ho-oh
So what did we learn from this? The uber ladder... *puts on sunglasses*
defines stupidity.
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