The Unova Region

[moonlightning]

Mm, I don't really like the renames, I wish they would have left it alone. I mean, Isshu does have its translation problems (I'm studying Japanese too) but Unova is a litte...

 

[Grei]

Let's talk about Black City and White Forest.


I'm very, very torn on which one to choose. I find a lot of appeal in the aesthetics of White Forest, but as someone who will use the GTS and wants to complete the Pokedex, Black City seems more useful.

So... can anyone inform me of the mechanics? In Black City, it just X number of Trainers with a random set of Pokemon based on your copy, and by going to White Forest over High Link, you can add new Trainers to your city? Is that correct?

Which one do you all prefer? Is Black City worth it, is White Forest useless?

 

[Kylesico912]

Let's talk about Black City and White Forest.


I'm very, very torn on which one to choose. I find a lot of appeal in the aesthetics of White Forest, but as someone who will use the GTS and wants to complete the Pokedex, Black City seems more useful.

So... can anyone inform me of the mechanics? In Black City, it just X number of Trainers with a random set of Pokemon based on your copy, and by going to White Forest over High Link, you can add new Trainers to your city? Is that correct?

Which one do you all prefer? Is Black City worth it, is White Forest useless?

Not exactly useless... White forest is full of wild pokemon that are not even found in black and has alot of items for free that you can get in black for a price.

 

[Grei]

Not exactly useless... White forest is full of wild pokemon that are not even found in black and has alot of items for free that you can get in black for a price.

But how often can you get those items? How many different Pokemon species are available at the beginning? If I can just see the Pokemon in Black, I can avoid needing to train Lvl. 5 Pokemon up to whatever levels they evolve at just by going onto the GTS and getting their evolved forms, then breeding.

 

[Lorde]

Are people really going to choose which version of the games they'll end up buying, based on the version-exclusive locations? I would have thought the cover Pokemon would be what people were basing their choice on. Well anyway, I've played both Black and White version but I've only gotten to White Forest so far. I appreciate the wild Pokemon that appear there, but that's not enough to make me an avid fan of that location. Black City's trainers do look to be a bit more useful at first glance though. Both locations seem pretty annoying, what with them suddenly shrinking unless you talk to everyone there.

 

[Sponge]

I get the feeling I'm hardly going to touch the White Forest, which is a shame since I've liked it since it was first announced...

However it seems so awkward with having to link up locally to change the pokemon around (which I can't do since I can't interact locally with anyone in Pokemon) and also you have to keep talking to people so they don't leave.....it all seems a bit Animal Crossing. Which would be fine if that was what the game was about but it's not....and I'll probably either forget or get frustrated quickly. I'll probably just go there to catch the initially generated wild pokemon and then just trade/migrate the rest.

It's a shame, cause it could have been something really great.

 

[Grei]

That's a little disappointing. I could care less about whether I got Reshiram or Zekrom, so the two differing locations were what I was going to decide with. I suppose I'll just go with White Forest since it's more aesthetically pleasing.

That, and because I really want Wargle and Ranculus. White it is.

 

[Sponge]

I like Reshiram and Zekrom both the same, so it's not that that's deciding it for me.

Deciding factors on getting white for me:

Rankurusu (Overall I prefer White's exclusives)
More Natural Locations

Mostly it's the locations though, cause I can always trade for pokemon I can't get.

 

[Pikacu]

White forest is probably more beneficial than black city because, the pokemon are generally incredible rare and you can find the same items in white forest as you can in black city, so really all black city is giving the player is a couple of bonus battles

 

[Ophie]

But how often can you get those items? How many different Pokemon species are available at the beginning? If I can just see the Pokemon in Black, I can avoid needing to train Lvl. 5 Pokemon up to whatever levels they evolve at just by going onto the GTS and getting their evolved forms, then breeding.

Well, you'll need to offer up something compelling in return.

Besides, you'll need to have people with the White version in order to properly trade with--the more White version owners there are, the faster you'll get the trades.

In other words, that line of thinking is pretty selfish. Some people will need to pick the White version in order for you to do what you described there. There might not be as much for White version owners if you look at it that way, but without them, you can't properly trade over the GTS.

 

[Pikacu]

How is that selfish isn't it promoting meetings/interaction between players, what's selfish about that

 

[Grei]

Well, you'll need to offer up something compelling in return.

Besides, you'll need to have people with the White version in order to properly trade with--the more White version owners there are, the faster you'll get the trades.

In other words, that line of thinking is pretty selfish. Some people will need to pick the White version in order for you to do what you described there. There might not be as much for White version owners if you look at it that way, but without them, you can't properly trade over the GTS.

...what?

I'm selfish because I, a potential Pokemon Black player, would choose to save time by getting Pokemon over the GTS instead of raising them my own in Pokemon White? Are you freaking kidding me?

That's not selfish in the slightest. Not wanting to waste time training countless Pokemon is not selfish, and getting Pokemon my own way--over the GTS followed by breeding--is not selfish either. I'm playing my own way, and there's nothing wrong with that. You're essentially saying anyone who picks Pokemon Black version--hell, anyone who doesn't pick White Version--is being selfish in some way. That's ludicrous.

Besides, Pokemon White players rely on Pokemon Black players to get the different wild Pokemon in the first place. The interaction between Black and White is not a parasitic one, as you are describing it to be. They go hand in hand. :/

 

[Lorde]

I hate the whole "linking up with other versions of the game" aspect of Black and White. I still have no idea how to run the Global Link thing and I always have to ask my brother to get that stuff set up. It looks like Black and White are more dependent on other games than some of the previous games were. That bugs me to no end. That's why I have no intention of using Black City or White Forest if I can help it. I really don't want to link with other people just to get a few Pokemon/trainers to appear. There should be enough Pokemon/trainers to find throughout Unova without linking with other players anyway.

 

[Check em]

Let's talk about Black City and White Forest.


I'm very, very torn on which one to choose. I find a lot of appeal in the aesthetics of White Forest, but as someone who will use the GTS and wants to complete the Pokedex, Black City seems more useful.

So... can anyone inform me of the mechanics? In Black City, it just X number of Trainers with a random set of Pokemon based on your copy, and by going to White Forest over High Link, you can add new Trainers to your city? Is that correct?

Which one do you all prefer? Is Black City worth it, is White Forest useless?

I prefer black city because I can get the pokemon I need through my GEN4 games anyways. Mine was completely empty except from the pokemon center when I first went there. You have to high-link to get buildings and people, so if you don't have any pokefan friends there's nothing you can do there.

 

[Ophie]

Perhaps I'm interpreting the post wrong--ideally, the best thing that would happen is if the people buying Black and the people buying White were exactly equal in number. For every person getting Pokémon in White Forest, there would be someone who'd want that Pokémon in Black City.

What I read felt really Black-centric to me, and I thought you intended to take advantage of people with the White version. It sounded to me like, "Let the guys with the White version do the dirty work; I'll do the fun part." So with that, I thought, "So then, what's in it for people with the White version? What reason would someone get the White version for?"

 

[Adrexus]

I was a little miffed at first how I heard there were going to be version exclusive regions. But I think I will manage. I'll probably end up buying both games in the end.

I'm just curious as to how Black City/White Forest will work in the third game. Will they have both in the same game? Or will there be a whole new place entirely?

 

[Mr. Joker]

I was a little miffed at first how I heard there were going to be version exclusive regions. But I think I will manage. I'll probably end up buying both games in the end.

I'm just curious as to how Black City/White Forest will work in the third game. Will they have both in the same game? Or will there be a whole new place entirely?

I could see it being a whole new place, Crimson Mountain or something like that. And when it connects to Black or White and the game recognizes it as the opposite GO Area.

 

[Crystal_Power]

Allow me to introduce you to a province called "Nova Scotia". It's also the derivative for my banking branch.

So that's where I'm familiar with it. But, yeah, I suppose it does have an astral sort of connotation.

C_L

Nova Scotia? You live in a space colony? .....
Hehehe, I'm still hoping it's pronounce You-No-Vay.
But if it's You-Nova. Eh, I'll get over it.


As for the Black city and White forest. I find them both interesting.
Like Souryuu city also changes in appearance depending on version. I've deciding to get both version hopefully.

 

[Ememew]

"Unova" huh? I still would have preferred "Isshu" (probably because I've gotten used to it). I guess they changed it to emphasize that it's a different country from the other regions by giving it a name that's different from the others . . . just a theory. I do agree with the person who said it sounded more like a Ranger region name than a main-game one.

It will take some getting used to . . .

As for Black City/White Forest, I'm not overly thrilled with the link-stuff needed to keep it from shrinking. There aren't many Pokemon players in my area that I know of. I'm hoping for a new area entirely in the Third game in place of the City/Forest as opposed to a combined one, I like the idea of exploring new areas in third games. (Ooh, idea! Whatever is in place of Black City/White Forest in the third game is where you'll take Kyurem to change its forme . . . *wishful thinking meter going crazy* . . .)

 

[Sponge]

...what?

I'm selfish because I, a potential Pokemon Black player, would choose to save time by getting Pokemon over the GTS instead of raising them my own in Pokemon White? Are you freaking kidding me?

That's not selfish in the slightest. Not wanting to waste time training countless Pokemon is not selfish, and getting Pokemon my own way--over the GTS followed by breeding--is not selfish either. I'm playing my own way, and there's nothing wrong with that. You're essentially saying anyone who picks Pokemon Black version--hell, anyone who doesn't pick White Version--is being selfish in some way. That's ludicrous.

Besides, Pokemon White players rely on Pokemon Black players to get the different wild Pokemon in the first place. The interaction between Black and White is not a parasitic one, as you are describing it to be. They go hand in hand. :/

I think he meant something more along the lines of, if everybody thought like you. There would be no Pokemon White players and no way to get the pokemon you were looking for. Selfish probably wasn't the right word to use...

To be fair though, Black players will end up relying on White players that little bit more considering the extra 30 or so pokemon that can only be caught in white. I wouldn't call it parasitic either but it's there and you can't deny it.