Yeah; Team Rocket and the fillers are things I didn't like for this series, and I felt that the gap between gyms 7 and 8 was far too long. I also would have preferred it to be shorter so that there could have been another battle frontier mini-season
Oh definitely! Even though DP is my favorite series the gap between the last two Gyms and the constant fillers are glaring flaws
I really understand that some want that the next series is like DP, but wouldn't that be an exact copy? I mean XY is compared to DP, but they have different flaws and good points. Sword and Shield just have to have an unique storyline and not another "fire starter who has a sad backstory" or a friendly rival. If you think about it AG and Jotho was the only series where the starter Ash chose, didn't have a sad backstory, not like Charmander, Chimchar, Tepig, Froakie and Litten. Give Ash a shy pokémon instead or a personality Ash hasn't work with yet.
Well being like another series doesn’t mean you have to be a carbon copy and I feel people say that when they want specific elements of a series to be implemented (Battles, character interaction, continuity, captures etc). The fire starter having a sad backstory is admittedly a weird constant but it helps the audience feel for the character so when they develop, you can feel proud of their strength both physically and emotionally (still why is it mostly Fire starters? Are they trying to replicate Charizard’s popularity? Is it a literal “Small ember turns into a burning passion ” story?) Ash has always had friendly rivals as Pokèmon tends to spread a positive sense of rivalry, competition, and sportsmanship mostly. Ash has had shy Pokèmon before: Larvitar (even if it wasn’t official), Chimchar, and Goodra but he could use another
I mean the series
Lyra wasn't in DPPt, the Battle Frontier wasn't included, Ash's and Brock's outfits doesn't really expand on the game's lore and the three movies took place in more original stories. Even with all those things you say, not enough to justify the DP anime series as a good adaptation of the games. If anything a few of those points you mentioned only justifies that the anime series does things better when it doesn't follow the games.
HGSS was apart of generation 4. The anime is suppose to focus on current games, so it's relevant. Palmer was mentioned to be apart of the Battle Frontier in the anime, Ash and Brock clearly changed into their Snowpoint outfits to reference the new Platinum games. Like I said the story of Generation 4 isn't exactly heavy. Cyrus still used the lake trio and box legendaries for his goal. I'm not understanding what else more you wanted adapted when it's not like gen 4 was a plot centric game?
I mean does a anime have to follow to games?
Again, Lyra was from HGSS, not DPPt. I'm talking about a DPPt adaptation, not an adaptation that represents all of Gen 4, so it does actually go against your argument if your still insistent that DPPt anime series is faithful to the DPPt games, not Gen 4 as a whole. As for the Sinnoh Battle Frontier, being mentioned isn't enough. We have to actually see it. Finally, as for Cyrus... hmm... let's just say most Pokemon fans I know can agree he could use some more screen time. As for what more can I want from an adaptation of the DPPt games? Well lol. Let's just say you have no idea how much your missing out on lol. I'm not being rude but my words are sincere. The list of reasons you mentioned are but only a small fraction of what Sinnoh has to offer in the games.
That's part of my point. The DPPt series is poor adaptation of the games but fans love it mostly because it does it's own original thing rather than expanding upon the source material.
XY did the same and I don't hear any complaints about that. People are praising the Team Flare arc.
Well I guess the debate is done then. I've played the games several times (mostly Platinum) and I can wholeheartedly say they have nothing going for them story wise. In fact next to Kanto they have the most lackluster story. I'm not sure what you were expected to be adapted (since the question was kind of dodged) but I personally was okay with what was showcased.
a part, that was just me not paying attention to my grammar :/
Actually I'd say the XY anime series expanded upon the XY games quite well but that's only because unlike the DPPt game which is heavy on lore and has more story, the XY games itself were pretty light on story and lore. As for Team Flare... it's alright, it could be better though.
You were asking what I mean by an adaptation? Didn't hear that clearly but what I seek for in an Pokemon adaptation is a fine line between creative liberties and faithfully expanding upon the lore and story of that particular region while maintaining what people love about that particular aspect of the games and in my unpopular opinion, the DPPt series has mostly failed in this area. For example, Cyrus right? You said there's not much story there of Cyrus in the games and you said Cyrus's appearance in the anime justifies your opinion but what if I said that Cyrus is a great example of what's wrong with the DPPt series? For most Pokemon fans I know, the anime's depiction of Cyrus was the worst depiction of Cyrus for the simple fact that the anime did very little with his character and thus we know very little about him. The games explain who he was and the Pokemon Adventures manga explored his nihilistic character even further. To sum it up, both the games and Adventures take on Cyrus clearly depict him as a nihilist right but what about the anime? We know very little about him, his character is very rare explored and his philosophy is so vague that would it even be right to call this Cyrus a nihilist? His nihilism to be frank is almost never mentioned. Perhaps someone who played the games may come to the conclusion that he's a nihilist but what about someone who only watches the anime and has never touched the games? They wouldn't understand who Cyrus is as a character from the games based on the anime alone because the anime failed to show why people love this character so much. Do you understand what I'm saying now that I've explained it a bit more thoroughly.
