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The Water Flowers of Cerulean City! (007)

mifune

Well-Known Member
Here we go again, Ash gets a second badge, and he hasn't won either one, they were both given to him.
As for Brock, well the brother needed some love, so he went down to the docks, where of course he could find himself a beautiful escort for the night. ;)
 

(s.i.e)

★skydragon★
i liked the episode when i saw it a few years ago but i forgot what the moveset is of ash's pikachu was, does someone know maybe?
 

Tadashi

kiss my greens
Nobody mentioned the James quote? "It's times like these that make we want to go straight" That's hilarious.

I think James meant "straight" in the sense that he wanted to stop being a criminal and lead a regular life.

Though there's no denying the double entendre here ;D

Personally, this is a favorite of mine. I think Ash and Misty's battle was criminally short (damnit, Team Rocket), but this episode taught me the valuable lesson that water conducts electricity :D It's fun to say that I learned all about electricity conductors from Pokémon ;D

Great ep, definitely a classic.
 

HoennMaster

Well-Known Member
People are also dumb and assume that.
 

Sonic Boom

@JohanSSB4 Twitter
People are also dumb and assume that.

Which is wierd because there was no indications in any of the episodes before this one that James could be gay.

One of my favorite episodes, but the Ash vs. Misty should have been longer, and I also learned about the electric-water relationship in this episode. Take that, Junior High!

One thing I never figured out though: when Team Rocket was sent blasting off from that water vacuum, there were sent up into the sky, but when Seel was sucked up, it was conveniently placed right next to it. Am I missing something, perhaps a dub edit, or is it just the attitude of the writers to not think too hard?
 

flyboy1308

Coming Ta Town
Ah, the nostalgia. I remember learning about electricity in third grade and shouting out "Water conducts electricity!!" because of this.

But yeah, even when I was little and I had only seen like two episodes I was like "where did Brock go?"
 

dagon22

Charmander master!
This was one of my favorite episodes. To bad pikachu didn't fight. He would have won. I think Ash would have won if Team Rocket hadn't interupted the match. It is funny to think of where Brock went. Maybe he wanted to appear mature before Ash and Misty, since this was his first time traveling. However, after a ton of girls saying no, he got desperate.

And not to be off topic, but with this post, I now have the Misty badge thing!
 

PenguinBeam

Wish. Hope. Believe.
This was a great episode, in my opinion. Pikachu was so adorable when it refused to fight Misty. Poor Ash...He could have won easily if Pikachu hadn't been such good friends with Misty!:D

I hated the fact that Ash got the badge without really earning it...Of course, you would have had to expect it from the Sensational Sisters; after all, they were going to give it to him without even starting a battle.
 

Blue Snover

Cold as ice
I'm not a big fan of Misty's sisters, i think they're too full of themselves.

It would have been nice if Seel had been able to battle though.
 

daveshan

My little friend
I'm quite surprised no one has yet to talk about the abundance of symbolism in this episode. To me, this episode shows not only what pokemon could have been, but also what how great Misty is and why she deserves to end up with Ash more than the other girls.

The episode began with what appeared to be Misty running from her past/real life in Cerulean City. In fact, she is so adamant about it that, when Ash and Brock continue to ignore her, she leaves the group, at least temporarily.

Once inside the city, while Ash is uncertain as to why Misty left, Brock is repeatedly dropping subtle hints that he knows she's a gym leader in Cerulean and can even see into why Misty doesn't want to come back. This is evident by the scene where Ash asks Brock for advice about the gym leader, Brock mentions that he knows the leader's "special move," but won't tell out of respect. A respect that he has yet to show to any other gym leader that Ash has gone up against. The clincher to this is those golden lines that no one seems to understand. Just before Ash goes to the gym, where Brock knows he'll see Misty, he says:

Brock: "Well... I have some stuff I need to go check out."

Ash: "What stuff?"

Brock: "Just... stuff. See ya later."

Anyone that's hit puberty should have known exactly what Brock was doing. I'll put this from a guy's POV. Guy A and Guy B are hanging out somewhere. Suddenly, Guy B sees Girl 1 walking over to them. Knowing that A and 1 have an unsatisfied romantic interest in each other, what does he do? He says, "Hey, 1, listen. I've got [wink]something I need to do.[/wink] So, I'll see you later."

Arriving at the gym, Ash is treated to a show of three beautiful young women who perform graceful aerobics, receive shouts of praise for their beauty from the audience, and are clearly rich enough to afford an entire aquarium in their home/gym. However, after a quick exchange of dialogue, these three beautiful lasses turn out to be bimbo airheads who use their sex appeal more than their battling skills to get the things they have.

Keep the sex appeal v gym battling skills in mind because here's where the heavy symbolism comes in.

Ash makes an open challenge to any one of them for a battle, which is a process that any "trainer" must go through to earn the ultimate reward from them, a "gym badge." What they tell him is how the other three Pallet trainers already came in, "challenged" them, and won their "gym badges" like it was nothing. Basically, the girls see themselves as so pathetic they are willing to give him a "gym badge" without requiring him to do anything at all.

Don't believe me? Watch it again and pay attention to the blonde sister during this scene.

Blonde sister: (In a seductive voice) "I know what you want." (Holds up badge, which looks an awful lot like a certain part of a female's body) "A cascade badge. This is what you want, right? You can have it."

Ash: (A little taken back) "Thanks... uh... I'd rather earn my badges."

Blonde sister: "Take it. A badge is a badge."

As the music drops to a low tone, Ash reluctantly is ready to accept it and in doing so, give up a lot of the morals that he has held so highly. But, just then, just when Ash is about to accept the easiest "gym badge" he'll ever get from a beautiful girl, Misty takes a stand and stops him (Yay, Misty)! Clearly, she was there this whole time, hidden from sight and fully aware of what was happening. However, it wasn't until right when Ash would have forever shamed himself by taking a "gym badge" so easily does she swallow her pride and say she's a gym leader in Cerulean.

It's here that we see the real reason she didn't want to come back. Yes, she made that vow that she wouldn't return until she was a master water pokemon trainer, but, if it really were as simple as that, she could have just told Ash and Brock and waited for them outside the city. After all, she seems to not care at all about that vow until her sisters put her on the spot for it. In reality, she didn't want to come back because she didn't want Ash to know that she was related to girls who would give up "gym badges" that easily and have him start thinking she was that kind of girl. She was even willing to not let Ash get the badge at all.

However, once she saw that his internal struggle would have wound up with him taking it for nothing, she knew she had to reveal who she was, believing that it was better for him to see her as an "easy gym battle" than for him to actually have the easiest.

But the symbolism doesn't end there, folks. Skipping over some mock dialogue where her sisters state that she and Ash are boyfriend and girlfriend, Misty's first statement upon being in the ring with him are:
"I wasn't planning on challenging you 'til you payed me back for my bike, but this is as good a time as any! If you want that cascade badge, you're going to have to beat me!" Basically, she's driving it home to Ash that, even though you might get this "gym badge" by defeating me in an actual battle, it still means nothing until you've made amends to me.

Cockily, Ash shoots a generic taunt back at her and turns to Pikachu, believing that, with his help, it will be a piece of cake. However, Pikachu's plans are different, the little yellow rat absolutely refuses to fight. Turning what Ash thinks will be a victory he can just easily power towards into one he honestly has to work at, concentrate on, and give his all through good moments and bad ones.

The fight has them bickering like a couple and TR's vacuum tube that sucks up the water was so full of phallic imagery, it's a wonder how it was aired at all.

Once the fight is over, Brock reappears and asks Ash, "Hey, man, how'd it go?" Which is obvious guy code for: "Did you get any?" Ash replies with flashing the cascade badge and the show ends with him and Misty arguing over if he really deserved it at all.
 

Slowking[George]

#SPP-WiFi HOP
Once inside the city, while Ash is uncertain as to why Misty left, Brock is repeatedly dropping subtle hints that he knows she's a gym leader in Cerulean and can even see into why Misty doesn't want to come back. This is evident by the scene where Ash asks Brock for advice about the gym leader, Brock mentions that he knows the leader's "special move," but won't tell out of respect. A respect that he has yet to show to any other gym leader that Ash has gone up against. The clincher to this is those golden lines that no one seems to understand. Just before Ash goes to the gym, where Brock knows he'll see Misty, he says:

Brock: "Well... I have some stuff I need to go check out."

Ash: "What stuff?"

Brock: "Just... stuff. See ya later."

Anyone that's hit puberty should have known exactly what Brock was doing. I'll put this from a guy's POV. Guy A and Guy B are hanging out somewhere. Suddenly, Guy B sees Girl 1 walking over to them. Knowing that A and 1 have an unsatisfied romantic interest in each other, what does he do? He says, "Hey, 1, listen. I've got [wink]something I need to do.[/wink] So, I'll see you later."

The fight has them bickering like a couple and TR's vacuum tube that sucks up the water was so full of phallic imagery, it's a wonder how it was aired at all.

Once the fight is over, Brock reappears and asks Ash, "Hey, man, how'd it go?" Which is obvious guy code for: "Did you get any?" Ash replies with flashing the cascade badge and the show ends with him and Misty arguing over if he really deserved it at all.

Indeed the TR vacuum tube made me lol so hard. As for the "Brock wanted to leave the loving couple alone", I don't believe that's why he left them alone, since this is just the 7th episode of the season. He just left them alone because he didn't want to accidentally tell Ash who the Gym Leader was.
 

bulb182

Member
I wish the Ash VS Misty battle went on into the next episode

The shortness of the battle made misty and her pokemon look like pushovers. I also think that Starmie should have had some better moves...

I mean, she's suposed to be a Gym Leader for crying out loud!
 

milenadrg

Well-Known Member
Interesting episode. It was nice seeing battle between Ash and Misty... I liked the part when Ash and Brock met Officer Jenny, too...
 

STICKTOPIA

Well-Known Member
im just mad how pikachu refused to battle.... it would have done great. this makes me want to re-watch the episode.
 

glowing_light010

•chℓoε•
Since I have a love for water Pokemon, I liked this episode. Although I wish Ash would've won his battle for real this time instead of under a technicality :/ I did like the Ash/Misty battle though, it gave Misty a chance to show her true potential. I honestly think Misty would've won if Team Rocket didn't interrupt everything in be a nuisance >:/

I give this episode a:
6.4/10
 

porygon69

Well-Known Member
the interesting part about this episode is when ash was checking out the aquarium and he saw REAL LIFE FISH INSTEAD OF FISH POKEMON?!

i'm sure if finneon was around back then, they could have used it instead
 
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