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Things that don’t make sense by Pokemon standards

Discussion in 'General Pokémon Discussion' started by pokemon trainer mystery, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. Bguy7

    Bguy7 The Dragon Lord

    Here's the thing. I'm not saying that there is absolutely a government in the Pokémon world. It is fully possible that there is not. All I'm trying to say is that an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You're 100% right in saying that there's no way we could know for sure. I've just been trying to point out that you can't argue that there is no government in the world of Pokémon when there's no evidence of that being the case. You're welcome to interpret things like that, but you can't really assert those interpretations.
     
  2. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    I thought you were trying to assert your points over mine but at least we've come to a good conclusion. I initially referred to canonical evidence that there is no regional government in the Pokémon world, rather than evidence as a whole itself. My point was 'there is no evidence for absence'. Really there's no point proving that it either exists or not.
     
  3. Luthor

    Luthor Well-Known Member

    Why Morty doesn't use a Misdreavus in gen 2 gold and silver. It was a new Ghost-type and yet Morty used a team of entirely Gastly and it's evolutions. Surely this was the time to show off the new Ghost type.
     
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  4. NovaBrunswick

    NovaBrunswick Canada Connoisseur

    When Gen 2 first came out, there weren’t many Ghost types - counting Gastly and its evolutions and Misdreavus, there were only four Ghost types. I think Morty has a Mismagius in HG/SS, however.
     
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  5. Captain Jigglypuff

    Captain Jigglypuff Leader of Jigglypuff Army Staff Member

    Only in rematches.
     
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  6. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    Well Misdreavus was the only one that was introduced as there were only four Ghost-types at that time. So they didn’t have much choice and still it made sense.
     
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  7. Luthor

    Luthor Well-Known Member

    Yeah I get what you mean. I have no issue him using the Gastly line (especially given limited choices) but considering they gave him a team of 4 you'd think his team would be Gastly, Haunter, Misdreavus and Gengar rather than Gastly, Haunter, Haunter and Gengar. Like you say at least his rematches in the remakes gave him more diversity.
     
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  8. M.P.

    M.P. Retired

    I have a similar issue with Pryce: while he does use a Gen 2 Pokemon, it baffles me that they gave him Seel, a non-Ice type, over the likes of Sneasel, Delibird and Smoochum.

    Though it's even more baffling that Falkner and Bugsy use only Gen 1 Pokemon when there were plenty of Flying and Bug types available in Gen 2.
     
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  9. NovaBrunswick

    NovaBrunswick Canada Connoisseur

    HG/SS kind of corrected most of those issues by giving the Gym Leaders Pokémon from all (then) four generations.

    Also, in FR/LG, you couldn’t get Johto Pokémon before the E4, even thought Johto is right next to Kanto. I know FR/LG are remakes of the original Gen 1 games so Johto wasn’t in the latter, but by then Hoenn existed. :confused:

    Seel IS an Ice-type. Or maybe you're thinking of Dewgong?
     
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  10. M.P.

    M.P. Retired

    Indeed it did, though only in rematches. But I can somewhat understand why they didn't want to alter the original gym teams in the remakes.

    The evolutions and pre-evos for Gen 1 Pokemon should've been available pre-E4, at least. It's especially weird with Pokemon that evolve by max happiness: I mean, are they implying my Golbat doesn't want to be friends with me unless I'm the region champion?

    No, Seel is pure Water and Dewgong is Water/Ice.
     
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  11. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    Maybe they wanted the games to stay more true to the originals even though it clearly wasn’t the case in HGSS. I would have liked access to these Pokémon anyway.
     
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  12. M.P.

    M.P. Retired

    Yes, that's most likely the reason why they weren't available before E4. I'm glad they chose to make the cross-gen evos available pre-E4 in later remakes (sans Let's Go), at least.
     
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  13. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    Still bummed out why the stones for the Gen 4 evos in HGSS weren’t available until the postgame like the Shiny Stone for Togekiss. Still it was great that at least the level up evos were available but it didn’t feel like it completely made sense especially for the stone evos and the Eeveelutions.
     
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  14. Captain Jigglypuff

    Captain Jigglypuff Leader of Jigglypuff Army Staff Member

    Here’s a really odd thing. Inside Cerulean Cave in LGPE, you can find respawning Master Balls. Question is who made them and put them inside the cave? Did Mewtwo clone them? It is stated by the Silph Co president himself that there is only one Master Ball in existence when he gives it to you and that it is a prototype.
     
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  15. TheTrueRman

    TheTrueRman Amateur Breeder and Legend Collector

    Though about this before but, wouldn't steel type be vulnerable to electric?

    Solgaleo is pkmn of the Sun, vulnerable to Fire Attacks

    How is Gyarados and Charizard not Dragon type

    Wouldn't it make sense for Floorgess to be Fairy/Grass

    my apologies if some of these were already quoted
     
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  16. NovaBrunswick

    NovaBrunswick Canada Connoisseur

    A similar thing: why does the move Frustration exist? Why would you hate your Pokémon so much to make them stronger? o_O

    • Solgaleo isn’t a personification of the sun, it’s merely just an emissary of sunlight. Same with Lunala, who only emits moonlight.
    • Gyarados and Charizard aren’t Dragon-types because the Dragon type was added very late in Red/Blue’s development, and the only Dragon-type move in Gen 1 was Dragon Rage, which always deals 40 HP damage. Mega Charizard X does become Fire/Dragon type, however.
    • Florges is a fairy attaching itself to a flower. It’s not part of the flower.
    I also thought a similar thing with Dhelmise: why is it a Ghost/Grass type instead of a Water/Steel type? It’s an anchor, and it lives in the sea. :confused:
     
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  17. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    I think it’s more or so their inner hatred that arises from a lack of friendship with its Trainer makes the move more powerful. If they’re more angry from that way, then I expect them to be more frustrated which in turn boosts the power of this attack.
     
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  18. TheTrueRman

    TheTrueRman Amateur Breeder and Legend Collector

    Florges final form seemed to fuse it with the flower. Making it fairy/grass would make sense.
    And yeah Dhelmise, being Steel/Ghost type and knows water moves or water abilities would make more sense
     
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  19. Prof. SALTY

    Prof. SALTY The Scruffy Professor

    Yeah Dhelmise is the moss, not the anchor. I thought that was really neat.
     
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  20. NovaBrunswick

    NovaBrunswick Canada Connoisseur

    I think it’s seaweed, not moss.
     
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