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Things that don’t make sense by Pokemon standards

Discussion in 'General Pokémon Discussion' started by pokemon trainer mystery, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. NovaBrunswick

    NovaBrunswick Canada Connoisseur

    In later gens, Pikachu can learn Iron Tail to deal with Rock types, and Ash’s Pikachu did.
     
  2. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    Actually that's what kind of funny and makes even more less sense. Pikachu learned Iron Tail before his fight with Roxanne and while Pikachu does use it, he ultimately finishes off Geodude, a ground-type, with thunderbolt of all moves. We would see this again with Roark where he actually finishes off Onix with Iron Tail however before that, Pikachu somehow did severe damage to Onix with Thunderbolt. What's funny about this is that because of the freedom that Gen 3 offered, the anime crew actually didn't have to do any of that thunder-beats-ground-type plot armor anymore. They had a lot of freedom with Gen 3 and even gave Pikachu Iron Tail very early on before the first Gym Leader and for some unexplainable reason, thunderbolt beats ground-type up to Gen 4. It makes you wonder if the anime crew had little interest in how the battles went down during those generations.
     
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  3. Bguy7

    Bguy7 The Dragon Lord

    They had the exact same end effect and are conceptually the same. They are different things, but certainly not completely different.

    Or maybe things just weren't done in a way to take advantage of this weakness. And really, we can't expect Generations to follow a precedent set by the anime, so that example hardly matters in this context.

    It may be, but "plot armor" doesn't automatically need to be nonsensical.
     
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  4. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

    1. Which is actually my point why it's plot armor. It shouldn't be able to mimic the properties of soak no matter what. It breaks Pokemon's "science" or it's "magic system".
    2. Nope. Examples from other universes matter too as each one of them try to make logical sense out of the "science" or "magic system" of Pokemon. It only gets really interesting if two different accepted universes offer their own explanations of how things work that conflict each other and it's never really reach that point as GameFreak often offers notes to many of the teams behind the many adaptations. Here, this is just game-breaking all around. Even if you disagree, there is still the matter of how the anime further makes the "sprinkler makes Onix conductive" effect questionable in how the episode where Rhydon is immune to electricity even after swimming in the lake or how Pikachu is supposedly simply skilled enough to severely damage Roark's Onix with thunderbolt without a sprinkler.
    3. In the end, it shouldn't be mimicking the properties of soak at all, especially considering that the anime has made comparisons that there is a difference between the actual moves and attempting to substitute actual moves, like Ash & Treecko practicing bullet seed with watermelon seeds for example. Although Treecko used it as a way to learn bullet seed, the watermelon seeds had no real power or weight like the actual bullet seeds. Similarly here, the sprinkling water shouldn't be able to make Onix conductive to electricity at all.
     
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  5. NovaBrunswick

    NovaBrunswick Canada Connoisseur

    As someone said previously, battles in the anime are much more fluid and realistic than in the games.
     
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  6. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria Shiny hunter

    They’re not confined by technical limitations unlike game battles. Overall anime battles aren’t as confined as game battles. I think that explains why things don’t seem to make sense in anime battles.
     
  7. RedJirachi

    RedJirachi Veteran member

    Ferroseed, Ferrothorn, Oranguru: Can't learn Attract, makes sense they're spiky and nobody wants to get close. Oranguru is a hermit guru, it's celibate so OK it can't
    Tynamo, Wynaut, Wobbuffet, Spewpa, Kricketot: Can't learn Attract, makes sense because they're supposed to be move limited
    Nincada: Can't learn Attract. One possible evolution is genderless Shedinja, makes sense they can't learn Attract so Shedinja doesn't
    Larvesta, Volcarona: An atlas moth, can't learn Attract, wait why?
    Mew: No gender, space fetus. Can learn Attract, OK it can learn every move so keep up the gimmick
    Cryogonal, Dhelmise and Minior: No gender, inanimate object/meteor, Can learn Attract, does nothing because they have no gender. Why?!
     

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