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Things that grind your gears!

LucarioIsMegaEvolving

A single misplaced step
Sure, but having bad rewards, imo, isn't going to help with driving people to said competition. We went from reward Pokemon at times to 50 battle points per battle. It's not worth the work and the effort for some people, given how long it can take to breed a good team.
I think Game Freak should make it easier to make competitively viable teams, or to make your team competitively viable. I feel like they're working towards this, with stuff like the bottle caps and nature vitamins in Sword/Shield, but the whole EV/IV system being completely dictated by chance just makes it not worth the effort for me. I should mention that I've never tried to breed a competitive team due to feeling discouraged by this, so I could be incorrect in saying that Game Freak's making it easier.
 

Kansas_Rocks!

Awesomeness Trainer
but the whole EV/IV system being completely dictated by chance just makes it not worth the effort for me
I don't understand where you're coming from with this. EVs are not chance at all. You can control them completely. IVs are chance, but the ease of access of bottle caps makes that point moot, especially since Hidden Power isn't important anymore.
 

Reinhardt

Well-Known Member
Max Raid battles in general. I can never find anyone to join me, the timer always runs down to zero with no other players being found, so I always have to do them alone, and the game always pairs me up with the absolute worst NPCs for that particular raid. I just can't do five-star Max Raids at all, they're just too difficult to do alone. The Isle of Armour is especially annoying for this, because I've been trying to gather Max Mushrooms so I can Gigantamax a few of my Pokemon, but even after doing the customary three Max Raids required for the mushrooms to spawn, there have been a few times where no mushrooms have appeared, so it feels like I've put in a lot of time and energy for no reward.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Now that I think about it, I also never got my León Uniform even though I preordered the Pass for both games. I did what you are supposed to do and go to Mystery Gift and select Receive Gift from Online and nothing comes up!
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
Max Raid battles in general. I can never find anyone to join me, the timer always runs down to zero with no other players being found, so I always have to do them alone, and the game always pairs me up with the absolute worst NPCs for that particular raid. I just can't do five-star Max Raids at all, they're just too difficult to do alone. The Isle of Armour is especially annoying for this, because I've been trying to gather Max Mushrooms so I can Gigantamax a few of my Pokemon, but even after doing the customary three Max Raids required for the mushrooms to spawn, there have been a few times where no mushrooms have appeared, so it feels like I've put in a lot of time and energy for no reward.
I have managed to beat a lot of 5 star max raids using only the in-game NPC's but I'll admit most of them are not that helpful and its not really fun. I wish even in the post game you could encounter the 1 star raids occasionally in order to max acquiring max mushrooms easier and I do think the game sometimes goes overboard with the barriers in the max raid battles.
 

LucarioIsMegaEvolving

A single misplaced step
I don't understand where you're coming from with this. EVs are not chance at all. You can control them completely. IVs are chance, but the ease of access of bottle caps makes that point moot, especially since Hidden Power isn't important anymore.
Yeah, you're right. I was mostly thinking of IVs being chance and the fact that just regularly going through the game your Pokémon won't end up EV trained, and level grinding's a pain. While level grinding is lessened by Max Raid battles giving out EXP candy, the fact that I can't do it online makes it so that I don't want to do it much due to the NPCs. Though, the fact that I can't go online also means I can't do competitive against other players so the only thing I'm really grinding for is the Battle Tower, which you need to beat to get Bottle Caps, which you need to have good IVs, which you somewhat need to beat the Battle Tower. Though at this point I can't remember what point I was initially trying to make. Mostly that it's really annoying to do competitive.
 

Ophie

Salingerian Phony
Max Raid battles in general. I can never find anyone to join me, the timer always runs down to zero with no other players being found, so I always have to do them alone, and the game always pairs me up with the absolute worst NPCs for that particular raid. I just can't do five-star Max Raids at all, they're just too difficult to do alone. The Isle of Armour is especially annoying for this, because I've been trying to gather Max Mushrooms so I can Gigantamax a few of my Pokemon, but even after doing the customary three Max Raids required for the mushrooms to spawn, there have been a few times where no mushrooms have appeared, so it feels like I've put in a lot of time and energy for no reward.
There is something very wrong with how Pokémon Sword and Shield connects to other people. I can't really determine what it is, but I find myself able to join other peolpe's Max Raid Battles much easier with certain workarounds. Doing things like setting up a Surprise Trade or doing a Link Code League Card trade seems to "wake up" the game and be more alert to find ongoing Max Raid Battles before time runs out.

Time of day also seems to be important. During afternoons and evenings, in North America, for instance, I can find a lot of people, as well as afternoons and evenings in Japan. Right now though, the novelty of Isle of Armor has mostly worn off, and there aren't quite as many people as there were before...though occasionally, that leads to me finding people more easily. Other games I've played, like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, had netcode that, for some reason, made it easier to find people when fewer people were online. It's hard to predict.

Yeah, you're right. I was mostly thinking of IVs being chance and the fact that just regularly going through the game your Pokémon won't end up EV trained, and level grinding's a pain. While level grinding is lessened by Max Raid battles giving out EXP candy, the fact that I can't do it online makes it so that I don't want to do it much due to the NPCs. Though, the fact that I can't go online also means I can't do competitive against other players so the only thing I'm really grinding for is the Battle Tower, which you need to beat to get Bottle Caps, which you need to have good IVs, which you somewhat need to beat the Battle Tower. Though at this point I can't remember what point I was initially trying to make. Mostly that it's really annoying to do competitive.
Going through the game WILL, in fact, EV-train your Pokémon. You're just going to be training it in pretty much random stats.

I do get what you mean though. It's not like most other games with a competitive scene where you just select your character(s) and you're good to go. There's an insane level of customization in this game that requires you sink a lot of time to get your Pokémon exactly to how you plan them to be, and there aren't many shortcuts short of hacking. It completely baffles most other video games' competitive scenes (and some competitive scenes of games that aren't video games).
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
Good catch on the Max Raids thing. That's happened to me too. And lately, it's gotten harder to find so many open raids.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
Downright lucky. Since those throws are harder to make now.
The bigger the target, the easier the throw. Focus on thicc Pokemon like Wobbuffet or if you live in Australia, Kangaskhan

Speaking of GO, it grinds my gears that these fancy dressed event Pokemon can't evolve. Is it so hard to program Toxicroak with its hat? Another thing to complain is when the evolution to an already existing Pokemon in GO hasn't been released, like Sirfetch'd
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
The bigger the target, the easier the throw. Focus on thicc Pokemon like Wobbuffet or if you live in Australia, Kangaskhan

Speaking of GO, it grinds my gears that these fancy dressed event Pokemon can't evolve. Is it so hard to program Toxicroak with its hat? Another thing to complain is when the evolution to an already existing Pokemon in GO hasn't been released, like Sirfetch'd
Not always the case. They've made the circle so much thinner now, that it's harder to make excellent throws. I've only made one over the last year or so. And even when things were easier, I never was able to make an excellent curveball throw.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Not always the case. They've made the circle so much thinner now, that it's harder to make excellent throws. I've only made one over the last year or so. And even when things were easier, I never was able to make an excellent curveball throw.
Yelp, that's on you mate. I barely play anymore, opened up the game just now, threw curved excellent on the first try on a Skitty and then another first try on a Spearow. It's just a case of knowing what you're doing and seeing/knowing the angles at which you need to throw.

The bigger the target, the easier the throw. Focus on thicc Pokemon like Wobbuffet or if you live in Australia, Kangaskhan

Speaking of GO, it grinds my gears that these fancy dressed event Pokemon can't evolve. Is it so hard to program Toxicroak with its hat? Another thing to complain is when the evolution to an already existing Pokemon in GO hasn't been released, like Sirfetch'd
What grinds my gears is Niantic's greed with all these hats and costumes. Why do they need Smoochum, Shinx and a Croagunk to have a new shiny form - and especially one that's raid only. MONEY. Smoochum and Croagunk would be fine, but they need to make money and make a stupid tophat Shinx so people will spend money on the game. Guess what Niantic, it's 2020 and we've got better ways in which we need to spend money then a yellow Shinx with a tophat that can't even evolve.

Can't wait for Halloween when we'll get the same crap again but with starters and gimmicky outfits.
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
Regarding PoGo I'm a nearly full F2P. Only spend very little (probably around less than 2 or 3 american dollars) when I was starting out for a specific event. But it's been over one year where I'm full F2P, only farming coins on gyms and stuff.

But I do admit I like the Shinx event and have been doing the raids. Yeah, it's just Shinx with a hat and uncapable of evolution but... more chances to get the beautiful Shiny Shinx. Can't turn that off. It's the one shiny I'm crazy about.

Good thing I've saved over 2k coins. Will use the free raid passes from today for more raids

Also, I probably said that on this thread already but... Niantic picking community days through twitter and thus making them all Kanto pandering really irritates me.

I want that freaking community day for Shinx. The fact we haven't had one grinds my gears. I'll walk for over as long as this event lasts so I can get that beautiful shiny.
 

Akashin

Well-Known Member
What grinds my gears is Niantic's greed with all these hats and costumes. Why do they need Smoochum, Shinx and a Croagunk to have a new shiny form - and especially one that's raid only. MONEY. Smoochum and Croagunk would be fine, but they need to make money and make a stupid tophat Shinx so people will spend money on the game. Guess what Niantic, it's 2020 and we've got better ways in which we need to spend money then a yellow Shinx with a tophat that can't even evolve.

Can't wait for Halloween when we'll get the same crap again but with starters and gimmicky outfits.
I don't really understand. Companies create content for the sake of making money; so what? Why is this gear grinding? If people are interested in something, they may or may not spend money on it. If they aren't, they won't. What would be the non-greedy version of this scenario, exactly?
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
Yelp, that's on you mate. I barely play anymore, opened up the game just now, threw curved excellent on the first try on a Skitty and then another first try on a Spearow. It's just a case of knowing what you're doing and seeing/knowing the angles at which you need to throw.



What grinds my gears is Niantic's greed with all these hats and costumes. Why do they need Smoochum, Shinx and a Croagunk to have a new shiny form - and especially one that's raid only. MONEY. Smoochum and Croagunk would be fine, but they need to make money and make a stupid tophat Shinx so people will spend money on the game. Guess what Niantic, it's 2020 and we've got better ways in which we need to spend money then a yellow Shinx with a tophat that can't even evolve.

Can't wait for Halloween when we'll get the same crap again but with starters and gimmicky outfits.
And that's called luck. I don't have the money to spend on countless Pokeballs to try to throw an excellent curveball. Watched some videos and practiced using the technique they mentioned, but the balls usually go way off to the side. To me, it's a waste of time, as trying to do it, ends up wasting Pokeballs.
 

Monox D. I-Fly

Well-Known Member
But I do admit I like the Shinx event and have been doing the raids. Yeah, it's just Shinx with a hat and uncapable of evolution but... more chances to get the beautiful Shiny Shinx. Can't turn that off. It's the one shiny I'm crazy about.
For Event Shiny, I try to get them just because they make for a good bargaining chip to trade with a regular shiny I don't have.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
Red and Blue are on the 3DS eshop, but they are not in colour.
Really sad.
What color? They're the way I remember playing them.
 

Orphalesion

Well-Known Member
What color? They're the way I remember playing them.
On the gameboy colour Pokemon blue was mostly blue with some elements being red, while Pokemon Red was mostly red with some green elements.
And if you played on that adapter thing that allowed you to play gameboy games on the Super Nintendo then Pokemon Red/Blue had the same amount of colour as Pokemon Yellow (iirc) meaning, all Pokemon spirtes had a unique colour, the towns had a unique colour each, the routes were green etc.
 
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