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Things you are mad at that the anime didn’t do/take advantage of
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SerGoldenhandtheJust
Deluded Dreamer
I still think it should be included when talking about the Alola league considering it was the culmination of said arc. It's clearly meant to be that way by the narrative, and meant to be the finale battle of the series. Idk why people have a prob with that being included.
RafaSceptile
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Because Ash VS Kukui not being included means more arguments for saying that the Alola League is Bad.
Anyways, for a narrarive perspective, it's extremely obvious that the Exhibition Match is part of the League.
Kuzehiko
That moment I found a lifetime treasure
I mean I'd understand had Kukui been a fixed opponent in the AL final instead of Gladion just like Serena vs Aria in the Gloire city showcase then yes Kukui would have been an opponent in the League but that's not the case here. The league ended in the final and the exhibition match was just a reward for the champion, it can be considered part of the overall league arc and stuff but not of the tournament as such. Anyway to each their own. We've already gone off-topic so badly lol.
Not really. You could very easily justify it that he's doing it for the sake of the Tauros as a few of them want to be traded as the herd was too big.
It was a perfect opportunity.
What I thought was a missed opportunity was the entire Magearna thing. Why introduce it so late and only have it activate at the tail end of the Alola series.
Truthfully the mythicals were pretty underused as a whole in SM. Melmetal at least got an okay run despite appearing late, but Naganadel only got some noteworthy involvement during its return cameo, and Shaymin and Magearna barely got to do anything. Even Nebby kinda got screwed over.
I don't mind them not being overhyped scene stealers or anything, keeping them in laid back roles was a good way of easing them in, but they should have still got to do more in terms of standard Pokemon involvement. I don't mind if the fact Lillie and Mallow have mythicals is barely brought up, just let them do something with their secondary Pokemon.
It especially stood out when Kiawe and Sophocles' secondaries, despite being far more common species, felt way better utilised and integral to their development as trainers. I was hoping the girls would get a similar boost when they caught their second Pokemon, only for them all to barely do anything with them.
I don't mind them not being overhyped scene stealers or anything, keeping them in laid back roles was a good way of easing them in, but they should have still got to do more in terms of standard Pokemon involvement. I don't mind if the fact Lillie and Mallow have mythicals is barely brought up, just let them do something with their secondary Pokemon.
It especially stood out when Kiawe and Sophocles' secondaries, despite being far more common species, felt way better utilised and integral to their development as trainers. I was hoping the girls would get a similar boost when they caught their second Pokemon, only for them all to barely do anything with them.
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Ragnarok4
2024
> La pobre continuidad
> Que todo lo que lograron en sinnoh se descarta (enfócate en la elite 4 y la liga de campeones, concursos)
> La absurda costumbre de olvidar a los protagonistas anteriores, es increíble que hace más de 10 años no vimos a May (un personaje tan bien construido), ni siquiera con la oportunidad de los remakes de Hoenn. (I really wanted Max to appear at some point with Ralts)
> BW Ash
> GS Ball
> Que todo lo que lograron en sinnoh se descarta (enfócate en la elite 4 y la liga de campeones, concursos)
> La absurda costumbre de olvidar a los protagonistas anteriores, es increíble que hace más de 10 años no vimos a May (un personaje tan bien construido), ni siquiera con la oportunidad de los remakes de Hoenn. (I really wanted Max to appear at some point with Ralts)
> BW Ash
> GS Ball
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Ragnarok4
2024
Narratively it may be your opinion that Guzmán is better than Katy, but competitively for me Kat is much better, at least it was 6 vs 6 and not 2 vs 2 (IN A SEMIFINAL !!! WTF). The gladio thing also disappointed me a lot, it is a very forgettable battle ... vs Kukui is the really impressive thing in the Alola League
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RafaSceptile
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Katie couldn't defeat one of the weakest Ash's teams at that point in the anime, the same team that almost lost against Morrison. At least Guzma lost against Torracat (who defeated Kukui's Incineroar) and SM Pikachu, both very strong Pokémon.
It seemed like they gave all the SM girls 'special' Pokemon to make up for taking so long to get their secondaries, but the problem is they still didn't do much at all with them. I mean it was cute Tsareena and Popplio had someone to interact with at last but they didn't get to do a whole lot relevant to the girls' development as trainers, or in the case of Magearna, appeared too late to do anything with anyway.
It's a shame really because I think the secondary captures were most exciting in SM because of the transformative moments they happened and how more strongly characterised the actual teams were. Marowak and Charjabug both signified Kiawe and Sophocles becoming more proactive trainers and Turtonator and Togedemaru feeling more realised as foils. Shaymin and Magearna still sort of symbolised a similar transformative point with Mallow and Lillie, but they didn't really play a big role in that themselves, and while Tsareena and Popplio did get a bit more personality off of Shaymin and Sandy, it was a bit late for them to build up lots of fun character moments like the others.
It's a shame really because I think the secondary captures were most exciting in SM because of the transformative moments they happened and how more strongly characterised the actual teams were. Marowak and Charjabug both signified Kiawe and Sophocles becoming more proactive trainers and Turtonator and Togedemaru feeling more realised as foils. Shaymin and Magearna still sort of symbolised a similar transformative point with Mallow and Lillie, but they didn't really play a big role in that themselves, and while Tsareena and Popplio did get a bit more personality off of Shaymin and Sandy, it was a bit late for them to build up lots of fun character moments like the others.
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AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
A hell lot of the inconceivable dex entry facts.
SerenaRulez
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The girls all deserved more Pokemon not just counting Shaymin and Magearna. Since they fought at the Alola League they should have had more Pokemon to choose from when they battled. Lana not getting Dewpider was a big missed chance.
thedarkdragon11
P4P Elite
Team Rainbow Rocket, AZ, Chatelaines, the unintroduced E4s and Gen. 4 FBs... GS Ball, Evil Malamar, Dia, Goodshow, Wallace...
Spider-Phoenix
#ChespinGang
Kinda fanfic-y but... I sort of wish Serena had fought Malva during the Flare arc. She'd lose badly but I like to think she'd put enough effort to finally push Malva into turning against Lysandre
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