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Thoughts on Guile Hideout, an incredibly memorable and "original" villain? (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Manga Discussion' started by shoz999, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. shoz999

    shoz999 ... Don't laugh.


    A incredibly memorable and "original" villain?

    Guile Hideout is an interesting villain of Pokemon Adventures, this identity standing out so much that some fans sometimes separate the identities of Guile Hideout and Archie of Team Aqua when describing the villain of the Emerald Arc even after they reveal who is behind the mask. Sporting a unique knightly design with the most evil-looking Surskuit by his side, he's also one of the best-designed Pokemon villains that fits well in the world of Pokemon. Not only that but some fans thought the lone brutal thief who had the capability to fight powerful Pokemon was even an original villain before it was revealed to be none other than Archie of Team Aqua and even those who wanted Guile Hideout to be an original villain did not shun this reveal but welcomed it, shocked what Archie did to acquire that armor. One could say that Guile Hideout pulled the greatest trick of all in Pokemon, that the person Guile Hideout ever existed.

    For me personally, much like superheroes or super-villains, I'd think it'd be an interesting idea to see a "second" Guile Hideout, someone else who has a dastardly Surskuit to take up the broken armor while no one is looking. But what are your thoughts on such an "original" villain?
  2. mehmeh1

    mehmeh1 Neutral force of Meh

    he was an interesting idea with a very interesting execution, especially as foreshadowing for DP (and I actually liked the other reveal in ORAS where in the end he and Maxie just ended up incorporeal in the distortion world, bringing said connection to gen 4 full circle, and making me wonder where's sird and how did she get all this stuff even more), but I feel they didn't capitalize in his design enough, esepecially the sword, which he doesn't do much with, heck, we should've had sword-wielding surskit at some point, that'd have been amazing. Also, I found his name kinda weird, guile would've been enough, but adding hideout as part of his name was just odd, but I guess it makes sense, as the armor is archie's guile hideout
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  3. shoz999

    shoz999 ... Don't laugh.

    Personally I think the name "Guile Hideout" not only sounded cool but it sounded naturally associated with the character rather than some dubious alias that lots of short names often are, helping Guile Hideout feel more like this original character before his identity was revealed. It's been a while since the Emerald arc though but I do like how his armor and sword functions to combat Pokemon who are these magical powerful creatures that a human with his own natural strength would have a hard time fighting, his armor having the properties of the moves "Reflect" and "Light Screen" taking the brunt of some of the most strongest of Pokemon's attacks and his sword having the properties of "Counter" and "Mirror Coat" which can counter Pokemon moves which is why it was such an ingenius build-up that made so much sense that it turned out that the OP armor also had not just the moves strengths but it's weaknesses as seen through Poliwrath and Politoed using brick break, a move that destroys reflect and light screen, to destroy that OP armor.
  4. ellifeedn

    ellifeedn Thinker

    I wish a dark-type Pokemon using a special move would have destroyed the sword.
  5. shoz999

    shoz999 ... Don't laugh.

    Why a dark-type move?
  6. ellifeedn

    ellifeedn Thinker

    Because Mirror Coat is a Psychic type move that only works with special type attacks and Dark type is immune.
  7. shoz999

    shoz999 ... Don't laugh.

    Oh yeah. I suppose ghost type moves would be immune from Guile Hideout's sword as well.

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