Emperor Empoleon
Honor of Kalos
Huh...Only the first 151 would be odd. Even the 20th Movie featured a sort of modernized Kanto, where trainers ran around with species from other Regions. I figured any future return to Kanto would be like that.
My opinion that LGPE will be part of gen 8 gives off a false vibe and you're fine countering me for my opinion, without any proof either way, but you see no need to counter people that are calling this a Yellow remake? You don't see a conflict there? Calling this a Yellow remake is more of a negative than me thinking it will be gen 8. People are already assuming that Pikachu and Eevee won't be able to evolve, because the Pikachu in Yellow couldn't evolve. We don't even know if this game will be like RBY. But you don't have any desire to correct those opinions?1. You're giving false vibes to anyone who doesn't know about these rumors and some "leaks" who are reading this thread about how this will be Gen 8 and once it comes out, they'd be disappointed in it.Just because you're the only one who has this opinion doesn't mean you're gonna get killed for it. You think this Let's Go is Gen 8. That's fine, we can counter and say it's not.I am not 'attacking' them because they don't say it's Gen 8. They just say it's remake of Yellow and that's it, they don't spread objectively false information around, it's a speculation. Saying it's Gen 8 outright is false, but it's your opinion,which can be wrong but you're not going in jail for it.
If these games are not being developed by Game Freak, they can't be core titles and can't possibly be gen 8. I think you and I agree on that. But if they are being developed by Game Freak, it's not possible for them to be MD, and highly unlikely that they will be deemed spinoff titles. I suppose it's possible that Game Freak would make their own spinoff game, but why? As for Pikachu and Eevee being starters, it seems the most logical outcome, but for all we know they could be in-game gifts or we could already have them when the game starts. There could still be traditional starters to choose from. Not very likely, but again, Game Freak likes to be unpredictable. We got two starters in XY.2.I didn't.. because I don't have time and will to read all comments. I just took part of it what you're saying 1 new Pokemon and new system = new gen which is false and not true.Yes, they're working on core games, but funny nowhere it's stated that those LET'S Go games are core games. These could easily be Mystery Dungeon games.Surely, the only valid thing is Let's Go Eevee and Pikachu which screams a) if new core not new gen because Eevee and Pikachu are obviously starters and b) screams MD type of game.
You're calling your opinion a fact and saying that it disproves mine. Also, Sun and Moon releasing in 2016 has little, if anything, to do with the release of the next games. Game Freak doesn't put all of its eggs in one basket. They have multiple teams working on projects at the same time. They've had a dev kit for the Switch for more than 2 years.3. Fact is it's not Gen 8 and that's final. Gen 8 would come either 2019 or 2020, you understand that SM came out in 2016, if this is new gen, this makes no sense since it's 2 years apart.No way they could've finished it this soon.
This statement is an opinion. You're not proving or disproving anything. You're just stating what you think is better.Also, saying it's a bridge is better and more valid statement then outright saying "it's a gen 8 because of new system/ 1 new Pokemon..
ORAS and XY were able to trade and battle. How is that not connecting?ORAS didn't really connect to XY( part from ME) and it's still Gen 6 and not Gen 7. USUM had new Pokemon that didn't exist in SM and still it's Gen 7. Also, just to say just because there'd be like 3-4 new Pokemon in LGPE,doesn't mean it will be new gen.
I'm actualy starting to think this may be the case. LGPE might be a kickoff for the new generation, with the bigger games coming a year or two from now.True. But, we don't know the difference between creating 700+ 3D models for the 3DS and integrating them to the game under 240p quality, and then the new(?) HD models for 800+. We know that Ohmori's full attention was on Sun and Moon series, so the time constraint might've been difficult to adjust for the remaining core GameFreak staff. As @Akashin said, the leak is coming from the guy who leaked the reliable content about the upcoming titles, and the intended 151 Pokemon could be the result of missing the deadline.
To think about it, if they realized that they cannot meet with the deadline, going for a Kanto project makes sense. Retuning back to the roots, attracting the older fans, an HD Kanto, only 151 and the list goes on. Mine is a theory, of course, but it still is a possibility. For instance, they might've made 600+ designs so far, but not the entire 800, which is why the rest can be released with PokeBank later on and came up with the reboot idea to deliver a Switch game in '18 and boost the console sales. It's not a bad "Killing two birds with one stone." approach.
Don't get me wrong, I never said it was a good idea or that I liked it. I was just trying to reason how it could stick to only the first 151 despite there being well over that number at this point.
Don't worry, I wasn't being nasty towards you. It just might look that way because this rumor/leak/abomination whatever it is now has me really really agitated.
I'm curious to see what everything added to Kanto will be after so much time and a huge upgrade from the last time we saw it like 8 years ago on the DS. I dont want them to change so much to the point where its unrecognizable, but taking advantage of the graphical leap and extra space and hopefully improvements here and there can really stack up and make a fresh experience.
Here's some ideas
Pewter City - I'd love to see the Museum get expanded to include artifacts from other gens, the city itself could be cool if it was more along the mountainside, with different levels of elevation kinda like Cyllage City in XY.
Saffron City - Should get the biggest upgrade this time, to be more like Lumiose/Mauville/Castelia style, it was based on Tokyo after all, so I think this time we'll see it as a sprawling metropolis. Neon lights and signs everywhere, tons of buildings and areas to make it the biggest city we've seen yet.
Celadon City - Like Saffron, but more homely and rustic instead of bright and futuristic. Some Gardens and a park near the gym, Lots of apartments.
Cerulean City - I always thought it should be more "water based", maybe they can turn it into a Canal like city by expanding the River between it and Cerulean Cave.
Lavender Town - Should be creepy af again. Maybe the Radio Tower got haunted again, I'd like to see some fog go through.
Fuchsia City - Take advantage of the Safari Zone and Zoo over the city to make it look like its actually in a Safari/Jungle like setting.
Cinnabar Island - Rebuilt over the course of time, Maybe it can inspiration from the Anime, and become a Resort Island with tons of toursits and hotels over the volcano.
Vermilion City - Lets finally see that building built lol. Aside from that I'd love to see more of a marine theme across the town with Sailors and Boats and Ships along the piers.
Sevii Islands - Really want them to come back, would love to see them get expanded upon with more islands, but I love the variety of locations they brought. The ruins and canyon particularly could have some huge potential if they expand it. They could throw in Battle Facilities or let us Ride Surf from one to another.
Indigo Plateau - 2 ideas! One is something grand like a Palace making it similar to Gym Leader Castle in Stadium, the second is to turn it into an actual modern stadium, similar to the League Tournaments in the Anime, you can have an actual crowd watch your ascent to Champion-hood. I really wanna see the PWT come back, but maybe Vermilion City would be a better place to put that.
How am I not comprehending them? I replied to entire post that you responded to me. I made myself clear that I didn't read your earlier posts since I have a life. Why should I spent 20 minutes reading all your posts? Learn that. LGPE is not part of Gen 8 since it will come before Gen 8. How can something that came before 8 be part of 8? Makes zero sense. Also, it makes no sense that something as insignificant as Yellow 'remakes' to be Gen 8 related while it's not Gen itself. Again making zero sense again.CMButch, I honestly don't think you're reading my entire posts or you're not comprehending them, so I'm going to make my main point first: I think LGPE will be part of gen 8, but I am not so attached to the idea that I can't change my mind when we get more evidence. The most important factor that will determine which generation LGPE belong to is connectivity. How can they be generation 7 if they aren't compatible with the other gen 7 games? ORAS may have had pokemon forms and attacks that XY did not, but you could still battle and trade between them. Pokemon Bank can move pokemon to and from these games multiple times. Everyone considers ORAS to be part of gen 6.
Fine. It wouldn't be Gen 7, it wouldn't be Gen 8 either at all. It'd be standalone. If it does connect to next region with new region and new starters, it still is not Gen 8, since Gen 8 first steps are new region, new starters, new everything. So however you turn it around, LGPE is not Gen 8 at all nor has anything to do with it. I am not talking about predictability of GF I am speaking in facts what is considered to be Gen 8 and what not. LPGE is not.If LGPE can't battle and trade with USUM, it's not part of gen 7. Simple as that. If it turns out LGPE also has no connectivity with the next game to have a new region and a load of new pokemon, I will confidently say it isn't part of gen 8, either. It would truly be a 7.5, or even a stand alone title. However, I'd wager that LGPE will be compatible with whatever game comes after. LGPE could easily be the ORAS of gen 8, just in reverse order; a return to an old region, but part of the next generation due to compatibility. There's no rule that says the old region of a generation has to come after the new region of the generation. Game Freak is not predictable anymore.
How is calling this a Yellow remake more negative than calling this Gen 8? LPGE starters: Pikachu and Eevee( older gen starters, automatically means it's not Gen 8, likely based on Yellow which is Kanto)My opinion that LGPE will be part of gen 8 gives off a false vibe and you're fine countering me for my opinion, without any proof either way, but you see no need to counter people that are calling this a Yellow remake? You don't see a conflict there? Calling this a Yellow remake is more of a negative than me thinking it will be gen 8. People are already assuming that Pikachu and Eevee won't be able to evolve, because the Pikachu in Yellow couldn't evolve. We don't even know if this game will be like RBY. But you don't have any desire to correct those opinions?
We don't know what these games will be. I'd like them to be side games more than core games.But you said yourself that "GF is not predictable anymore". I'd say GF can make whatever they want, since GF is not "predictable" anymore.Why? Because to fill up slots in 2018 since wouldn't get anything new. Also, B or C team could work on this while A team still works on Gen 8. Extremely unlikely since the names of these games are Pikachu and Eevee.. it makes 0 sense that they're in game gifts and that we get them before getting starters. That has like 0 possibility of happening. So, we won't have TS to choose here, since we will have PE.Getting two starters in XY? I didn't play it, in beginning or later? If it's in beginning, I doubt it, if it's later it makes sense(like post game), but here it makes no sense to get P/E in beginning and later 3 new(Gen 8) starters, like is it entire point of new gen to promote new Pokemon?As of vice-versa I don't see it because titles are PIKACHU AND EEVEE, why would we get them later in the game?If these games are not being developed by Game Freak, they can't be core titles and can't possibly be gen 8. I think you and I agree on that. But if they are being developed by Game Freak, it's not possible for them to be MD, and highly unlikely that they will be deemed spinoff titles. I suppose it's possible that Game Freak would make their own spinoff game, but why? As for Pikachu and Eevee being starters, it seems the most logical outcome, but for all we know they could be in-game gifts or we could already have them when the game starts. There could still be traditional starters to choose from. Not very likely, but again, Game Freak likes to be unpredictable. We got two starters in XY.
It does. Show me a fact that new gen has been released in less than 3 years? You got none, because it never happened. Point of that is they want to make new gens as amazing as possible, so that's why it takes times (3-4 years even someone here said that Masuda stated it takes them 3-4 years to make new gen). Yes they do have multiple people but they work on sequels/remakes and third games) and BTW GF also had 3DS for more than 2 years back in the day and still Gen 6 came out in 2013( where 3DS was 2011) and not in 2012.You're calling your opinion a fact and saying that it disproves mine. Also, Sun and Moon releasing in 2016 has little, if anything, to do with the release of the next games. Game Freak doesn't put all of its eggs in one basket. They have multiple teams working on projects at the same time. They've had a dev kit for the Switch for more than 2 years.
It may be a bridge between 7 and 8, like 7.5 but nothing related to Gen 8 to announce it as Gen 8 and for me the case is this is MD game.1.spin off then 2. core gameI'm actualy starting to think this may be the case. LGPE might be a kickoff for the new generation, with the bigger games coming a year or two from now.
I absolutely hope that they don't exclusively use the original 151. that would be going back to the days when Psychic-types dominated everything, as there will be no Dark-types and only 1 Ghost-type line (who is part Poison, giving them a weakness to Psychic). And, Gen 1 bug-types suck. Not even adding in all of the crossgen evos can fix this, as they will add no new Ghost-types and one new Dark-type (Umbreon). And also, the leaks implied that there will be new main characters, with Red and Blue having "advisory roles."
Ever play Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf green? Any Pokemon that were not apart of the original 151 were impossible to obtain until a certain part of the story. If you had a Golbat and raised its Friendliness enough, but were still early game, it would start to evolve, then stop itself every time it leveled because Crobat wasn't available yet. They could restrict people the same way here.
I heavily doubt they will retexture the 3DS models to HD. Makes you think, why they didn't release the rumored "Stars" version to Switch if HD development was as easy like that? The texturing procedure does not work as if you're playing S/M in 4K Citra. Plus, this HD version of Charizard Y isn't something I'd be interested to see in Switch, but more complex. Designing the original 1-151 first, and the first installments of Switch games are rumored to be Kanto reboots sounds logical to me. The most quality sprites (3D included) we've ever seen so far were made in 240p, now they are on a much bigger project so, going step by step and introducing little amount of Pokemon, but releasing the rest as the time goes by like GO did(!) should be understandable even if most of the fans will riot.
I absolutely hate the idea of only having the original 151 accessible.
I honestly don't know why people are believing the latest rumor when it's so obvious that it's false. I can't see them restricting Pokemon like that since they've never done that before and always advertise the newer Pokemon, mega evolutions, etc. over the past generations. It just makes no sense whatsoever lol
Because it is worthy for discussion, that's why. None of us would be turned on with restrictions and we're aware that not most of the Pokemon fans are sympathetic towards Kanto, but we're sharing our opinion about what may(-not) likely to happen. The restriction of original 151 came from the leaker who revealed the most reliable content, even to a point the currently-registered domains are supporting the titles, which is why it's worth speculating what he brings to the table. Like it or not, accept it or not, these leaks are no different than 'Team RR' or 'Beware of leaks!' and credible enough to put some time to think and anticipate GameFreak's future actions towards the franchise.I honestly don't know why people are believing the latest rumor when it's so obvious that it's false. I can't see them restricting Pokemon like that since they've never done that before and always advertise the newer Pokemon, mega evolutions, etc. over the past generations. It just makes no sense whatsoever lol
One question for you all; would you like if this LPGE game look like this( or similar to this);
I'd like that, TBH.