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To those people who are asking when Pokemon will end.

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ProtoManEXE88

Rising Trainer
I think people want the anime to just end, and get new characters... learn a little from Yugioh.
 

mewtwo1414141414

Sea Ruby Trainer
I know that, but I answered the question to those people who always ask, how long do you think pokemon will last, or something like that.
 

Yamato-san

I own the 5th gen
here's a quote of mine from another thread.

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Yeah, but they gotta end the amount of Pokemon sooner or later, considering how overwhelming the number would become. As it is, 386 species is pretty overwhelming. I know they're profitting off the games, but I've always been suggesting the idea of putting a stop to the RPG franchise and just focusing on different types of games, involving all the Pokemon in various styles of gameplay. Pokemon Rangers and Mysterious Dungeon are a good start. As for the anime.... aside from having such games to adapt off of (hell, the girl from Pokemon Rangers is gonna make an appearance in the anime), they also could have original plotlines (Orange Islands), and if the Battle Frontier's any indication, the anime writers apparently have absolutely no problem with taking a sidequest in one of the games and extending it over a year.

Remember, one of the goals that players can aim for in the games, which is undeniably the base which the entire franchise is built on, is collection, to collect every available species. Of course, it's more of a side-quest aspect than anything else, nothing required to beat the game, but nontheless, it's considerably quite a major part of the game and one that's been around ever since Red/Green. Of course, it's possible to collect because there's enough room in the boxes to do so, though, considering technology increases as more Pokemon get added, that's probably be the least of their worries. However, other than available space, another thing's required to collect, and that's time and patience. As it is, it's pretty overwhelming to collect 100-something creatures, and having to redo it every five years with the number increasing by a hundred more (though, that's without taking backwards compatibility into account.... Diamond/Pearl were confirmed to be capable of third generation trade-back). Plus, Pokemon isn't like most other popular monster-based franchises like Digimon or Monster Farm. In such series, their video games only have select species featured from their monster bestiaries, and collecting even what's available in that individual game is impossible in several cases and hardly emphasised. Pokemon, though, has stayed consistent with their RPG series always featuring the complete up-to-date bestiary, none left out, and always having that ability to collect every one of them, and I expect it'd continue that way for any future RPG installments, eventually backing them into a corner.

As you can see, I'm not in the slightest suggesting the idea of ending the franchise, but sooner or later, they are gonna have to put a stop to the overwhelming number of Pokemon. They should really start just using fresh and original ideas with what they have, and going back on what my quote mentioned, Pokemon Ranger and Mysterious Dungeon are a good start. On another note, Mario's the best-selling game franchise ever, but something worth noting about it is that it started out as a platformer. Nowadays, Mario's hardly about platforming anymore, as he's constantly being featured in sports titles and the Mario Party series, as well as RPGs, with the platformers the franchise started out with being rather rare. Who's to say Pokemon will eventually leave the (turn-based) RPGs behind?
 
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Pokemaníaco Desesperado

Normal Coordinator
I can see pokémon stoping the amount of creatures, they can't continue to the infinite (well, they could always do something in the RPGs, items which fill some parts of the pokédex, but meh).
On another note, Mario's the best-selling game franchise ever, but something worth noting about it is that it started out as a platformer. Nowadays, Mario's hardly about platforming anymore, as he's constantly being featured in sports titles and the Mario Party series, as well as RPGs, with the platformers the franchise started out with being rather rare. Who's to say Pokemon will eventually leave the (turn-based) RPGs behind?
There's a problem: for some weird reason, most pokémon fans seem hate pokémon games that aren't RPG :/
They could always do new RPGs without new pokémon, just new features, graphics and game mechanincs, but they wouldn't work so well, anyways.
And there's another problem with the Mario-like games, Mario games always turn around Mario, but even when Pikachu is like Mario, the series has always been focused in collecting all pokémon available than in pikachu, making good collecting games that aren't RPGs is hard (and looking at ranger and mysterious dungeon, I can see lots of people complaining because they can't use their favourite pokémon).
 
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adamgnome

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I doubt Pokemon will end, although I think the anime needs to end to make it stop seeming like a big commercial, and probably mature a bit. It's been a decade and, although the main RPG games seem like their for everyone, the anime doesn't.

I think they probably need to stop creating new Pokemon. Although, the problem with new Pokemon RPGs without new Pokemon, is that it might not seem new enough if it's for the GBA. Pokemon XD did a nice job, but they didn't pick the same formula as the GBA RPG games, which makes sense, but I don't think it's as fun as the GBA ones, and lots of people agree.

I can see after Diamond and Pearl are released on the DS, that Revolution will have a very nice fulll Pokemon RPG game, not like XD or Coloseam, that will probably be online. (Hopefully like a MMORPG, not just battling with other people.) Doing that would be awesome, I have no idea how likely it is though.
 

Volteon

Back I guess??
Latios said:
Well Pokemon is long was from being "too many monsters". I've heard Digimon has over 1000, but this could be an exaggeration. Then again, we have the basic Digimon from long ago, then they started adding set evolutions, then variations of the same Digimon (-Greymon is a good example) then they started adding combination Digimon.

So yeah, Pokemon hasn't reached the ludicrous point, yet.
based on what I know, the digimon makers released more than 500 diferent digiblahs in the 1st gen. of them, then I think that this finished with this game. and also the idea of pre-evolve a lot of times, is the worst IMO, have you ever saw a monster that wants to be weaker all the time?

and I agree with mewtwo14... mario is alive 20 years, I think, pokemon has the same future IMO.
 
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Hukuzo

Guest
Pokemon will end sooner or later. It's inevitable.
Nintendo said that they're depending on the Revolution and if it doesn't sell well, they're done.
 

munchlaxboy

Catching up on XY
Pokemon Shall Never End!!!!! But if it does, they will make another something just like this original pokemon!!! Take yugioh and yugioh GX for example.
 
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Yamato-san

I own the 5th gen
Latios said:
The problem with Pokemon games is that it has a "free character recruitment" system, so to speak. You choose who you want on your side to fight. Anything that has to do with a set story means that you probably can't have this anymore.

Actually, they could still use that free character recruitment system with new styles of gameplay. Strategy RPGs have been getting more and more popular lately, and there's also a matter of somehow incorporating real-time into Pokemon Battles.

Latios said:
Well Pokemon is long was from being "too many monsters". I've heard Digimon has over 1000, but this could be an exaggeration. Then again, we have the basic Digimon from long ago, then they started adding set evolutions, then variations of the same Digimon (-Greymon is a good example) then they started adding combination Digimon.

So yeah, Pokemon hasn't reached the ludicrous point, yet.

Yeah, but I already pointed out that the difference between Pokemon and most other monster franchises is that such franchises don't base everything around a collection RPG series, so any time they have a video game or anime series or whatever, they don't incorporate and feature the entire monster bestiary, but rather, they use select species. Digimon started off as a virtual pet. When the Digital Monster Ver. 2 was released, did they have any of the Digimon from Ver. 1? Nope. But then again, they're V-pets, they can't hold that much data, right? Well then, what about console games? As far as I know, even the earliest console Digimon games left out several existing species (namely those from Digital Monster Ver. 5, which featured Gazimon, Devidramon, Deltamon, Metal Tyranomon, and several others), and don't get me started on the later RPGs like the last two Digimon Worlds or Brave Tamer, which featured a very, very limited number of playable Digimon (namely those popular ones that were featured in the anime series). Pokemon's not like that, its main RPG series never just has select species programmed into the game. They're all in there, and the games have always been consistent like that.

Also, with that in mind, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh!, etc. are capable of adding onto their bestiaries through any minor installment, be it a V-pet, anime, manga, console game, card, you name it, they can increase the number so simply. Pokemon's not like that, it has an installment to its main game series every 5 years or so which, rather than several small additions, results in a single gargantuan addition to the number of creatures. And sure, several of these Pokemon appear in the anime or card game long before the game's released, but these are considerably "preview" Pokemon, because everyone's expecting them to be a part of this next mass addition that the next game installments will bring. We all knew Togepi would be a part of Gold/Silver, we all knew Kakureon would be a part of Ruby/Sapphire, and we now know that Gonbe will be a part of Diamond/Pearl.
 

Yamato-san

I own the 5th gen
um..... what does that have to do with not using the free recruitment system for new styles of gameplay?

Oh, and on the subject of set storylines..... it actually is possible for games with free recruitment system to have major characters that play a role in the story (and, for obvious reasons, can't be released from your party). For instance, I have yet to play it, but I think the first monster you get in Azure Dreams is a story character that's always with you. Several of the afforementioned strategy RPGs, like Final Fantasy Tactics and Nippon Ichi titles, also have a free-recruitment system, yet have several story-based characters as well. Pokemon has had several opportunities to have story-based characters as well, but sadly, it seems as though they're kinda cheap with the programming, so the Pikachu you get at the beginning of Yellow version or the Blacky and Eifie you start with in Colloseum have the same basic data as every other Pokemon you're capable of receiving. You know, they can be traded away, they can be released, they don't have a set personality, etc., nor do they participate at all in cinema scenes outside the very beginning of the game, when you receive them. About the only thing that does make them different is that in Colloseum, Eifie and Blacky are always set to be male (which was only done to prevent breeding of Eievui before Fire Red/Leaf Green's release), and Pikachu can't be evolved, has a happiness meter, and follows you outside of its Monster Ball (BTW, I goofed around with a Game Shark and discovered this actually applies to any Pikachu that has the same ID number as the trainer), yet as I mentioned before, oddly enough, this Pikachu that's played up to be your best friend in the game is capable of being ditched through trade or release.
 
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Ford Sucks

Guest
It won't end, as Nintendo would be dumber than Rick Wagoner if they did that. Heck, it's like throwing money into a toilet.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
It will get more advanced,or the trainers will stop aging.But the Pokemon will eventually have no more new species.The probability of it ending is the same as the sky falling
 

Flygonzilla

**_ IS FEMALE _**
Too many species? But I absolutely HATED it when R/S took out so many of my favourites... and we were left with ones like magcargo and azumarill. Though, as long as the storyline isn't just a remake of a previous game, I wouldn't mind if it re-uses the existing pokemon and characters.
 

Ket Shi

Come on and SLAM!
Of course Pokémon will someday end, just like everything else. I think it still has a good deal of life left in it, though.

The problem is, how many Pokémon can you get before there's too many?
 

PDL

disenchanted
I have noticed that the collection aspect of the game has been "toned down" a bit when RS was released, it's still there of course, and your still about to do so, but it's no long required to beat the game... (and then your only prize is a fancy-pants diploma handed to you by Game Freak's game programmer)

now it's mostly focused on battling, look how battle-orientired Emerald is X_X

Too many species? But I absolutely HATED it when R/S took out so many of my favourites... and we were left with ones like magcargo and azumarill. Though, as long as the storyline isn't just a remake of a previous game, I wouldn't mind if it re-uses the existing pokemon and characters.

the main reason why they did this in RS was to force people to use the newer pokemon rather then just relying on their old favourites.

that was the main problem with Gold and Silver, the old pokemon were so common and so easy to get that the newer ones barely got a chance to show their stuff... the only new pokemon most people would have on their teams were their starters, Ampharos and GS pokemon that evolved from RBY ones.
 
Pokemon will go on for a long,long time more. My estimate is until about 2015. And Digimon has an absolutely ridiculous amount of monsters so why can't Pokemon? Also the 4th generation is mainly going to be related to the previous 386 species and apparently Pokemon like Serviper and Arbok or tauros and Milktank or kingler and Crawdaunt are actually going to become related through cross evolutions e.g

Krabby -}Kingler -\'newcrabpokemon'
Corphish -}Crawdaunt -/'samenewcrabpokemonasabove'

this may be hasrd as they may have to even out Kinger and Crawdaunt's stats (Kingler's and Krabby's stat totas are higher than Corphish's and Crawdaunt's)

Back to the subject of Pokemon if we go back to the subject of digimon we have agumon who is related to Greymon, metalgreymon, wargreymon, skullgreymon, darkwargreymon and the two predigievolutions of Agumon which I cannot remember, then Wargreymon and metalgururumon can interdigievolve meaning that Agumaon is also related to gabumon, Gururumon, weregururumon and metalgururumon and Gabumon'd digievoltions which, again, I cannot remember and metalgururumon is also ummmm..... 'interdigievolovabilitaly' with the digievolved form of Megakabuterimon which makes Agumon related to Kabuterimon and Megakabuterimon and kabuterimon's four (I think) digievolutions, etc.

Anyways, it would be good if they could do this with Pokemon.

If any of u r (I need 2 use abbreviations (I have slready tIped enuf already)) wondering why I kno all of this about digimon it is because I used to watch the anime and it was ABSOLUTELY awesome (although the games were (apparently (I never had them) terrible)) an I have remembered all of this from along time ago.

FINALLY (I hope) apparently Nintendo had about 1,500 ideas for the first generation so, I will stop now because I suddenly get far 2 talkative on forums and when I do not use slang I end up spending hours typing (not literally) Bye! Oh... and Doesn'y matter, Bye!

EDIT:Only joking! although I will have an edit l8er. Bye for the last time

P.S. I take it that u all find me very annoying so put me on ur ignore list if u find me really frustratinf. thx for reading (if u did) Bye!
 
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