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Too young to post?

The Admiral

the star of the masquerade
I can argue that anything you consider to be pornography is just art. Now there's no more porn on the internet.

I can argue that anything you consider to be art is just pornography. Now you're a smart-aleck who opened a can of worms.

This is where a parent fails! If a parent is not minding their child, and that child ends up somewhere they don't belong, It's that parents fault.

I've been saying this for a while -- though maybe not necessarily specifically about the Internet.

No you can't.

He can, but he'd be wrong -- which isn't really anything new, pardon my French.
 

FE21

Well-Known Member
You can't spell consider and you think you're going to learn things of consequence on this site.

Yeah you're too young to be on the internet alone.

I can't spell it or I might have hit the wrong key and didn't catch the mistake when I read it back to myself...
All things CONSIDERed, I'm leaning towards the second one...
 

Finch.

Sunlight, sunlight~
I believe that people should always 'ask an adult before going online', when they're young. I think that the internet is quite a shifty place in some areas, and that people should always be careful. Sometimes, people really aren't at the maturity level needed to face the internet...which is a massive jumble of a HUGE amount of different ideologies and beliefs and lifestyles. There are people out there who might take advantage of them, and that worries me. Age limits are there for a reason, but I also think that first and foremost, the parents should be the ones looking out for their own kids.
 

Sadib

Time Lord Victorious
It has already be stated many times that the censor rules depend on the section and mods in question. In Misc/OVGD/Atl. Anime, where everyone is pretty much 16+, you can curse and not get infracted as long as your post has some kind of point other than to swear. In other sections like Generation 1/2/3/4/5 discussion and GPD it might be enforced more due to Pokemon topics attracting younger members that are sometimes 10-14 of age or so.

Seems like some mods aren't doing their job.
 

ParaChomp

be your own guru
Seems like some mods aren't doing their job.
I know, people swear on Smogon all the time. Now let me cuss in the competitive section!

That said, I know I'm repeating myself, but it's usually the places that have more mature topics that let censoring slide.

Stumbled upon this post.
 
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Kacho

You are next.
I'm just going to say, if we're reaching the age of technology and internet and still barring a lot of kids from the world, we'll have shelter kids, the internet version...

of course, this can be elaborated and broken down, but i can't solidify my idea yet...
hopefully someone catch my thought
 

Kaiserin

please wake up...
I'm just going to say, if we're reaching the age of technology and internet and still barring a lot of kids from the world, we'll have shelter kids, the internet version...

of course, this can be elaborated and broken down, but i can't solidify my idea yet...
hopefully someone catch my thought

I think the internet would do the exact opposite, in a sense, because it's just so vast. There's the problem of potential addiction and all, but for the most part, it doesn't exactly shelter them the same way as not letting them use it at all. (Actually, I think disallowing kids use of the internet at all is more sheltering in today's age.)

The issue here seems to be more whether parents would want to keep their kids from stumbling into something they shouldn't, and ultimately protecting them from their own stupidity and/or immaturity.
 
I say some people shouldn't be allowed within 20 feet of a computer (IOW They shouldn't post). Either they're too young, too immature, or just flat out not right to be online. It makes being on Forums like this a lot less enjoyable. They play the system and avoid what it SHOULD be doing, which is making this place better and troll free. It's surprising what kind of people are on here; I love the honest people here, and its fun to chat with them, but some of the "annoying ones" (for lack of a better word) make me want to leave.
 

Kacho

You are next.
I think the internet would do the exact opposite, in a sense, because it's just so vast. There's the problem of potential addiction and all, but for the most part, it doesn't exactly shelter them the same way as not letting them use it at all. (Actually, I think disallowing kids use of the internet at all is more sheltering in today's age.)

The issue here seems to be more whether parents would want to keep their kids from stumbling into something they shouldn't, and ultimately protecting them from their own stupidity and/or immaturity.

don't forget I said both "age of technology and internet" and "barring a lot of kids from the world".
I might be unclear, but the latter part meant the internet lol.

Also, I think it's not just about blocking kids to stumble things. Some things parents -need- to talk to their kids about. The Sex talk. The curse word talk. The etiquette talk. And you could have too many talks and helicopter parents, but that's whole another topic...
 

PrismaticPrincessAnna

I'll do my Lilliest
My sister joined facebook when she was 7..which was last year... It's sort of weird. I broke the rules myself for joining TradeMe...like eBay when i was 14...Legal age there is 18...nya~
 

Kaiserin

please wake up...
Also, I think it's not just about blocking kids to stumble things. Some things parents -need- to talk to their kids about. The Sex talk. The curse word talk. The etiquette talk. And you could have too many talks and helicopter parents, but that's whole another topic...

They should, but they often don't, because the media or other people can do it for them, or the kids can find out themselves. Lackluster parenting is what ultimately leads to a lot of the problems that have been mentioned here already.
 

Ludwig

Well-Known Member
This is where a parent fails! If a parent is not minding their child, and that child ends up somewhere they don't belong, It's that parents fault.

The age laws are there for a reason, failed as they are, they are meant to protect children from exposure to inappropriate material. I personally would not let my 11 year old son on this forum. I am fine with him looking at the other areas of Serebii for Pokemon research, but I don't want him to see the tripe some of the member here post. On a forum for a kids game swearing should be a immediate bannable offense.

But the point is there are rules about age for a reason, just because someone is willing to lie about their age... Well that just proves the kind of person is in the first place.

Explain what makes the inappropriate material inappropriate. I've seen many warnings about inappropriate material, but they have always been superfluous. It's actually even bothering me that I can't watch some youtube videos because someone flagged them as inappropriate.
Protecting children from inappropriate material might be good, but that's only if there is inappropriate material to protect them from and I can't think of an example of that.
A significant amount of adults start watching pornography when they are 12-13 years old and some even have intercourse at that age and I don't see anything bad about it.
The other thing that seem to get a lot of warnings as inappropriate material is gore. People get to see that in biology class at a young age, so why not at the internet? I'd like it if someone tells me why it's bad that children or young adults might see these "inappropriate" things.

Young is not necessarily stupid, though. And even if it is, it's entirely possible to grow up and learn better. Ask anyone who's been on the internet for five to ten years since they were a teenager, and you'll probably get a lot of similar answers on that.

I've been a member of forums like this one for at least 5 years and I'm still a teenager. As I've gotten older, my brain have developed and I have also gained more knowledge, but what I've written have basically been the same for 5 years. It might be more structured, better explained and possibly more advanced thoughts now, but I'm still writing in the same type of threads, responding to the same type of comments and writing similar things.
 

Rezzo

Occasionally
Discussion boards are scary, desolate and cold places. Now your forums and stuff have their age limits because children younger than the age of 12 are very gullible and tend to go along with anything, so in other words they're very susceptible to being abducted or giving away important information that strangers shouldn't know, etc. I fully understand that children aged 12 and above are just as susceptible to this in some cases, but the law has to draw a line somewhere. To give a voice to those in danger above 11 posting on discussion boards, I personally think that they should be lightly supervised by parents until a good age (18?), or until their parents feel that they have a good understanding. It is out of the law's grasp if children are still in danger as this point, really, because as another poster said, it's only really bad parenting that leads to a young person being in danger on the Internet.

Somethings to consiter:
*Anybody could easily lie about their age

This is true (and to be fair, it actually should be more strongly enforced in my opinion, but what can you do), but anybody can easily lie about a lot of things in life. It comes down to parenting once again; "those who lie never truly benefit".

*Today a 17 year old can't join, but tomorrow the same guy (now 18) can

The line has to be drawn somewhere. By playing that card, somebody two days before their 18th is only 1 day younger than a person who just joined, so they should be allowed to join too right? And then what about a person 3 days away from their 18? They're only 1 day away from someone able to join as well now, so they should just be allowed to join... and so on and so forth.

*It actually keeps people from (gasp) asking questions and (double-gasp) learning something)

I don't think knowledge should be valued above safety.

*Serebii is free for anyone of any age to use, so lets all thank them for that liberty!

Wohoo
 

Kaiserin

please wake up...
I've been a member of forums like this one for at least 5 years and I'm still a teenager. As I've gotten older, my brain have developed and I have also gained more knowledge, but what I've written have basically been the same for 5 years. It might be more structured, better explained and possibly more advanced thoughts now, but I'm still writing in the same type of threads, responding to the same type of comments and writing similar things.

That's what I mean, though. You start out with ideas and thoughts just as legitimate as an eighteen-year-old or a middle-aged person, but you don't have the social skills, tact, or maturity to channel those ideas the same way older people do. General you, because I've seen a lot of cases where young teens are making asses of themselves on the internet without meaning to, but then three or four years later, they've grown up a lot and have cleaned up their act a bit, despite being the same person. I'm a good example of that, too, actually... you don't wanna know about what I did on the internet at thirteen, oh lordy.

Part of a parent's job is to guide their kids into being functional adults who can continue on their way without having to rely on their parents or other people, and I think allowing them to learn from their own mistakes instead of sheltering them is a big part of that. Saving them from their own stupidity, however... it's one thing if a tween decides to troll a forum and get banned from it and cries to mommy, but totally another if they wind up doing something dumb like threatening someone who decides to take action against them, or agreeing to meet someone offline for sex who is showing all the warning signs of being a bad apple... stuff like that that could get them in legal trouble, or any other type of palpable trouble.
 

Ludwig

Well-Known Member
I'm a good example of that, too, actually... you don't wanna know about what I did on the internet at thirteen, oh lordy.

I actually returned to the first forum I was a member of after writing that post to read what I wrote when I was thirteen. I don't know if you want to know what I wrote, but I do know that I don't want you (or anyone else) to know what I wrote.
 
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