Torkoal's in-game team

[Torkoal]

I'm about to face Sabrina
My team is:
Fang/Gyarados
lv36
Bashful Nature
No Item
Twister
Tackle
Bite
Dragon Rage

Skull/Marowak
lv36
Gentle Nature
No Item
Rock Tomb
Bonemerang
Headbutt
Dig

Rex/Charizard
lv41
Rash Nature
Charcoal
Wing Attack
Flamethrower
Ember
Metal Claw

Fluffy/Primape
lv36
Lax Nature
No Item
Mega Punch
Counter
Focus Punch
Cross Chop

Chewy/Pikachu
lv37
Serious Nature
No Item
Thundershock
Quick Attack
Shock Wave
Thunderbolt

Tootoo/Clafairy
lv39
Naughty Nature
No Item
Psychic
Moonlight
Return
Metronome

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

Fang/Gyarados
lv35
Bashful Nature
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
HP Flying
Return

Skull/Marowak
lv35
Gentle Nature
Rock Slide
Bonemerang
Double Edge
Swords Dance

Rex/Charizard
lv41
Rash Nature
Fly/Aerial Ace
Flamethrower
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

Fluffy/Primape
lv35
Lax Nature
Bulk Up
Return
Cross Chop
Rock Slide

Chewy/Pikachu
lv35
Serious Nature
Brick Break
Light Screen
Dig/HP Grass, Water, or Ice
Thunderbolt

Tootoo/Clafairy
lv36
Naughty Nature
Psychic
Meteor Mash
Cosmic Power
Return

All are attainable without breeding, but your team definately has issues. Perhaps straying from the physical world once in a while would be nice...

 

[Carpetted!]

There's absolutely no need for brick break or dig pikachu. And HPs are hard to get ingame.

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

HPs are hard to get period. I can understand Dig, but Brick Break is better than stupid Focus Punch... Everyone I battle that uses it say they're deleting it realizing it's too easy to counter...

 

[aipomkong]

focus punch is only good in competitive battling when it actually becomes useful

 

[Tazzler]

About the marowak.......teach something theif and go to lavender tower and use theif on the wild cubones. Eventually you will get thick club.

 

[Hemp Man]

All are attainable without breeding, but your team definately has issues. Perhaps straying from the physical world once in a while would be nice...

Dont suggest HP ingame, use Taunt or Thunder Wave.

Fly is TRASH, Rock Slide/Earthquake/Fire Blast and DD is a breeding move btw.

Return sucks on Primeape.

Dig Pikachu? Pikachu dug a hole, pokemon used earthquake, pikachu died.

And Focus Punch>>>Brick Break

 

[Freakshow]

Brick Break is better IMO because of the lack of predicting ingame.

As an example......
(You switch in heracross to snorlax, heracross tightens its focus, snorlax used Shadow Ball)

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

Pikachu DIDN'T use Dig
Enemy used Earthquake
Pikachu died.

Rock Slide- Move Tutor (FR- Rock Tunnel, EM- Battle Frontier)
Fire Blast- TM 39 (Funny, I never recommended it...)
Earthquake- TM 28

Okay, DD on Charizard slipped my eyes, but I hope you didn't mean Gyarados...

Seriously now...

Other than Hyper Beam, Return is practically the most powerful Normal move, but Hyper Beam... No. I notice YOU didn't tell HIM anything. Primape doesn't quite have the movepool to brag. And I'll stop recommending HP when other people stop.

Tazzler+Janina, great idea. I use Thief myself to get mushrooms. I was lucky, though, and the Cubone I caught at 5 Island held a Thick Club. First one I saw, too!

 

[Carpetted!]

Pikachu DIDN'T use Dig
Enemy used Earthquake
Pikachu died.

1.
Pikachu used dig.
Opponent DIDN'T use earthquake.
Opponent switched to Claydol and owned pikachu
2.
Pikachu used dig.
Opponent used earthquake.
Pikachu died.
3.
Opponent used earthquake.
Pikachu died.
Conclusion : Digging pikachu's death is inevitable.

Other than Hyper Beam, Return is practically the most powerful Normal move, but Hyper Beam... No. I notice YOU didn't tell HIM anything. Primape doesn't quite have the movepool to brag.

No. STABed Cross Chop > Return. No need for return, as it doesn't cover anything.

And I'll stop recommending HP when other people stop.

Bandwagon.

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

Bandwagon

Explain

No. STABed Cross Chop > Return. No need for return, as it doesn't cover anything.

Cross Chop's accuracy is too low. Brick Break is a much better fighting attack. Return would also have STAB value with Choice Band.

Claydol? Hmmm. I'll have to keep in mind everyone I'll face will have a Claydol. Not that I'll use Pikachu anyway, but hey.

 

[Carpetted!]

Explain

'everyone else is doing it
I can do it too' - an example of bandwagon, which doesn't work for rating ingame teams.

Cross Chop's accuracy is too low. Brick Break is a much better fighting attack. Return would also have STAB value with Choice Band.

Brick break is only used because there's no cross chop sometimes. And cross chop would've double stab. =D And return isn't good against anything.

Claydol? Hmmm. I'll have to keep in mind everyone I'll face will have a Claydol. Not that I'll use Pikachu anyway, but hey.

You're right. If digging pikachu faces something that isn't claydol, it won't die. [/sarcasm]

 

[aipomkong]

lol so when did primeapes movepool become small enough to rely on return?

Cross Chop / Rock Slide / HP Ghost / Earthquake

or any of the following over EQ/HP

Overheat / Focus Punch / Thunder / Reversal / Iron Tail

all five of those are better options then return, even STABed brick break does more then return so it is pointless.

I also fail to see how cross chops accuracy is TOO low, 100 base power + huge Critical Hit rate is worth the cost of missing

 

[Carpetted!]

Iron tail is redundant imo. Cross chop covers everything iron tail is good against, so even return would be better because of slightly higher strength.