U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History

[Baba Yaga]

All Trump supporters are actively or are in denial about/support hatred, by having voted for Trump. I can point you to Twitter. Look up any Bernie Supporter, cross-reference them harassing Daisy Ridley, Kelly-Marie Tranh, Anita Sarkeesian,Michelle Wolf or any number of non-CisHetWhiteMales, and there's all the proof you need. No numbers required.

He needs to actively support and endorse Anti-NRA efforts, not make millions AND a government check, and apologize and make efforts to reverse that exact decision you are talking about, since that is one of his unpardonable sins, among others.

If she's not black, red, brown or yellow, she's white. And working for Bernie pays, as does politics in general. Take the hint.

Should I add that he's also a hypocrite who champions socialism but profits off of bogus real estate deals he and his wife make like the capitalists he claims not to represent?

Comey's attack on Hillary+Hatred for non-whiteCisHetMaleChristians X BernieBros personalities demonstrated time and time again on social media=Trump's America. Put 2 and 2 together.

See the above for why he's toxic. For the second, you can choose who you associate with. Not rejecting and condemning the Bros outright says that you endorse their behaviors. Spinelessness towards his current or former supporters hatred and hypocrisy regarding Socialism are his calling cards. She should condemn Bernie if she wants to get anywhere in Congress, BTW. Bernie is now blamed for Hillary Clinton losing via the Bros, and if you want to swing mainline Democrat votes on issues, you have to be both anti-Bernie and anti-Republican. And remember what I said about unpardonable sins? Try feeding your rhetoric to a victim of hate crimes that used guns because Bernie voted yes on that bill.

He still hasn't apologized and shown regret for the times he supported them during critical gun control votes, though. Nor has he done anything significant to help shooting victims directly other than do his job(and poorly)...He SHOULD donate his Senatorial money to victims(he doesn't need it) of guns...and his Bros and Bras outright voted FOR Trump because a black man was president, and a woman was going to be one...they couldn't have that now, could they? They'd settled for a Jewish person as long as he was a rich white cis het man...but denied that, they doubled down on their sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, Islamaphobia, misogyny, birtherism, and ableism and voted for someone who would let them have all of that and a side of fries...as a bonus, they could go back to antisemitism, too!

I'm pretty sure Sanders explained his votes that seemed to align with the NRA. One bill in particular he voted against, according to his words, would have held gun sellers liable for the actions that their customers took with their firearms. You're being ridiculous, he's condemned the NRA multiple times and has used his extra donation money to support progressive candidates all across the U.S.

And the argument that Sander's supporters ruined the election for Hilary only makes sense if you presume that Hilary was the good and proper candidate to win the election. If I were to say that Hilary's candidacy and her supporters ruined Bernie's chances, it's just as legitimate of an argument.

He also denounced his toxic supporters:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-condemns-bernie-bros_us_56b75a28e4b08069c7a79b1e

Put the crack pipe down.

 

[Gamzee Makara]

Source? And not holding gun sellers liable is wrong because every gun pipeline member is complicit in every gun crime, and I dare you to tell otherwise to victims of gun violence, especially school shooting victims.

She was better than Oompa-Loompa and Friends or Fake Socialist from the main parties, Freeze Peach from Green, and Anarchist Scum from, the Libertarian.

That reporter didn't put aside his Pro-Bernie bias while writinbg that, as proven by his conspiracy theory regarding the Clinton Campaign. So I can't trust that he didn't use of a quote ouote OOC to re-affirm his bias. He might be a Berniebro.

Time to put this to rest with a real-life example.

My uncle-in-law is a BernieBro. He admitted everything I have said regarding BernieBros as true TO MY FACE WHEN TRUMP WON.

Checkmate.

 

[Team Volt Grunt]

Time to put this to rest with a real-life example.

My uncle-in-law is a BernieBro. He admitted everything I have said regarding BernieBros as true TO MY FACE WHEN TRUMP WON.

Checkmate.

One example does not represent the entire population. Take a science/math/accounting class and they will tell you that. You are generalizing the entire group of people that favored Bernie over Trump and Clinton into your uncle.

 

[Gamzee Makara]

One example does not represent the entire population. Take a science/math/accounting class and they will tell you that. You are generalizing the entire group of people that favored Bernie over Trump and Clinton into your uncle.

I feel ganged up on.

"Not all _ are_" is a poor choice of retort. "Not all _are_" is a defense by some people who have something to hide/prematurely defend accusations of doing said thing "not all" of them or the group they are defending do.

He's one example out of the many I COULD provide. If you don't have Facebook, Twitter or ESPECIALLY Reddit, you haven't seen real people doing real things, only numbers and heresay saying they don't.

 

[RedJirachi]

...were politics always this contentious, or has Trump does made that louder?

 

[Zora]

We can probably look at a half different groups, from BernieBros to Stein voters to the moderates who took Clinron emails seriously, and say they made the epsilon of difference in a close race.

But the election should have been a landslide and we need a bigger picture on how one lost to DJT in the first place. And granted, while Clinton deserves much of the blame, it's not all on her. White moderates need to seriously get politics is not a sideshow; policies have real, possibly life or death, impacts on people. The mainstream media is a riot and needs to do so much reevaluation; that's an entire discussion on to itself but the media treats itself as a passive player in politics when it's not. The DNC needs to grow a backbone; that might have saved SCOTUS in 2016 but now it's lost for a generation. All these probably matter than whatever epsilon of Clinton's votes were lost to Bernie.

 

[Sαpphire]

...were politics always this contentious, or has Trump does made that louder?

The Trump era - with him as both a symptom and a contributory factor - has a lot more blunt, harsh, and unproductive discourse than the one immediately prior, that's for sure. But it would probably be remiss of me to say that politics in America, at least, hasn't always been this way in a lot of ways. The internet and other factors just make it easier to see.

 

[Zora]

https://twitter.com/VP/status/1012077857563119617?s=19

Thank you to Justice Anthony Kennedy for your long career of service on the SCOTUS. @POTUS Trump will nominate a strong conservative, in the tradition of the late Justice Scalia, who will uphold all the God-given liberties enshrined in the Constitution of the United States.

"God-given liberties." As if that isn't a dogwhistle for what he wants to happen. **** Pence.

 

[Sαpphire]

Honestly, the consequences of a significantly conservative judge being appointed now are more wide-reaching and long-lasting than I think a lot of Democrats - not the politicians, but your everyday citizens - probably realize. It's really not entirely common knowledge that SCOTUS are so powerful, so significant - even with high-profile decisions like Obergefell v. Hodges, I feel like their ability to impact the trajectory of both politics and culture is kind of unappreciated.

This sets a course to majorly hamper judicial efforts for a long, long time - and puts cases like Roe v. Wade in major legal jeopardy. This wouldn't just ensure a conservative majority for a significant time period - this puts the whole court at risk, honestly. RBG and Breyer are now, by about a decade minimum, the oldest on the court, and the most likely to leave during Trump's tenure. If the Senate remains in Republican control - and I really hope it doesn't, but there's around a two-thirds chance right now that it does - then those two retiring (or, God forbid, passing away) in the next three years means a court of 7 to 2, conservative to liberal. And with young nominees, it could stay that way for a very long period of time.

This makes the Senate so much more important this year than it was before. That's the only way to safeguard the court against an ideological bend that is nearly impossible to overcome for an entire generation.

2018 is a far more critical moment in the ideological direction of US politics than people realize - less obviously important than 2016 was, but arguably almost as critical. It's a critical moment for progressives, who need to show their hand now to influence the Democratic Party and the 2020 election; it's critical for all liberals to do what they can to help preserve some semblance of the court's balance; it's critical for Republicans to reckon with whether they've truly become the party of Trump.

Everyone, absolutely everyone, needs to vote this year. Liberal ideologies - progressive ideologies - can win, can push this country forward, and can make life in America better. Make greater what is already great, and fix the massive issues we have with race, gender, sexuality, and plenty more. But that can only happen if turnout is high - liberals win when they turn out, and they lose terribly when they don't.

 

[Zora]

As terrified as I am about Roe or Obergefell (and closely related Windsor) being overturned, there's some solace in that plan B is federal legislation. That, of course, means fighting tooth and nail for both a strong senate/house and a president, but I feel that's doable. More concerning is if something like Obamacare or Medicaid are ruled unconstitutional, since plan B is a constitutional amendment as there literally is no other recourse.

But, even if only Roe was at stake, the Dems need to fight tooth and nail now for a SCOTUS appointment. Adopt a 'Garland or bust' attitude--as if Scalia's and Kennedy's replacements merely switched seats--and if we go years without an ninth justice so be it.

The last thing I'll add is depending on how strongly voter suppression is fought (between gerrymandering and voter purges, it isn't looking good), the power the GOP may diminish. Which is to say, we may live in an era where the GOP is irrelevant, because old people would have died off and new voters will have taken reigns. In a hypothetical era, how we handle SCOTUS including Scalia's stolen seat may need to be determined; maybe we'll have to pull off a successful FDR to save judicial branch.

 

[bobjr]

I mean this could lead to the third worst Supreme Court in American history, only because I don't think we have 8 votes keeping slavery legal.

Yet.

 

[Pikachu52]

As terrified as I am about Roe or Obergefell (and closely related Windsor) being overturned

Roe v Wade was already largely overturned by the decision in Planned Parenthood v Casey.

Although the central holding that the 14th amendment protects a right to abortion, SCOTUS abandoned the ridged trimester framework in favour of the more fluid "Undue Burden" test. And it's the uncertainty around that question that has allowed States to restrict access to abortion through the infamous TRAP laws.

What I see happening will be a more conservative court will be more permissive of extremely ridged and burdensome abortion regulations that make it difficult for clinics to operate. And so, while the right to abortion will exist on the books, actually accessing it, at least in some states, might become extremely difficult, particularly for poor and marginalised people.

Obergefell I'd be less worried about simply because simply because of the power of precedent on the Supreme Court.

 

[Baba Yaga]

I feel ganged up on.

"Not all _ are_" is a poor choice of retort. "Not all _are_" is a defense by some people who have something to hide/prematurely defend accusations of doing said thing "not all" of them or the group they are defending do.

He's one example out of the many I COULD provide. If you don't have Facebook, Twitter or ESPECIALLY Reddit, you haven't seen real people doing real things, only numbers and heresay saying they don't.

Oh, I'm not denying a statistically significant number of Bernie's supporters are sexist men. I just don't think that's his fault. If you're a man running against a woman, people that don't want to vote for a woman are going to flock to you, no surprises there.

Your source for earlier, here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ho-said-what-and-what-it-means/?noredirect=on

Though, I'm not sure why you asked for it if the rationale still doesn't justify the vote. I'm just as much for common sense gun control legislation as the next guy, but going after gun manufacturers for any and all negative outcomes from their sales is a bit too moralizing for me.

 

[bobjr]

To me it felt like Bernie mentioning gun control wasn't an easy issue at all, and you had to take things slowly and methodically, but thanks to countless tragedies the position has moved more and more to more gun control thanks to pushing from school shooting victims.

It's kinda horrifying to think that the 2016 election the gun debate was much different in how people went about it, because the NRA was much more of a PR threat back then.

 

[Trainer Yusuf]

https://europeanwesternbalkans.com/2018/06/27/zaev-stoltenberg-will-announce-membership-invitation/

Looks like I was wrong, Macedonia will be a NATO member now.

Edit: Specificially speaking, it takes about 2-3 years after the official invitation to enter NATO. So July 2020 summit is when Macedonia will be a member.

If Kosovo enters UN before 2021, it will take precedence over Bosnia, due Bosnia's complicated army structure. Otherwise, Bosnia will be next.

 

[RedJirachi]

Do any of JFK's family think there was a conspiracy, and if so who and what do they believe actually happened? What does Oswald's own family think happened?

 

[Trainer Yusuf]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino...to-rico-statehood-n887116?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
Ayy. If this passes, Trump will end another debate alongside marijuana, purely due to circumstances out of his own making.

 

[Zora]

Another big scary news day.

Much to do about ICE and DHS.

Spoiler: spoilered for space

• This morning started with federal police detaining ICE protests who helped shut down the ICE branch in Portland. The ICE branch is reoponed following 7 arrests.
  
• There was a huge protest in the Senate Hart office building that result in 600 arrests including Congresswoman such as Rep Jayapal. This protest is, to the best of my knowledge, organized by Women's March hence why the protestors are almost exclusively women.
  
• The former ICE chief consul is in jail following identity theft and abuse--notably, by using identities of immigrants they arrested. Understand that for such a crime to take place requires ICE to have worked in bad faith already.
• 19 ICE investigators are calling about DHS director Nielsen to dissolve ICE citing agency's abuses.
  
• In DHS news, is the DHS released a 14-word report beginning with "We must secure"; this closely resembles another 14-word phrase that begins with "we must secure" that some speculate is more than intentional.
  
• A federal judge orders the 2000 children be reunited within a month (the deadline is new, I think?).

tl;dr: let's abolish ICE. and prosecute them while we're at it.

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The biggest news today, however, concerns the mass shooting in Annapolis against a local newspaper. And, what makes this one stand out is the nation's trajectory was such that terrorists (because, yes, these white men are terrorists let call them what they are) would use violence against the media since there's simply no way for media to portray Trump in a positive light and bad faith. I think most of us share the sentiment that this is just the beginning of violence against journalists--which is what makes today so terrifying.

Also Milo Yinnnopoulus is evil for inciting violence and Trump has said nothing (a 'thoughts and prayers' tweet isn't something).

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dear arceus, that a lot and yes, I'm posting this mostly for my benefit to keep track of it all. There's a lot of disparate stories today.

 

[Auraninja]

What Milo Y. said shouldn't be considered protected speech. In my honest opinion, he should be arrested for this crap.

 

[Sαpphire]

What Milo Y. said shouldn't be considered protected speech. In my honest opinion, he should be arrested for this crap.

A lot of things he says shouldn't be protected. He is reprehensible and vile and I am so pissed that tons of "young conservatives" or whatever have him as their impression of a gay man. His statements and actions and demeanor. I hate it. I don't even know why media outlets contact him for comment anymore though, given his... history.