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U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History
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Poke Trainer J
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Had no idea about Markiplier and ReviewTechUSA, sorry to hear that. Turns out that the FTC are the one's forcing YouTube's hand to legally fine their content creators $42,530 per video If it isn't "commercially viable" starting in January 2020. So much for free speech. Turns out the situation revolving around #COPPA is worse than what the Internet faced with SOPA/PIPPA in regards to Net Neutrality.
Corporations violating 1st Amendment rights of Americans and getting away with it? It's already bad enough with the amount of YouTube content creators that shill for certain companies similar to how politicians "shill" for lobbyists in Washington. Social Media with Twitter and Facebook became a cesspool of negativity after the 2016 General Election.
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keepitsimple
site of lies
good. all youtubers suck.
Gamzee Makara
Flirtin' With Disaster
Chuggaaconroy makes your hyperbole invalid.
Poke Trainer J
Well-Known Member
I guess the golden age of the internet really is over...
Go leave a comment telling the FTC what YOU think of COPPA in it's current state:
https://www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001
Go sign the official petition on Change.org:
https://www.change.org/p/youtubers-and-viewers-unite-against-ftc-regulation
Go leave a comment telling the FTC what YOU think of COPPA in it's current state:
https://www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001
Go sign the official petition on Change.org:
https://www.change.org/p/youtubers-and-viewers-unite-against-ftc-regulation
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https://twitter.com/egoraptor/status/1196960328111644675?s=20
Here's the best thread on COPPA. It's not a threat to video makers, it's more Google/Youtube running things badly in a way where they don't know how to make basic things like "You must be 13 years or older to use this" rules.
Here's the best thread on COPPA. It's not a threat to video makers, it's more Google/Youtube running things badly in a way where they don't know how to make basic things like "You must be 13 years or older to use this" rules.
Poke Trainer J
Well-Known Member
Google/YouTube's been breaking the law for years as they've been mining data from minors who are watching their platform YouTube Kids. They've been using that to create targeted ads for kids as this is very illegal and have been using their algorithm to give priority to other people who were making disgusting content. You know the really gross predatory copyright breaking content aimed at kids, it's all super gross stuff. The problem is that they've been encouraging that by allowing it and the algorithm has been picking them out and monetizing it like crazy so the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) were forced to step in and change something because Google/YouTube just wasn't willing to do it themselves and prepare for the future.
Google/YouTube thought they could break the law and make as much money as long as they could and when things got bad they passed the buck to the content creators cause whenever Google/YouTube messes up it's the content creators that end up having to pay the price for it. They did get fined by the FTC ($170 million) but only a teeny tiny fraction compared to what they make. So the FTC is stepping in and saying, "If you make content that is for kids then you need to mark it as for kids" using YouTube's own little system. It's a little option on your YouTube channel or individual videos can be marked as "for kids". Ideally this would just mean that your video could only be viewable in the YouTube Kids app. That would solve a lot of problems, not sure why it didn't happen that way before though.
Don't know why Google/YouTube isn't doing that in response to this because it would solve a lot of problems, but no instead what happens is that If you mark your video or your channel as "for kids" it means that it will no longer have targeted ads which drastically lowers ad revenue something like 10%. Also you won't get as many views so it's going to be less than 10% because no one can search your video, it will not come up in recommended, people will not get notifications for it. It will basically be invisible so unless someone subscribes to your channel it will be in their feed If they go to it specifically, and it will be on your channel If they go to your channel directly. But it won't be anywhere else, not on YouTube, no discoverability, it's essentially a death sentence for video.
It's not going to make you any money and it's not going to be viewed by anybody. So they're basically telling everyone to start marking their YouTube content which is all well and good but then you start to look at the specifics the FTC is talking about in the COPPA law and they're being super vague about it. They're saying it's not even just stuff that is explicitly for kids and yet the wording from the FTC is basically saying, "It's not just stuff for kids but it's anything a kid might like." Anything a kid might find interesting they specifically mentioned "video games", "toys", and "pop culture" and even words like "fun" and "cool" and "yeah", things that are "colorful" and "vibrant".
The wording is so vague that there's a video of an FTC member at a press conference totally out for blood, talking about taking down YouTube content creators like shooting fish in a barrel. They're talking about heavy career destroying fines ($42,000) potentially per video and Google/YouTube of course especially when this all started Google/YouTube is coming around saying, "You guys know what's best, If your content isn't for kids then you're probably going to be fine, gaming is going to be fine...but get a lawyer." Everything that Google/YouTube is currently saying about this isn't lining up with what the FTC is saying, "No, anyone making anything that a kid might like is just doomed. We're either going to fine you or shut down your YouTube channel."
Google/YouTube thought they could break the law and make as much money as long as they could and when things got bad they passed the buck to the content creators cause whenever Google/YouTube messes up it's the content creators that end up having to pay the price for it. They did get fined by the FTC ($170 million) but only a teeny tiny fraction compared to what they make. So the FTC is stepping in and saying, "If you make content that is for kids then you need to mark it as for kids" using YouTube's own little system. It's a little option on your YouTube channel or individual videos can be marked as "for kids". Ideally this would just mean that your video could only be viewable in the YouTube Kids app. That would solve a lot of problems, not sure why it didn't happen that way before though.
Don't know why Google/YouTube isn't doing that in response to this because it would solve a lot of problems, but no instead what happens is that If you mark your video or your channel as "for kids" it means that it will no longer have targeted ads which drastically lowers ad revenue something like 10%. Also you won't get as many views so it's going to be less than 10% because no one can search your video, it will not come up in recommended, people will not get notifications for it. It will basically be invisible so unless someone subscribes to your channel it will be in their feed If they go to it specifically, and it will be on your channel If they go to your channel directly. But it won't be anywhere else, not on YouTube, no discoverability, it's essentially a death sentence for video.
It's not going to make you any money and it's not going to be viewed by anybody. So they're basically telling everyone to start marking their YouTube content which is all well and good but then you start to look at the specifics the FTC is talking about in the COPPA law and they're being super vague about it. They're saying it's not even just stuff that is explicitly for kids and yet the wording from the FTC is basically saying, "It's not just stuff for kids but it's anything a kid might like." Anything a kid might find interesting they specifically mentioned "video games", "toys", and "pop culture" and even words like "fun" and "cool" and "yeah", things that are "colorful" and "vibrant".
The wording is so vague that there's a video of an FTC member at a press conference totally out for blood, talking about taking down YouTube content creators like shooting fish in a barrel. They're talking about heavy career destroying fines ($42,000) potentially per video and Google/YouTube of course especially when this all started Google/YouTube is coming around saying, "You guys know what's best, If your content isn't for kids then you're probably going to be fine, gaming is going to be fine...but get a lawyer." Everything that Google/YouTube is currently saying about this isn't lining up with what the FTC is saying, "No, anyone making anything that a kid might like is just doomed. We're either going to fine you or shut down your YouTube channel."
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What people are scared of is that COPPA is a federal law, and has a $42k minimum fine associated with its violation per video. The fact is, as a creator, you are not violating COPPA. Google is. You are not the one gathering data on minors. Youtube is.
The problem is Youtube will refuse to fix a problem until they're punished for it, and when they do they'll do their damnedest to push it on people making videos. They refuse to hire people to fix a problem, only to maximize profit through ads that will hurt kids.
The problem is Youtube will refuse to fix a problem until they're punished for it, and when they do they'll do their damnedest to push it on people making videos. They refuse to hire people to fix a problem, only to maximize profit through ads that will hurt kids.
Gamzee Makara
Flirtin' With Disaster
Anything to avoid regulation of Alphabet inc...
F**king maximist Economics born of Buchanan...
F**king maximist Economics born of Buchanan...
Again, COPPA just makes it illegal to collect data about children under 13 without parental consent. I don’t understand how someone putting a video up on Youtube could possibly be found in violation of that.
It’s why this site has a 13 years or older warning like most every other site out there.
It’s why this site has a 13 years or older warning like most every other site out there.
The problem is all of Youtube's competition has disappeared as the decade's gone on. Things like Viddler, Blip, all those died so it's basically Youtube or bust, so unless they can establish another revenue stream they can't do much. It's just Youtube is terribly run and it's not surprising they got booed at Vidcon this year.
Poke Trainer J
Well-Known Member
I guess it goes to show just how strong of a monopoly Google / Alphabet really is as opposed to other companies being left with smaller budgets to work with in the field of video sharing platforms. Bitchute is an option however it's mainly comprised of right wing propaganda where as Vlare is arguably the best alternative to YouTube right now. Yahoo! tried to open their own video sharing platform to compete against YouTube at one point but then eventually gave up.
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Trainer Yusuf
VolcaniNO
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gantz-unable-form-coalition-1.5366536
Benny Gantz has failed to form a governing coalition, meaning Israel will enter a 21 day period when all legislators can try to form a coalition. This will obviously fail, meaning Israel will have a third election next year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio..._2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
With the announcement of Bloomberg and Patrick as candidates, Warren has dropped to to third place in most national polls, but remains the second in poll aggregates. Buttigieg remains the solid fourth for the time being. Sanders has not seen a major uptake yet, but his support will likely only signficantly rise after primaries start.
Wayne Messam has also dropped out of the race, leaving 18 contenders (16 OG + 2 new challangers).
Benny Gantz has failed to form a governing coalition, meaning Israel will enter a 21 day period when all legislators can try to form a coalition. This will obviously fail, meaning Israel will have a third election next year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio..._2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
With the announcement of Bloomberg and Patrick as candidates, Warren has dropped to to third place in most national polls, but remains the second in poll aggregates. Buttigieg remains the solid fourth for the time being. Sanders has not seen a major uptake yet, but his support will likely only signficantly rise after primaries start.
Wayne Messam has also dropped out of the race, leaving 18 contenders (16 OG + 2 new challangers).
The problem with Sanders polling is his base is a lot of non voters most of the time. Otherwise his polling while also getting the biggest crowds and number of donations would seem weird.
It’s like how Mayor Pete fluffs polls with ones where 60% of people have a masters degree. Man I don’t hope he gets nominated, “better things aren’t possible” candidates suck.
It’s like how Mayor Pete fluffs polls with ones where 60% of people have a masters degree. Man I don’t hope he gets nominated, “better things aren’t possible” candidates suck.
Gamzee Makara
Flirtin' With Disaster
The problem with Biden's numbers is that he's only popular with old people:And old people have time to vote in these polls.
Giving the nomination to Biden is handing Trump a second term on a golden platter. All he has to do is say "Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine Obama your son perv" and people will vote for the orange blimp.
BTW, Trump's getting away with all of this as long as Moscow Mitch is President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Impeachment won't work because Mike Pence is the judge, Mitch McConnel is the Prosecutor, and Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Goursch are the tippers on the Supreme Court as moderators. There aren't going to be the 11 Republican flippers needed to convict(11, since fake Democrat Joe Manchin will vote to clear Trump).
Giving the nomination to Biden is handing Trump a second term on a golden platter. All he has to do is say "Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine Obama your son perv" and people will vote for the orange blimp.
BTW, Trump's getting away with all of this as long as Moscow Mitch is President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Impeachment won't work because Mike Pence is the judge, Mitch McConnel is the Prosecutor, and Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Goursch are the tippers on the Supreme Court as moderators. There aren't going to be the 11 Republican flippers needed to convict(11, since fake Democrat Joe Manchin will vote to clear Trump).
Yeah under 50 voters Bernie dominates polling, but no candidate offers as much to them as him.
It’s a little what I’m worried about, young voter turnout will decide the election, and unless you give people a strong reason to vote they won’t.
It’s a little what I’m worried about, young voter turnout will decide the election, and unless you give people a strong reason to vote they won’t.
