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U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
[Trump] runs for Russia.
You mean where his secret lover Putin lives? You know that they would totally hook up if Trump wasn’t so right wing Republican and Russia has laws against the LGBT community.
 

Ascended Dialga

Well-Known Member
Welp, only one day left until Republicans start pretending to care about the national debt again.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
He'll walk out normally, because he knows that the Senate is too afraid and/or loyal to get the 67 votes needed to convict.

Republicans + Joe Manchin of West Virginia won't convict.

NY AG has to get him before he barricades himself in Florida or runs for Russia.
Mitch McConnell is open to convinction.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
makes sense to make it so that trump can’t run for office again if the few remaining non crazy republicans hope to regain control of their party
He said that he's interested in cutting Trump out of the party. This impeachment is also different, as we got to see for ourselves the high crimes and misdemeanors in action, and everyone in Congress along with the Vice President were on the receiving end of those high crimes and misdemeanors.
 

Phillies

Well-Known Member
He said that he's interested in cutting Trump out of the party. This impeachment is also different, as we got to see for ourselves the high crimes and misdemeanors in action, and everyone in Congress along with the Vice President were on the receiving end of those high crimes and misdemeanors.
You’re right this is different from the last time. The senate is actually thinking about allowing evidence to be presented this time.

I wonder if the threat of crazy people with guns has changed any of their opinions on gun control. It must be hard for them having to worry about someone threatening them and their families for going against Trump.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
You’re right this is different from the last time. The senate is actually thinking about allowing evidence to be presented this time.

I wonder if the threat of crazy people with guns has changed any of their opinions on gun control. It must be hard for them having to worry about someone threatening them and their families for going against Trump.
Yeah. Things operate differently when a Trump literally incited a violent mob to breach the Capitol and it also led to the deaths of 5 people, including a Capitol police officer.
 

Litleonid

Well-Known Member
Never again do I want to hear the both sides argument. Also hoping this 15 minimum wage talk actually becomes real.
The only downside is even with 15 minimum wage, the cost of living will continue to rise as time goes on and that's something that needs to be stopped.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
The only downside is even with 15 minimum wage, the cost of living will continue to rise as time goes on and that's something that needs to be stopped.
And the status quo doesn't want it to be stopped. They want people to remain poor, in debt, etc..
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Yeah. Things operate differently when a Trump literally incited a violent mob to breach the Capitol and it also led to the deaths of 5 people, including a Capitol police officer.
I don’t get why a lot of Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge the indirect role their precious leader had in the tragedy. He sent them to the Capitol and he most likely didn’t expect it to be come both violent and destructive but it would have never had happened if he didn’t tell them to go there. I normally don’t condone law enforcement brutality but they got out of hand and even violent after being told numerous times to leave and then they barged right in and destroyed public property and I think the crowd getting hit by tear gas was justified. They honestly deserved to be punished harshly with tear gas and tazers. Trump had the power to prevent it by telling the mob to just go home but no, he had to give them a reason to become violent.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
I don’t get why a lot of Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge the indirect role their precious leader had in the tragedy. He sent them to the Capitol and he most likely didn’t expect it to be come both violent and destructive but it would have never had happened if he didn’t tell them to go there. I normally don’t condone law enforcement brutality but they got out of hand and even violent after being told numerous times to leave and then they barged right in and destroyed public property and I think the crowd getting hit by tear gas was justified. They honestly deserved to be punished harshly with tear gas and tazers. Trump had the power to prevent it by telling the mob to just go home but no, he had to give them a reason to become violent.
Over 100 rioters have since been arrested and 10 Republicans voted to impeach Trump for inciting an insurrection.
 

Phillies

Well-Known Member
I don’t get why a lot of Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge the indirect role their precious leader had in the tragedy. He sent them to the Capitol and he most likely didn’t expect it to be come both violent and destructive but it would have never had happened if he didn’t tell them to go there. I normally don’t condone law enforcement brutality but they got out of hand and even violent after being told numerous times to leave and then they barged right in and destroyed public property and I think the crowd getting hit by tear gas was justified. They honestly deserved to be punished harshly with tear gas and tazers. Trump had the power to prevent it by telling the mob to just go home but no, he had to give them a reason to become violent.

Trump got exactly what he wanted. Remember he told them that they needed to fight for their country. If anything he probably thinks they didn’t go far enough. I think his endgame was for them to riot enough for him to use the insurrection act to try and hold onto power. It might have succeeded if they had managed to kill Pence or Pelosi like they seemed to want. Remember they wanted to hang Pence and the one treacherous congresswoman tried to give them Pelosi’s location.
 

AznKei

Dawn & Chloe by ddangbi
I don’t get why a lot of Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge the indirect role their precious leader had in the tragedy. He sent them to the Capitol and he most likely didn’t expect it to be come both violent and destructive but it would have never had happened if he didn’t tell them to go there. I normally don’t condone law enforcement brutality but they got out of hand and even violent after being told numerous times to leave and then they barged right in and destroyed public property and I think the crowd getting hit by tear gas was justified. They honestly deserved to be punished harshly with tear gas and tazers. Trump had the power to prevent it by telling the mob to just go home but no, he had to give them a reason to become violent.
Because they thought the white civilization in their country are in decline and Trump is their savior. I also read that some of them did the riots for their "founding fathers" since their country was born from a revolution. Little did they know how much the world changed now, and their mindsets are becoming a joke.

I never wanted to look down to any races, in fact when it's about the pandemic I wanted the whole world to contain it. But those guys with their exceptionalism and spewing misinformations as excuses for not being able to handle crises are causing so much trouble to the world that they deserved to be punished harshly.
 
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Divine Retribution

Conquistador de pan
Tear gas and tasers are not supposed to be punitive measures, they are preventative measures. They didn't shoot tear gas into the mob to punish them, they did it to break them up and prevent further violence. I think that's an important distinction to make as when these force multipliers are applied as punitive measures (as they all too often are, especially against minorities) it's an absolute abortion of justice that should be prosecuted. This was a perfectly justified and appropriate use of those force multipliers.
 

Lykouros

Sandslash fan
The only downside is even with 15 minimum wage, the cost of living will continue to rise as time goes on and that's something that needs to be stopped.
Where I live, minimum wage has been raised to almost $14/hr and it has done almost nothing to help pay rent. My husband makes $15/hr after two years of raises and it only barely covers our rent, and we live in one of the cheapest apartments in our area. Even many skilled jobs requiring a 4-year degree are only paying about minimum wage here, as well. I agree that we need more than minimum wage increases. That's not accounting for us wanting to buy a house, either -- we'd be looking at paying $350,000 minimum for a basic 2-bedroom, 2-bath house with no property, and even that would be a complete steal here. Most homes of that same quality are going for more like $500,000. We don't even live in a big city.
 

bobjr

You ask too many questions
Staff member
Moderator
Minimum wage has been stagnant for so long but prices keep going up for most basics, so it’s not really tied together at all. Even if companies raise prices the blame and attention should be put on them, not the people barely affording a living as is.
 

Phillies

Well-Known Member
Minimum wage has been stagnant for so long but prices keep going up for most basics, so it’s not really tied together at all. Even if companies raise prices the blame and attention should be put on them, not the people barely affording a living as is.

That what I tell people when they say it will just raise prices on everything. I usually respond with prices will go up anyway this just gives them an excuse as to why.
 

The Admiral

the star of the masquerade
The only downside is even with 15 minimum wage, the cost of living will continue to rise as time goes on and that's something that needs to be stopped.
That's largely the fault of people who own companies, though, so we should disincentivize them from doing that.

Or have people wake up enough worldwide for us to move on to a post-capitalist world but lol
 

KillerDraco

Well-Known Member

So Trump wants to start his own party. Barring the fact that the Patriot Party was the name of a Socialist Party started in the 60's, I sincerely hope Trump actually does this, because it would, in all likelihood, split the conservative vote to the extent that the Republican Party would be handing over the 2024 presidency on a silver platter.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
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