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U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History
- Thread starter BigLutz
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It would end if people stopped believing the group labelled "government" and "authority" has the right to control its subjects.
I am opposed to voting because it indeed does legitimize the system, as it is giving permission to those you vote for to force you to abide by how they feel society should interact and be organized. Sure the politicians may enact "laws" that you agree with, but they may also enforce laws you don't see as valid, yet you still have to obey all of them.
Interesting responses to the other points I've raised! Oh wait, I don't see them.
You don't need government for cash to have value, you need people to agree that the cash has value in the first place so they will accept it as payment.
The government distributes the currency and runs the economy. When there's no government, who decides the value of a dollar? What's to keep Sammy the Shady Salesman from deciding you need $20 to buy a gallon of milk?
You just don't get it Craig, no government means no laws and no laws means chaos.
Edit: If someone in charge is reading this, this thread is for the 2016 Election, not a political philosophy discussion. Can you please tell Craig to move said discussion elsewhere?
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AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Technically speaking, by default, I can't. I mean, his eyes will go red if he sees a Mexican.
Navin
MALDREAD
Aegiscalibur
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Well, neither voting nor abstaining really legitimizes anything, only in the minds of people. So if you vote, you could just make it clear that you see it as a tactical choice instead of a legitimizing action. I mean, as long as people are receptive to the explanation.Craig T said:
Nope. I'd sooner die of dysentery.
(For those who missed that day in biology class, dysentery is an inflammatory condition of the intestines caused by bacteria, viruses, parasitic worms, or protozoa. Symptoms include diarrhea with blood, fever, abdominal pain, and rectal tenesmus. Not pleasant, trust me.)
Avenger Angel
Warrior of Heaven
This, this right here, and yet this is the way things are shaping up. I can't vote for either of them because they've both done terrible and embarrassing things that just make me want to vomit and I know the next four, possibly eight, years with either of them is going to be an unbearable nightmare.
Well, I've heard Australia and Canada are nice...
Navin
MALDREAD
Inb4 Sir Mordent, loyal bannerman of Lady Hillary of House Clinton, says otherwise.
Silver Soul
Well-Known Member
Wait, Clinton is as bad as Trump? Man, that must be why she won the vast majority of African American voters in South Carolina.
chicorita3
Well-Known Member
so anybody here eligible to vote tomorrow? I'm voting 
this will be my 2nd time!
this will be my 2nd time!
1rkhachatryan
Call me Robert guys
My problem with a republican candidate is that they are just gonna spend the next four years trying to get rid of what little good Obama was able to accomplish because of them.
I-am-the-peel
Justice Forever
Australia is great economically, but in terms of experience, the best places to live in atm are Canada, Norway, Sweden or Denmark. If Scotland goes independent that would be a nice place to go to.
The reason why I feel Clinton is as 'bad' as Trump in one way is they are both pathological liars that consistently go back on their word. She has repeatedly changed her mind on gay marriage, gun control, immigration, TTIP, mass incarceration and the Iraq War. She insists that she will put harder taxes on Wall Street but is being bankrolled by them. Back when she ran for President in 2008, she was against same-sex marriage, supported the Second Amendment, stood by her Iraq War vote and was opposed to states issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. Flash-forward to now and she backs same-sex marriage, wants tighter gun controls, admits her iraq war vote was a 'mistake' and is an advocate for illegal immigrants. Both her and Trump are two stains on the same cloth; they're both liars originally from the democratic party that don't care about any party principles or their own, and will say anything to get into power regardless of the effects it may have on the people.
Have a look at this video to see how painfully obvious her lies are over the past few decades;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
Clinton was, sadly, always going to win South Carolina, she's always been popular there. Funny you say that she won the 'vast majority' of African American voters in South Carolina given the protest by two young black activists a few days prior regarding Hilary's remarks back in the 1990s regarding the need for mass incarceration of gang members and arrests of those suspected to be gang members back in 1994;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqLfvQfuvsA
Honestly, the main reason I want Bernie to beat Hilary as the Democrat nominee is just so I can watch the American people struggle to decide who they want to be POTUS - a socialist or a fascist. I know which one I'd prefer but given American history it would be horrible for them to have to decide.
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I honestly think Hilary will kinda continue the trends Obama set if she wins. She won't be outstanding, but she'll be positive. After all she's been put through by them she's going to screw over the right and the people who support them more than anything else.
Sure, Peel, Clinton will lose badly.
Well, given how...
1. The Republican Senate has vowed to block Obama's Supreme Court Nominee before even knowing who it is.
2. A meeting by GOP power players at a restaurant in DC, on the night of Obama's inauguration and vowing to "let this president have no accomplishments" in order to make him a one-term President.
3. Sending an open letter --making themselves look foolish-- to the leaders of Iran, our enemy, saying that they would immediatelyundo any agreement made in the nuclear deal.
4. And barely caring about children being poisoned in Flint.
5. And John Boehner inviting Benjamin Netanyahu to give a speech at Congress without consulting the White House.
...I'd say only the biggest idiots in the country would ever vote for him.
Btw, your link is a guy who also posted this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAvm176bZ-8
As for lying, here is Hillary's PolitiFact record.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Here is Trump's
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/
Well, given how...
1. The Republican Senate has vowed to block Obama's Supreme Court Nominee before even knowing who it is.
2. A meeting by GOP power players at a restaurant in DC, on the night of Obama's inauguration and vowing to "let this president have no accomplishments" in order to make him a one-term President.
3. Sending an open letter --making themselves look foolish-- to the leaders of Iran, our enemy, saying that they would immediatelyundo any agreement made in the nuclear deal.
4. And barely caring about children being poisoned in Flint.
5. And John Boehner inviting Benjamin Netanyahu to give a speech at Congress without consulting the White House.
...I'd say only the biggest idiots in the country would ever vote for him.
Btw, your link is a guy who also posted this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAvm176bZ-8
As for lying, here is Hillary's PolitiFact record.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Here is Trump's
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/
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I-am-the-peel
Justice Forever
1.) If your original points were directed at Obama, I don't really see how any of them support your argument that Clinton stands a good chance of winning the 2016 POTUS election. If they were directed at Trump, it doesn't seem to matter anymore how foolish they may make themselves look; his polls are gradually increasing more by more. Based on my own - and I must emphasise my own - take on the debates, Hilary can barely hold her own against Bernie Sanders; imagine what she'll be like with Trump.
No offence, but there are already thousands if not millions of 'idiots' who are voting for him. When he becomes the Republican nominee he'll only gain a lot more and not lose any.
2.) That video was published in 2010 at a time when the publisher belied a police state was coming. At time of writing, I myself and likely many others believe a nuclear war is on the horizon if Trump becomes POTUS and the war in Syria escalates. There are hundreds who believe in conspiracy theories that there'll be a european invasion by muslims in 2016. Its funny to laugh about context after a video has been published years prior but you and I, unless we experienced what went on first hand, can never accurately state the intentions of the publisher.
3.) You got Hilary's and Donald's records mixed up btw. Also as Clinton and Trump leading the polls in the Democrats and Republican races proves, it doesn't matter if president candidates tell the truth anymore. The pair of them are pathological liars who lie repeatedly and yet their popularity gradually soars. One the election comes, no matter how hard other people like perhaps Bernie Sanders may try, the majority of Americans won't care about whether or not Clinton or Trump are lying or not. They like what the pair of them are saying and will blindly vote for either of them, whichever one they believe is the strongest in this time of great fear across the world.
I just feel that the common person in America, watching a debate between Hilary and Donald, will see Hilary being torn apart and be more inclined to vote Trump based on that one whim.
Torpoleon
Well-Known Member
What good has Obama accomplished?