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U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History

bobjr

You ask too many questions
Staff member
Moderator
Possibly even worse for Trump, as it also means his core demographic is shrinking; he's losing the few voters he has that are NOT white men, and those who identify as independent.

Consider it like this. If I had ten chocolate cupcakes, and four of them has a strawberry on top while the others had a cherry, it means 40% have cherries. But, if two of the cupcakes with strawberries are eaten, it means 50% now have cherries.

Does that mean the ones with cherries are more popular due to this change? No, it means the change is the result of the larger percentage being removed.

It also means he's not going down unless they're 100% sure he's bringing the party with him.

They had a meeting to try and see if the healthcare bill has the votes, and it looks like it doesn't. The key here is if Ryan wants to push it or not, because if they make a big push and fail it'll hurt them pretty badly.
 

Mordent99

Banned
It also means he's not going down unless they're 100% sure he's bringing the party with him.

They had a meeting to try and see if the healthcare bill has the votes, and it looks like it doesn't. The key here is if Ryan wants to push it or not, because if they make a big push and fail it'll hurt them pretty badly.

Even Ted Cruz has expressed opposition to it. The Republicans are fighting amongst themselves while the Democrats are firmly united.

If Trump's bill fails, it hurts Trump. And before long, everyone is going to realize that the biggest reason they wanted to repeal Obama's bill is simple: It's Obama's bill.
 

bobjr

You ask too many questions
Staff member
Moderator
Well you have the Republicans who know passing it will be a disaster for them as they lose support, and you have the far right ones who are mad it doesn't take away enough. Basically one side would have to give in, and either way would likely be bad for them.
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO

Mordent99

Banned
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bobjr

You ask too many questions
Staff member
Moderator
It looks like 17% of Americans approve of the new healthcare bill, while 60% oppose. Only 40% of Republicans approve as well.
 

pokemonjeff

interested trader
It looks like 17% of Americans approve of the new healthcare bill, while 60% oppose. Only 40% of Republicans approve as well.

When the healthcare bill is so bad even the republicans are like ew no that won't work, you know it has to be horrendous.

Maybe the base is waking up and realizing that a good chunk of the people who are going to lose healthcare are in fact trump voters.
 

chess-z

campy vampire
the republicans are starting to get whats coming. theyre damned if they vote for it and damned if they vote against. justice, finally
 

Mordent99

Banned
Ryan has just chickened out.
 

The Admiral

the star of the masquerade
Gee, it's almost like most Republican policies have worked against their constituents for an eternity and they got past it by dangling a bible in front of people's faces.

I hope the vote is delayed until never and the left puts forth a single-payer plan, because there's totally any decent amount of the political left (Sanders aside) who has even given that any consideration amirite
 

yuoke

Treasure huntin'
This is the beginning of the end of the RNC.....at least I really hope so. Democrats need to be ready for midterms.
 

Pikachu52

Well-Known Member
This is the beginning of the end of the RNC.....at least I really hope so. Democrats need to be ready for midterms.

The midterms could still be a struggle through.

The Senate map is extremely unfavourable to the Democrats given they have to defend some 23 seats and the Republican's only 8. Plus six of the Republican seats up for grabs are in deep red states, and several Democratic seats are in states Trump won: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni...File:United_States_Senate_elections,_2018.png

They could potentially flip the house given all 435 seats will be up for election and the Democrats only need 24 seats to gain a majority - The Republicans won the house by gaining 63 seats in the midterms of 2010. It's still an uphill battle due to gerrymandering. Plus the polling so far doesn't predict any seat change and the electoral districts seems to lean towards the party of the incumbent: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2018

Democrats also have a harder time getting their base out to vote for them, especially in mid term years. However the historical trend is for wave elections against the incumbent party in non-presidential years. In 2010 the Republicans made enough gains in the House of Representatives to regain a majority which they've kept so far. It took until 2014 for them to take control of the Senate, so a similar path is possible for democrats.

It seems rather odd that with someone as awful as Trump the numbers fall that any potential backlash in the mid terms is containable for Reublicans and potentially non-existent in the senate. There are also state legislative and Gubernatorial elections on the ballot in 2018 - The Reublican's had a lot of success here during the Obama era so they could channel anti-trump resentment into electroal success at the state and local levels. And it's mostly republicans on the ballot meaning they're badly overexposed. If the Democrats can get GOP controlled states to flip they're putting themselves in a good position for the redistricting in 2021 - hopefully they could put themselves in a position to play the gerrymandering card back to the republicans.

http://cookpolitical.com/story/10217
 
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Mordent99

Banned
Is that so, Pikachu?

November 2018

Democrat Senate Candidate: My opponent sided with Trump. Can he explain that?

Republican Incumbent: Uh... You sided with Hillary!

Election Day Headline: Republican Incumbent Ousted in Biggest Landslide in State History with One-Sentence Platform


These will be the easiest mid-term elections in history. When Trump crashes, his backers go with him.
 

U.N. Owen

In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night ...
I sometimes wonder if Trump is a democrat who is dedicated to destroying the republicans so democrats could have a supermajority in the House and Senate in the next election. His statements are more destructive to republicans' approval ratings and possible voters.
 

Ereshkigal

Well-Known Member
Is that so, Pikachu?

November 2018

Democrat Senate Candidate: My opponent sided with Trump. Can he explain that?

Republican Incumbent: Uh... You sided with Hillary!

Election Day Headline: Republican Incumbent Ousted in Biggest Landslide in State History with One-Sentence Platform


These will be the easiest mid-term elections in history. When Trump crashes, his backers go with him.

The moment it came out that Trump molests women and brags about it, he should have crashed and burned and taken his entire party with him. Not gone on to what amounts to a Republican landslide victory.

I don't think we can count on the old rules of what makes and breaks a campaign.
 

yuoke

Treasure huntin'
The moment it came out that Trump molests women and brags about it, he should have crashed and burned and taken his entire party with him. Not gone on to what amounts to a Republican landslide victory.

I don't think we can count on the old rules of what makes and breaks a campaign.

These "trump people" might finally change their minds when they directly get screwed over.
 

AuraChannelerChris

Easygoing Luxray.
I sometimes wonder if Trump is a democrat who is dedicated to destroying the republicans so democrats could have a supermajority in the House and Senate in the next election. His statements are more destructive to republicans' approval ratings and possible voters.

He's a childish Russian schemer, not a childish party wrecker schemer. Blaming almost everyone for everything isn't smart.
 

Mordent99

Banned
The moment it came out that Trump molests women and brags about it, he should have crashed and burned and taken his entire party with him. Not gone on to what amounts to a Republican landslide victory.

I don't think we can count on the old rules of what makes and breaks a campaign.

Landslide victory?? He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. He's the most minor minority President in history, having won by a technicality.
 
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