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U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History

bobjr

You ask too many questions
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It's been memory holed pretty well but GWB tanked U.S. popularity by starting a war on a lie and killing millions, but he stayed quiet so he's quietly being rehabbed.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
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It's been memory holed pretty well but GWB tanked U.S. popularity by starting a war on a lie and killing millions, but he stayed quiet so he's quietly being rehabbed.
Yep. Haven't forgotten the crap his administration pulled.

Same goes with Obama. With all of the drone strikes.
 

Poke Trainer J

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Here's what I think will happen in the next 4 years in America whoever wins the 2020 Election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump: If Biden wins then expect more Government Shutdowns from COVID-19 and Stimulus Checks in attempt to save small businesses from going under as the United States will be up for sale with the Chinese Government buying it out. If Trump wins then Amy Coney Barrett will be confirmed to take over Ruth Bader Ginsburg's seat in the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade by making abortion illegal along with Republicans gaining back control of the House of Representatives from the Democrats. Also expect Biden / Harris to raise taxes on the Middle Class and end the Trump Tax Cuts If elected in 2020.

If neither Biden or Trump win then the decision will be left to Congress where Nancy Pelosi is elected U.S. President since she's the Speaker of the House unless somehow Pete Buttigieg and Andrew Yang manage to become President and Vice President. I feel as though Kamala Harris is really a trojan horse in the happenstance that Biden gets elected and kicks the bucket that she becomes the first Female U.S. President in history. I wasn't much of a fan of Hillary cause she was too liberal, progressive, and not as much of a moderate as Joe Biden is. I would like to see a conservative or moderate democrat in the lead but given the current political climate the odds aren't looking so good.
 

bobjr

You ask too many questions
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Joe Biden is literally the definition of conservative Democrat, and isn’t that far removed from Hillary in that regard.

The only candidate we’ve had on the left in decades is candidate Obama, and that went out the door after the election.

Also if you did any research you’d find Biden’s tax plan doesn’t raise taxes if you make less than 400k, but you love insane conspiracy theories more than anything else.
 

KillerDraco

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If neither Biden or Trump win then the decision will be left to Congress where Nancy Pelosi is elected U.S. President since she's the Speaker of the House unless somehow Pete Buttigieg and Andrew Yang manage to become President and Vice President.

I assure you, there is literally zero chance of that happening.
 

Zora

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lmao, Barret is going to be confirmed regardless if Trump or Biden wins election--she's too essential to what the GOP does next.

You're giving Biden too much credit if you think his would-be administration will accomplish much of anything. Unless Biden preemptively makes a power grab--stack the courts, annex DC/PR, expand voter rights, redress electoral college, outlaw gerrymandering, etc., the combination of cleaning up Trump's messes, his policies always at risk for dying in a stolen court, and his own conservative bent will make his administration stillborn. The GOP knows this, which is why they'll rush Barrett (isn't like they're likely to win the elections anyway) and hope to try again in 2022 (and 2024 for presidency specifically) under more favorable circumstances.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
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Joe Biden is literally the definition of conservative Democrat, and isn’t that far removed from Hillary in that regard.

The only candidate we’ve had on the left in decades is candidate Obama, and that went out the door after the election.

Also if you did any research you’d find Biden’s tax plan doesn’t raise taxes if you make less than 400k, but you love insane conspiracy theories more than anything else.
Exactly.

Obama turned out to be a centrist in progressive clothing sadly. Just more of the same. Yep it definitely did go out the door quickly after the election.
 

bobjr

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Who would have thought Borat would be the one to out Giuliani as a pedo.
 

Poke Trainer J

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So just out of curiosity how much food and drink does the United States import from China?
 

PoDiRancher

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No no, we want our borders closed due to COVID and the lack of policy in the states. Canada keeps closing the borders and Trump is trying to open them which a majority of Canada does not want, just the wealthy and COVID deniers are against border closures. But I have a feeling that we would open them sooner if Biden wins.

It didn't sound like you meant that when you said "There's also a growing number of people viewing the US as our enemy" and that they want it closed "indefinitely".

Here's what I think will happen in the next 4 years in America whoever wins the 2020 Election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump: If Biden wins then expect more Government Shutdowns from COVID-19 and Stimulus Checks in attempt to save small businesses from going under as the United States will be up for sale with the Chinese Government buying it out. If Trump wins then Amy Coney Barrett will be confirmed to take over Ruth Bader Ginsburg's seat in the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade by making abortion illegal along with Republicans gaining back control of the House of Representatives from the Democrats. Also expect Biden / Harris to raise taxes on the Middle Class and end the Trump Tax Cuts If elected in 2020.

If neither Biden or Trump win then the decision will be left to Congress where Nancy Pelosi is elected U.S. President since she's the Speaker of the House unless somehow Pete Buttigieg and Andrew Yang manage to become President and Vice President. I feel as though Kamala Harris is really a trojan horse in the happenstance that Biden gets elected and kicks the bucket that she becomes the first Female U.S. President in history. I wasn't much of a fan of Hillary cause she was too liberal, progressive, and not as much of a moderate as Joe Biden is. I would like to see a conservative or moderate democrat in the lead but given the current political climate the odds aren't looking so good.

A moderate democrat would be ideal at this time, I think. If democrats could muster a viable candidate who wasn't pro-choice then I could overlook some of the other things they may try to implement (universal basic income, decreased military budget, etc). A lot of their social initiatives, environmental policies and such are favorable. I also think that democrats have a better plan to handle COVID-19. I think since their base has shifted so far left and won't budge on many issues that they don't bother running a moderate. This is a problem on the right as well, but to a somewhat lesser degree. Hopefully that changes because we need more nuanced options and real diversity of ideas.

Who would have thought Borat would be the one to out Giuliani as a pedo.

I didn't hear anything about this, I can only imagine how much damage he caused as a man in such a powerful position as he had. Despicable.
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO

Current early vote is 44 million, roughly %30 of the total votes in 2016.

Early votes in Florida are apparently 50-50 for Biden-Trump, meaning many early voters in swing states are also dedicated Republicans and the far-right. In that case, Trump likely still managed to increase his side's turnout by tapping further into the far-right vote.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

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It didn't sound like you meant that when you said "There's also a growing number of people viewing the US as our enemy" and that they want it closed "indefinitely".



A moderate democrat would be ideal at this time, I think. If democrats could muster a viable candidate who wasn't pro-choice then I could overlook some of the other things they may try to implement (universal basic income, decreased military budget, etc). A lot of their social initiatives, environmental policies and such are favorable. I also think that democrats have a better plan to handle COVID-19. I think since their base has shifted so far left and won't budge on many issues that they don't bother running a moderate. This is a problem on the right as well, but to a somewhat lesser degree. Hopefully that changes because we need more nuanced options and real diversity of ideas.



I didn't hear anything about this, I can only imagine how much damage he caused as a man in such a powerful position as he had. Despicable.
Disagree with you on that one. People are suffering both monetarily, health care wise, lack of jobs wise and due to pollution and the 'best' the Dems could do was put up a right wing moderate centrist, ie: Biden.

Sure some independents like him and some R's and more conservative Dems do, but in the end, it leaves a lot of voters out in the cold who are tired of the same old incrementalism of inching towards any kind of remote change.

That kind of thing is ruining people's lives, let alone killing them. As for having someone who wasn't pro-choice, a lot of people would disagree with you there, since that kind of candidate would be able to affect women's lives (over their health care, etc..).

Seriously? I can say the same thing about moderates, they'd rather move further to the right just to maintain the status quo, than to ever move an inch over to the left. People on the left have been compromising for years and it's hurt them in many ways (less pay at jobs, paying more for health care, etc.).

The base may have moved over to the left, but it's not extremely over that way (and even then, moderates, centrists and conservatives on both sides hate it). People want common sense change/reforms, and the Dems, etc., don't want anything to do with it, as it would affect their bottom line, their donors and corporations.

They'll do anything to paint anyone remotely to the left of them as 'socialists, radicals, extremists', if they even dare to challenge the status quo. It's been happening for many years. Look at FDR and the R's back then, he was trying to pass the New Deal and the R's did everything in their power to try to stop him. Same game that both sides are playing now.
 
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bobjr

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Literally all the candidates the Dems ran were moderates at best except Warren and Sanders.

It’s kind of like how they portray AOC as a radical socialist and Omar as a literal terrorist, when really they’re just 2 average millenials on most ideas and hobbies.

Plus if being pro-choice is a deal breaker for you you’re just an asshole who has dead women’s blood on your hands because Jerry Falwell thought his segregation plans were too unpopular
 
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