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U.S. Politics 2021: Ignore the Neighslayers

bobjr

You ask too many questions
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The GOP in several states have actually done this to kill several bills, and honestly at this point you might as well do the same thing. There's some weird contingent that swears that the GOP is just one inspiring speech away from working together, but they're literally subservient to Trump and taking power to themselves now.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
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nel3

Crimson Dragon
Speaking of fascism, Arizona is bringing back a method from 1945 to execute prisoners in 2021 and beyond. The last gas killing in Arizona was in 1982, the inmate took 18 minutes of agonizing pain to die and they think it's good to refurbish and put this back into use in the very near future... some one is missing the irony or is aware of its horrible legacy.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Speaking of fascism, Arizona is bringing back a method from 1945 to execute prisoners in 2021 and beyond. The last gas killing in Arizona was in 1982, the inmate took 18 minutes of agonizing pain to die and they think it's good to refurbish and put this back into use in the very near future... some one is missing the irony or is aware of its horrible legacy.
Even worse is that they want to use the very same poison that killed millions of Jews. Yeah that’s definitely not going to go over well with the remaining Holocaust survivors and their families.
 

bobjr

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That’s actually a big part of why the Death Penalty is bad and needs reformed, because it’s stated the prisoner must suffer before they die, and why a firing squad is arguably the most humane way of doing it.

If you wanted to kill someone just give them O2
Poisoning where they just die without knowing it.
 

nel3

Crimson Dragon
Even worse is that they want to use the very same poison that killed millions of Jews. Yeah that’s definitely not going to go over well with the remaining Holocaust survivors and their families.
Thanks for confirming my hunch, they are trying to use the same compounds as that German dictator used. Maybe they would have considered this if the previous president wasn't suck a fascist but it's hard to consider this wasn't their plan even if he wasn't the previous President. They did have issues with thier injection formula efficacy and availability and were looking for other options.

A firing squad is a bit hard on the operator's psyche to say the least but it could work with some modification. Have 5 firearms mechanically mounted and pointed at secured prisoners and have 5 different individuals confirm the sentence. Then the signal goes to a random firearm to complete the task. One firearm to respond to 1 of 5 random confirm signals could also work. If the executioners are ok with having doing the execution themselves then they could accept the facts they did it. I don't know if everyone would be comfortable to pull the trigger consistently and many times and not be affected by those actions later on in their life.
 
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BGMaxie

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Vernikova

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Even worse is that they want to use the very same poison that killed millions of Jews. Yeah that’s definitely not going to go over well with the remaining Holocaust survivors and their families.
No, they're not. Zyklon B contains hydrogen cyanide, but the latter is only one ingredient in the former. According to the documents that were released, they're just using hydrogen cyanide, which has been used as a method of execution in the U.S. before. In fact, the documents show that it's not Zyklon B. Rather, they are using the traditional method of execution by hydrogen cyanide by combining it with potassium cyanide and sulfuric acid.
 

Poke Trainer J

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Relatedly, the reason why getting everyone vaccinated is to achieve herd immunity, or at least contain the virus enough that it's a manageable endemic disease (a la the flu). Pandemics and endemic diseases are a public health issue, you cannot frame them in terms of personal health.
Based on what I've read on the news recently, the Biden Administration is apparently threatening to ship ALL unused doses of the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccines to other countries as a way of punishing millions of Americans who still refuse to get the jab or to get fully vaccinated before the doses are completely exported. Between this and vaccine lotteries ran by politicians like Gavin Newsom and Andrew Cuomo I find this to be very petty and unethical on their part. At least it's better than the dystopian alternative of mass riots / protests and martial law being implemented If the vaccine does end up getting mandated especially from employers.

My guess as to why Biden would want to close the window of opportunity for Americans to get vaccinated is because these doses are very expensive to design and manufacture and feels that it's a waste of money to leave them behind for a demographic of people who can't make up their minds whether to take it or not. So in a way the Biden Administration is "politely" saying that Americans had 3 months to decide whether to get vaccinated and now their time is up and will have to wear a face mask out in public for the rest of their lives as a way for them to pay the price for their own ignorance. Of course me being on the losing side of this argument doesn't help matters much either so yeah...
 

Sham

These leaks have me distressed
Based on what I've read on the news recently, the Biden Administration is apparently threatening to ship ALL unused doses of the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccines to other countries as a way of punishing millions of Americans who still refuse to get the jab or to get fully vaccinated before the doses are completely exported. Between this and vaccine lotteries ran by politicians like Gavin Newsom and Andrew Cuomo I find this to be very petty and unethical on their part. At least it's better than the dystopian alternative of mass riots / protests and martial law being implemented If the vaccine does end up getting mandated especially from employers.

My guess as to why Biden would want to close the window of opportunity for Americans to get vaccinated is because these doses are very expensive to design and manufacture and feels that it's a waste of money to leave them behind for a demographic of people who can't make up their minds whether to take it or not. So in a way the Biden Administration is "politely" saying that Americans had 3 months to decide whether to get vaccinated and now their time is up and will have to wear a face mask out in public for the rest of their lives as a way for them to pay the price for their own ignorance. Of course me being on the losing side of this argument doesn't help matters much either so yeah...
Except that doesn't make any sense. If herd vaccinations don't happen then the pandemic will continue. It's better to have a bunch of undecided by people with the opportunity than no opportunities at all. In fact it was just announced today that some medications neutralizes the vaccine and makes it ineffective as if you never took it at all. I'm sure those people who can't + the people who take drugs that suppresses the vaccine will be dependent on those who can taking it. I'm sure people are becoming weirded out by the push of the vaccine. States are now offering money and school scholarships to seniors who get the vaccine. It's getting weird.
 

Poke Trainer J

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Except that doesn't make any sense. If herd vaccinations don't happen then the pandemic will continue. It's better to have a bunch of undecided by people with the opportunity than no opportunities at all. In fact it was just announced today that some medications neutralizes the vaccine and makes it ineffective as if you never took it at all. I'm sure those people who can't + the people who take drugs that suppresses the vaccine will be dependent on those who can taking it. I'm sure people are becoming weirded out by the push of the vaccine. States are now offering money and school scholarships to seniors who get the vaccine. It's getting weird.
That still doesn't change the fact that there's been a dramatic decline in new cases and deaths pertaining to COVID-19 since this pandemic started back in March 2020. The vaccination effort is working though there's still a few hurdles we need to get through instead of being too eager to declare victory prematurely like what the Mainstream Media is doing right now. The current situation with the pandemic in countries like India, Brazil, and now Vietnam is still far worse than the United States and the rest of the world.
 

Sham

These leaks have me distressed
That still doesn't change the fact that there's been a dramatic decline in new cases and deaths pertaining to COVID-19 since this pandemic started back in March 2020. The vaccination effort is working though there's still a few hurdles we need to get through instead of being too eager to declare victory prematurely like what the Mainstream Media is doing right now. The current situation with the pandemic in countries like India, Brazil, and now Vietnam is still far worse than the United States and the rest of the world.
I'm not sure what your first sentence has to do with what I said. I'm saying if what you're saying is correct than Biden should keep the vaccines in America and he's being dumb. Obviously helping other countries is a nice action but marketing it as "punishing" Americans is ill worded. I also still stand by the fact that offering lotteries of money and scholarships to people is just going to increase their suspicion more.
 

Poke Trainer J

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I'm not sure what your first sentence has to do with what I said. I'm saying if what you're saying is correct than Biden should keep the vaccines in America and he's being dumb. Obviously helping other countries is a nice action but marketing it as "punishing" Americans is ill worded. I also still stand by the fact that offering lotteries of money and scholarships to people is just going to increase their suspicion more.
What would Biden be able to gain politically for completely exporting the vaccine to other countries while leaving Americans who aren't fully vaccinated not fully vaccinated? "Punishing" isn't the right word when I think he's really trying to market it more as "Paying the Price" for Americans choosing not to get fully vaccinated and having to live with the consequences of those actions. What sane politician is desperate enough to offer lotteries and scholarships to people just to get the jab?
 

Vernikova

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Based on what I've read on the news recently, the Biden Administration is apparently threatening to ship ALL unused doses of the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccines to other countries as a way of punishing millions of Americans who still refuse to get the jab or to get fully vaccinated before the doses are completely exported
When did they say this?
 
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