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U.S. Politics 2021: Ignore the Neighslayers

AuraChannelerChris

"Tis an honor to be recognized."

bobjr

You ask too many questions
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Hershel Walker has talked extensively about how much brain damage he's gotten from football, so he might not.
 

AuraChannelerChris

"Tis an honor to be recognized."
Hershel Walker has talked extensively about how much brain damage he's gotten from football, so he might not.
...Yeeeah, not concerning at all that someone like that wants to lead people.
 

nel3

Crimson Dragon
It's great to know that the strength of the democrats spine is just as hard as the republicans unwilling to correctly oppose that rotten orange. 2 Republican spies in the Democrat pool really poison the well. The Democratic spine wasn't very hard to begin with. I just want mansion to leave the party but him forcing Biden to cut the deal is horrible. There is another Republican that needs to be booted or replaced...
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
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PoDiRancher

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How many years has the US NOT been basing its economy on war, or actively at at war? 0.

Unless people literally revolt and destroy the Military-Industrial Complex, and I mean literally raze it to the ground with fire and weapons, and get rid of all possible genetic heirs to the money and power.

But no one will.

Because forever chasing the strawman that is The Leftest Leftist, the truest Scotsman, is much more important.

Wow, treason and familicide, relax.
First off, no one is pro-abortion. It's called "pro-choice" for a reason.

Second, I do not agree with abortion. I do believe it is murder, and the idea of it bothers me. HOWEVER, I also know since I cannot get pregnant, my opinion on it shouldn't be a deciding factor.

Third, I have spoken to those children. I went to school with foster kids. There were foster kids in my family. I grew up watching them suffer. I grew up watching them die, and as a mere adolescent I could do nothing about it. It is why I advocate for them now. It is clear you have yet to actually speak to these unwanted children. It is clear you haven't checked to see where they end up.

Fourth, with that said, feel free to look up the current and ongoing issues with Texas' foster care system. Then feel free to look up the current issues of foster care within your own state.

Fifth, the Pro-Life party is filled with people who'll never have to deal with consequences of pregnancy and abortion, in particular, men who cannot have children. This is the biggest irony to the movement. You want to make decisions on something that doesn't even affect you. It's no different from straight people trying to ban same-sex marriage. It's easy to ban something when you don't have to bare the consequences of that ban. Is there ever a question as to why men who are Pro-Life have yet to ban vasectomies? That prevents the creation of life entirely.


Sixth, and finally, if you truly do care for these children, help them after they're born:
- Improve the foster care system
- Improve the education system
- Promote better access to child healthcare
- Make it easier same-sex couples to adopt
- Combat child sex trafficking
- Combat school bullying
- Promote access to mental health services for children

There are millions of children already here that need your help. If you truly are Pro-Life, actually support their lives.

Rep. Frederica Wilson said it best: "You only care about a fetus until the moment it is born."

Could've swore I responded to this.

"No one is pro-abortion. It's called "pro-choice" for a reason."

If someone is for the legal right to abortion, then they're pro-abortion, just like someone who is pro-gay marriage is for gay marriage. I don't know what kind of semantics you're trying to play at here, but your logic is off.

"I do not agree with abortion. I do believe it is murder."

If I may be so pedantic, abortion is not murder. Since abortion is legal, it's "just" killing. Murder is a crime, and abortion is not a crime, therefore it's not murder. Not all purposeful destruction of human life is murder, there's instances in which it's legal. Whether or not it should be is what's up for debate. People don't value early stage human life or criminal life, so we allow the killing of the unborn and certain criminals (I don't think we should kill either of them, for the record).

"I cannot get pregnant, my opinion on it shouldn't be a deciding factor."

Anyway, whether or not you can get pregnant means nothing. Some women can't get pregnant, you would chase them from this debate? We live in a civil society where we all have equal say regardless of our biological differences. You may as well tell a woman she can't have a say on male's circumcision practices. That's a barbaric, outdated, unAmerican way of thinking, and is more importantly, illogical.

" I have spoken to those children."

It's great you've spoken to these unwanted children, it's just too bad you don't defend their right to life. What's your point anyway? I have family and friends who were unwanted, and adopted out. I'm glad they were not killed, and so are they, as are most people. Even the worst foster care is better than a needless, violent demise. You're painting the foster care system as a fate worse than death, by your logic you seem to be implying that turning orphanages into slaughterhouses could be interpreted as an act of mercy. I think most of these people are glad to be alive, or will be some day; and if not, if even only one of them is, then thank God they may live the life given to them.

"The Pro-Life party is filled with people who'll never have to deal with consequences of pregnancy and abortion, in particular, men who cannot have children."

The consequences of pregnancy? You mean the consequences which are highly avoidable outside of sexual assault cases, which comprise ~1% of abortions? Actions do tend to have consequences, yes. And men can have children, they may not birth them but they do have them.

"You want to make decisions on something that doesn't even affect you."

Yeah, of course. So do you. As do we all. The slavery of black people didn't affect white people, and yet white people wanted to end something which did not affect them. If anything in some cases it benefitted them, and yet did the right thing by making decisions on something that didn't even affect them. Your logic is poor, and your sense of morality displaced.

"It's no different from straight people trying to ban same-sex marriage."

Marriage had a specific definition, meaning, history, and cultural significance. Nobody was against same-sex unions in America, only against infringing upon the institution of marriage. Arguably, however, the government shouldn't even be involved with marriage to begin with. That'd be sort of like them enforcing male-only pastors just because it's Biblically/culturally accurate/traditional, it's not their place.

"Is there ever a question as to why men who are Pro-Life have yet to ban vasectomies?"

I think you mean enforce vasectomies, not ban them. But enforcing vasectomies is ridiculous, and a total false equivalence. For one thing, it's a preventative measure and we already have an abundance of cheap/free, widely available non-surgical options for prevention which can (but aren't, obviously) utilized by both men and women, and the much dreaded but 99% effective method of abstinence is always there. Also, vasectomies are not always reversible. It's a frankly stupid point and I can't believe this isn't the first time I've heard it, do you actually think it's a good talking point? That's sad, because it objectively isn't.

"If you truly do care for these children, help them after they're born."

Kinda hard to do that when they're killed. If you truly do care for these children, help them be born. If you believe abortion is "murder" then you shouldn't support murder regardless of if you feel you shouldn't have a say in the matter, because when it comes to killing people, we all should have a say.

And forget children for a moment, there's full grown adults who need to be considered too. Would you tell survivors of attempted abortions that they shouldn't be alive? That the abortion should've been a success, they don't belong here because of their mother's choice? Children, especially unborn ones, can't defend themselves. But adults can. Tell her she should be dead:

 

nel3

Crimson Dragon
i love how giddy the democrats are about "closing the deal" that they caved into trying to comply with the 2 republicans they have hiding in their party. quit the happy BS of meaningful progress, you failed miserably in your very few important tasks because you are afraid to lose monetary and political support. the way to deal with it is damn the corporate/republican naysayers and give them an ultimatum to obey or get out... what happened to the +$3billion bill?? oh yeah, you kneecapped yourself...
 

bobjr

You ask too many questions
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Right now I would do my best to lower the amount by taking off a few years from the total deal rather than cut programs, only because it’s better to set up the programs and force them to try and cut them later on, rather than take something out that was promised and will benefit people, and risk voting motivation next year, if it comes to that because who knows what Sinema wants.
 

nel3

Crimson Dragon
they still screwed up by caving to the 2 cavities' whims. some programs are adversely affected by some time based delays ie climate programs. the climate programs will always get the shaft as along as the unsustainable oil industry suppresses them for a few more hundred million a year the 2 parties have no spine. one is completely corrupt and spineless to their perceived leader. the other is slightly less corrupt and a huge push over to the other side and accepting their BS excuses. being a push over doesnt force the other side to say "maybe we should be nicer/go lighter on them??". give an inch take a lightyear is their motto all while tossing no2 on their supporters and pandering to the right minority support.

the republicans are perfectly fitted to kneecap any program later on. they just threaten support, cut funding and the dems will say thats how the cookie crumbles. the people will be none the wiser and think the program was doomed to fail from the start.
 

nel3

Crimson Dragon
Time to go hunting Boogaloo Boys, then.

Since THEY were behind that, despite misguided anarchists and their memes assuming otherwise.
if you see them in florida then its very easy. claim they were protesters blocking the road and just continue driving forward. its legal to do that now. its on the protesters to get out of your way...
 

Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!

They’re going to let him get away with being a mass shooter
What aggravates me is that the word "victim" is a pretty objective term.

If I shot a serial killer in my yard, the serial killer was my victim.

The online dictionary defines victim as such: "a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action."

The serial killer I shot in this scenario was harmed through another event or action.

Of course, that isn't the only problem. We shouldn't even be having a debate on whether a guy who just went to a protest and took lives that are never coming back committed a crime or not. I get that everyone is entitled to a trial, but now they want to play semantics.
 

nel3

Crimson Dragon
Yup, he is a DINO. That is so not a Democrat mentality.
i think his "patriotic" speech was aimed at the other republican hiding in the democratic party. i think he got paid for saying those by some shadow donors.
 
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