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U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History

Silver Soul

Well-Known Member
So this month has been really odd with Republicans. John Boehner decides to help Benjamin Netanyahu's election by inviting him to Congress without the President's notice and talking about how they wish Obama was like Bibi. Also, Tehran Tom Cotton and the rest of the 47 traitors decided to write an open letter to Iran on how they can reject the deal by electing a new President in the MIDDLE of the negotiations which is blatant sabotage. Both of those things really did NOT set well with Americans and Israelis alike. I mean, so petty.

Also, Bibi was so desperate in the Israeli elections he decided to be honest about him. Like pretty much saying he doesn't want a Palestinian state as long as he's in office, pretty much making his talks in 2009 all lies. Also, he was so desperate he had to warn the right-wing that Arab voters are really turning out to vote. Hm...

You know, now I get why Republicans love Bibi. He's a warhawk and fear monger-er who wants to create perpetual wars, is neglectful of his middle-class citizens, and is also an opportunistic racist.
 

WizardTrubbish

much more beastly
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Senator Ted Cruz of Texas announced on Monday morning that he would run for president in 2016, becoming the first Republican candidate to declare himself officially in the race

Unsurprising, although he's not going to win. Nobody as despised by the establishment as Cruz has a prayer at the nomination.
 

bobjr

You ask too many questions
Staff member
Moderator
Plus Ted Cruz wasn't born in America, so he has no shot of winning it.
 

Silver Soul

Well-Known Member
Bibi really shouldn't have pissed off the President for lying about being for the two-state solution and then race-baited the Arab-Israeli voters in order to drive out his Likud base to win the election. Of course Bibi tried to walk back on it but he left the Obama Administration no choice but to "re-assess" their partnership. I mean, AIPAC is for it for God's sake.

Also, WH Chief of Staff says Israel's 50-year occupation must end now.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.648465
 

ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Ahram: The resurrection of the fearful Copt
British Broadcasting Corporation: Egypt Brotherhood chief Mohammed Badie sentenced to death
Reuters: Yemen militiamen say captured two Iranian officers in Aden

Call it a brewing peasant revolt or something else, members of the Coptic Orthodox Church now perceive a dissipation in the unity offered by their leaders and Egyptian President Abdul-Fatah Al-Sisi. A woman recounted this shift after that Christmas visit, indicating that Copts are increasingly viewed as blindly following Sisi’s orders after ongoing attacks against any remaining churches. Other Copts are expressing gratitude for affirming their existence after the rampages by the Muslim Brotherhood, with those demonstrations apparently not having reached them. For all intents and purposes, this presence is now relegated to “symbolic gestures”, obviously unsatisfactory for younger Copts’ demands. The Coptic Orthodox hierarchy cooperated with the security apparatus, such as it still is, to fence members who’d supposedly asserted themselves in citizenship back in line with its official positions, so that it and it alone can determine who can speak for Copts. Thus do we have unconditional support for any government programs in exchange for a blank check to direct the daily spirituality of the general public. I’ll blame none of you for concluding that this approach rings an eerie bell, and said jihad group’s disintegration could speak for itself through these and other courts. The court session proceeded on a live broadcast across Egypt, thankfully with no disruptions from a certain franchise to the northeast, and a certain preacher’s son has kept the attention of “local and international human rights organizations”. How many other networks did the Quds Force end up setting up to destabilize as much of the Middle East as it could? Abdul-Malik Al-Houthi’s fellow insurgents have had more than enough time to consolidate their current campaign and start targeting the House of Saud directly, so I wouldn’t worry too much about any arrangements without regular military uniforms. The militias fighting the Houthis said that they captured the Quds Force officers separately, under the cover of the current attack, with a mortar shell landing and killing two more Saudi officers on Friday. Meanwhile, as these strikes enter their third week, we also see an ambush targeting allied units loyal to Ali Abdullah Saleh, keeping Iran’s special warfare apparatus relatively off for now. Neither Ali Khamenei nor Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi could find their positions enviable within the Islamic Thirty Years’ War, making the National Volunteer Organization and Xi Jinping’s separate imperatives that much clearer unto them.:

Fox News Channel: Al-Qaeda Says US Drones Kill 2 Leaders in Pakistan
Express Tribune: Never forget: Parties express renewed resolve to create Hazara province
Express Tribune: Representing minorities: Karachi skyline will have ‘Asia’s largest’ cross

After those initial waves, the constant claims of terror against the encroachment of modernity, now could we see a start to preparations to dissolve that notorious organization, marking a decisive turn in the global jihad’s bloody path. Afghanistan must keep its own tapestry of roads should any grander trade routes sneak up to it, but for the moment, the tribal regions next door have their infestations of jihadists, with American drones and jets apparently assisting the attacks, a total of 400 in the past decade, according to the New America Foundation. The Hazara Shiites must have their own entanglements against other jihad groups sponsored or manipulated by the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate. The Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz Sharif’s organization – now favors its own commemorations of the protest in question, but a key group representing the people involved accused it to failing to prioritize this demand. This group and the others plan to host a conference in Islamabad to bring the issue before Pakistan’s lawmakers, but other minorities might push onward with greater resolve. The cross is currently under construction at a Christian cemetery in Karachi, scheduled to be at least 20 feet deep. The family in charge of the project intends to project an image of compassion within Pakistan, attracting Muslims and Christians alike, one more step for the aforementioned depopulation avalanche today, certain to lap this country’s presidential campaign field.:

YouTube: Rand Paul: Defeat the Washington Machine

Okay, then. That power outage minutes after Kentucky Senator Rand Paul’s announcement must’ve caused more than a few chuckles in disbelief, but now, we see Hillary Clinton adding her voice, such as it is. The “President Paul! President Paul!” chants could be a rather droll touch, but if any of you are currently watching Twitter, the signals might be clear enough. The above ad runs for about a minute, as one might expect, with profiles certain to erupt worldwide, and here we’ll sit, stand, or type. One gets the distinct impression that whatever this country’s bigger corporations have in mind, they can only react upon realizing the true import of Armand-Jean Richelieu’s activities four centuries ago. Indo-Pacific Asia's steadiness might and will likely not need much longer before that avalanche spills into it, as well.
 
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Templeton

Banned
Unsurprising, although he's not going to win. Nobody as despised by the establishment as Cruz has a prayer at the nomination.

After his little incident where he scared a three-year-old by telling him the world was on fire it's gonna take a miracle.

Oh hey everyone, I'm new here.

bobjr, I should mention that, contrary to what Orly Taitz says, you do not have to be born in America to be considered a "native born citizen." (I have a whole essay somewhere dismantling the "birther argument"). Still, I doubt he'll win.

PM me if you need anything.
 
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This just in: Obama conceded executive authority to congress, they will now have the power to gut the provisions in the Iranian nucleur agreement. I don't know if there are hidden political motives for doing this or whether he just caved to Republican pressure, but this is beyond outrageous. If you're feeling betrayed right now, it's because you should be.
 

Templeton

Banned
I found something very interesting in a magazine article from Ozy. (I can't post links, seeing as I'm a newbie, so you'll have to take my word for it here.) As we all know, approval rating is a good indication of how well-liked a candidate is. The thing is, a LOT of folks who consider themselves Presidential contenders for 2016 aren't doing well in their home states.

Here's what the Ozy poll showed, and each one is the state approval rating for each would-be candidate (all of these polls except Jeb Bush range from 2014 to 2015):

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio: 53%
Ohio Gov. John Kasich: 55%
Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry: 57%
Indiana Gov. Mike Pence: 62% (although this poll was taken before the uproar over the state’s ill-conceived religious freedom law)
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush: 67

Those aren't bad, but many did worse:

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul: 47%
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker: 43%
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz - 41 percent
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie - 35 percent
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal - 27 percent

I'm not saying these polls mean much, really. If Jeb were to win the nomination, he'd be very popular in Florida, and that's a big swing state. But don't forget, Romney failed to win his own state, his running mate's home state, and the home states of a lot of big name Republicans. Not something to be proud of.
 
Plus Ted Cruz wasn't born in America, so he has no shot of winning it.

Incorrect. Although he wasn't born on American soil he can still claim citizenship. The 14th amendment states, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside". Basically, he is a citizen because his mother was (and has never been anything but) an American citizen at the time of his birth. So yeah, as much as i'd like for that statement to be true, regardless of whether it was a joke, he is still a US citizen.

Also, i've been gone for a number of months and i'm honestly surprised this sub-forum is still here. I must've at least missed a ton of bans?
 

Templeton

Banned
You want the truth about the whole "birther" thing? Listen closely because there's a test on this later. (Lol, just kidding.)

In a nutshell, "birthers" as they are called, claim President Barack Obama is not a natural-born American citizen, which would make him ineligible for the position he currently occupies. The name "birther" comes from the fact that they believe his birth certificate to be a forgery, and that his real birth certificate (which he is supposedly hiding) proves that he was born in Kenya/Indonesia/wherever. This rumor was started during the 2008 campaign by, ironically, some of the angrier supporters of Hillary Clinton (not Clinton herself, as some claim), who were upset that she was losing the Democratic primary to Obama, and was picked up by many on the far-right fringe after Obama was elected.

The thing is, this theory, like most conspiracy theories, is absurd when actual logic is applied. In order for such a claim to work, it would require either a) planning by "Them" going back half a century (Honolulu newspapers reported his birth), in a time when the idea of a non-white President was laughable, as well as a lot of natural charm, brilliance and political success on the part of their supposed puppet to actually get elected 47 years later, or b) Obama not only successfully forging his long-form birth certificate, but also fabricating those newspaper announcements, fabricating his college records, bribing immigration officials, and bribing or fooling election officials. (Wouldn't someone capable of that simply bribe a few Republican Representatives to make sure such nonsense stopped?)

For the record, under current laws, anyone born to an American citizen is also a natural-born American citizen, no matter where this occurred. The President was born before this law was implemented, but even under the statutes he was born under, he only needs to spend a few years in the United States to claim natural-born citizenship; his academic record alone validates that claim. Some claim that being a natural-born citizen isn't enough — you must actually be born in the US to run for President. This is in spite of the fact that the Constitution does not make such a requirement, only requiring a) either natural-born citizen status or being a citizen of the US at the time the constitution was ratified (the latter doesn't apply anymore, but it's why George Washington was allowed to be president despite not being a natural born citizen), b) having lived in the US for fourteen years, and c) being at least 35 years old. Even if there were a "born on US soil" requirement, there is ample evidence confirming that Obama was born in Hawaii. (This, by the way, is why Ted Cruz is, indeed eligible to be President.)

One variation claims that, since Obama's father (a native of British Kenya) held British citizenship at the time of his son's birth, then Obama holds dual US and British citizenship, which they feel would make him ineligible even if he was a natural-born citizen. However, there is nothing in the Constitution saying that dual citizenship makes a candidate ineligible, and even if there was, the 14th Amendment to the Constitution would override it. Other claims allege that Obama's mother had renounced her US citizenship and, by extension, her son's (she had not, and even if she did it wouldn't have affected Obama's status), that a trip by Obama to Pakistan in 1981 could only have been accomplished with a foreign passport due to an alleged ban on travel between the US and Pakistan (no such ban existed), and that Obama's enrollment in a school in Indonesia in his youth could only have been done if he wasn't a US citizen at the time (living outside the US as a minor, as ruled in Perkins v. Elg, does not cause you to lose your citizenship).

Another variation claims that Obama being born in Hawaii means that he's not a natural-born citizen, the argument being that Hawaii is not legally part of the US, but rather, is an independent kingdom under US occupation — and therefore, nobody who was born there can claim natural-born US citizenship unless they meet one of the other requirements for it. This is only believed by people who insist that Virginia is not truly a state because it's a "commonwealth". (In other words, it's absurd.)

Ironically, Obama's 2008 opponent, John McCain, was born in the Panama Canal Zone (or Panama itself, some believe), meaning that, by some variants on this theory, he too is ineligible to be President. Of course, this ignores the fact that his father was a serving US naval officer, stationed in Panama, which means that McCain automatically is a natural-born citizen (though retroactively; the laws allowing for this were only passed after he was born). Oddly, there was no question of his eligibility during the 2008 campaign.

Now, when the Birthers produced a birth certificate of their own claiming that Obama had been born in Kenya, it was found to not only be a forgery, but a very unconvincing forgery, due to several instances of shoddy research. For one, it listed his birthplace as "Mombasa, Republic of Kenya", even though a) in 1961, the year of Obama's birth, Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar, not Kenya, and b) Kenya was still a British colony at the time, not a republic. In addition, the format of the certificate bore no resemblance to that used in Kenya at the time. It was shown to be an altered version of a birth certificate issued in South Australia in 1959.


In short, I suggest not listening to the President's detractors. (Demands for his impeachment started even before his inauguration, before he could have even done any Presidential duties that would have warranted it.) Most have no idea what they're talking about.

Hell, most of Bush's detractors have no idea what they're talking about! Amnesty International's demands that he and Dick Cheney be arrested and tried by the ICJ at the Hague are all utterly pointless, given that the ICJ can only hear a case if both parties to the dispute agree to their mediation. No one ever does the research before making such foolish demands and claims.
 

ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Fox News Channel: Veteran Defense Lawyers See Possible Criminal Inquiry for Clintons
Fox News Channel: If Not Hillary, Who? O’Malley in Spotlight as Clinton Fights Media Barrage
Fox News Channel: Union Cancels Boeing Vote, Claiming Gun-Toting Workers Told It to Take Off
Reuters: FEC may allow more foreign money in U.S. vote, critics say

I can still remember feeling my jaw drop over the past two days as this supposed deal sank deeper and deeper into my consciousness, recalling the Muslim Brotherhood’s loss of control thus far, as inexorable as it was apparent for us. This philanthropic foul-up focuses on an investor by the name of Fred Giustra, who asked for help on a deal to purchase stakes in uranium mines controlled by Kazatomprom, a uranium entity operating with Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev’s approval. After that deal, Giustra looked for uranium assets in this country… until his burgeoning company got the attention of the Russians. Ultimately, they’re the ones who now control quite a noticeable chunk of American uranium. Some call it bribery, others presidential tribute, and the elites of the Democratic Party are left scrambling. For its part, the foundation has yet to see any of its members or associates accused of wrongdoing, presumably after everything Alexander Dugin and the International Eurasian Movement have been up to since allying with that intelligence apparatus, including their alarm about a certain warlord from Chechnya. At any rate, a new spotlight has been turned against one former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley, conducting “what may be the most robust water-testing of any Democrat eyeing the not-Hillary vote”. He rolled through Hollywood after stopping by Iowa earlier this month, and while he’s taking care to stress his admiration of Hillary Clinton, he’s constant in his own brand of populism during negotiations involving a free trade agreement spanning the Pacific Ocean. A boost came in the form of an offer of support from Manny Diaz, a (now-former) Clinton backer himself, while the former official favors a $15 federal minimum wage. Perhaps O’Malley and other increasingly nervous high-profile Democrats are awaiting other prospective bits of info in this colossal mess, eyeing reactions from other key elements of their supposed coalition. The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers tried to organize protests at a plant built by Boeing in South Carolina, but slammed “an atmosphere of threats, harassment, and unprecedented political interference” for forcing the cancellation, with a complaint filed at the National Labor Relations Board. Boeing spokesman Doug Alder called the allegations “frivolous” and pointed to employees who didn’t necessarily want to join the union, although some shadier contributions might not help. The Federal Election Commission rejected an investigation into the funding efforts behind a campaign to defeat a ballot initiative in Los Angeles… by a global advertising conglomerate named Manwin International SARL. Now, concerns are emerging of potential campaigns by foreign donors to flood other initiatives to tilt policy one way or the other, but the rest of you won’t have to guess my view. “Fabian Thylmann, a German-born software engineer who became famous for consolidating massive amounts of pornography online and turning a profit”, founded this company before selling his stake in October 2013, and it later renamed itself MindGeek, for everything that’s worth, I guess. Well, whatever said warlord, the Main Intelligence Directorate, and the rest of the Kremlin’s inner circle decide in persuading the Anglosphere to tilt squarely toward them and their intercontinental project, the social events shan’t dull us too much.:

Express Tribune: Looming threat: Nisar warns of attacks on ‘soft targets’
Express Tribune: Impasse persists: No progress in talks with Baloch separatists, says CM
Eurasia Review: International Relations and Security Network Security Watch: Austin Long: Gulf of Secrets: The Evolution of Gulf State Intelligence Services

The warning from Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan has left his fellow government officials impotent while the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate festers wherever it can, in the midst of a military operation that’s been all over that country’s radar lately. He argues that the terrorists in question continue to be on the run, although one’s left to wonder who’s facilitating their movements… while disavowals in favor of Sharia supremacy’s imagery. The Frontier Corps, a special paramilitary unit, organized this ceremony, while other groups within it have their attention trained on an area bordering Iran, now seeing another impasse among others for its demands for autonomy in the face of a different project launched by… Chinese President Xi Jinping at the start of this week. The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor supposedly creates an unfettered trade route directly into (what’s left of) the Middle East and links other communities under its aegis, but already, other individuals within the second country are raising concerns about exclusive profits to the neglect of other communities. Pakistan might continue to stall with the separatists, opening additional room for discontent to get sucked into the Islamic Thirty Years’ War. Who knew? After everything the Quds Force’s own apparatus launched against us, the sheikhdoms of the Arabian Peninsula find it necessary to take matters into their own hands, as exemplified by the United Arab Emirates’ new State Security Department, able to request air support in the form of modernized fighters and gunships. It wants to keep us engaged in the region, such as we can, and continue to tighten the relationship with at least the House of Maktoum, and a demonstration was present when this new group “quickly connected video surveillance to false passports and credits cards ultimately alleged to link the killers to Israel’s intelligence service”, namely assassins of a senior leader in Hamas. Call it an attempt at adapting the concept of special warfare against the depopulation avalanche now unfolding, slowly corroding whatever the Chinese Communist Party had in mind. Once the Indian People’s Party gets the idea that India, hopefully within the Anglosphere, could end up one of the last societies standing, the preparations will need no comment.
 
Bernie Sanders isn't running to become president. He's running to push Hilary farther to the left. Even he knows he can't win, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a role to fill. It's not like you can count on Hilary Clinton to take bold, progessive stances on issues on her own. For example, she didn't say a word about questioning the TPP until Sanders and Warren brought it to the spotlight. Hilary is about as boringly centrist as they come, and in America, centrist is pretty much still conservative now that the tea party has defined "true" conservatism. America needs someone on the far left to truly tackle the inequalities that plague society, in an ideal world I'd choose Sanders over Hilary any day. I hope he gives her a run for her money.
 
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WizardTrubbish

much more beastly
Running to push Hillary to the left is a waste of time. Best case scenario she makes a bunch of promises in the primary she'll never keep, worst case scenario she'll use him as a contrast to herself to make herself look more 'moderate' and 'electable' and use it as an excuse to move further.

Also referring to Bernie Sanders as far left makes a mockery of the term, given Bernie has never advocated the abolition of capitalism.
 
Running to push Hillary to the left is a waste of time. Best case scenario she makes a bunch of promises in the primary she'll never keep, worst case scenario she'll use him as a contrast to herself to make herself look more 'moderate' and 'electable' and use it as an excuse to move further.

Also referring to Bernie Sanders as far left makes a mockery of the term, given Bernie has never advocated the abolition of capitalism.

Socialism is far-left on the political spectrum in general, not just in American politics.
 
Running to push Hillary to the left is a waste of time. Best case scenario she makes a bunch of promises in the primary she'll never keep, worst case scenario she'll use him as a contrast to herself to make herself look more 'moderate' and 'electable' and use it as an excuse to move further.

Also referring to Bernie Sanders as far left makes a mockery of the term, given Bernie has never advocated the abolition of capitalism.

Nonsense. Sure, obviously no president keeps all of their promises, but it's silly to think that she would drop the ball on all of them. There are people in government like Warren and Sanders that would keep her accountable. Just look at the affect Warren alone has had on the already existing president. She got him to retract his corporate nominee for treasury. Don't be so cynical. Like it or not, progressive voices are gaining an enormous amount of clout in this country, it's naive to think Hilary won't try to cater to them under proper pressure.

Bernie out fundraised every single Republican candidate in just 24 hours! Another huge sign that progressive voices are reaching a fever pitch. Before, even mentioning his name as a possible contender would have been laughable. I can't look at that and say Hilary would have had much luck positioning herself next to him as a moderate. People like what he's selling.

From my experience socialists are usually grouped in with anarchists, communists, trotskyists, etc under the banner of "far left" but it doesn't matter. It's a non point, really.
 
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Sure, but Bernie Sanders is not a socialist. He's just a generic American liberal who thinks socialism means supporting any government action.
Except he is a socialist. He has described himself as one publicly on many occasions.
 

WizardTrubbish

much more beastly
Except he is a socialist. He has described himself as one publicly on many occasions.

And when asked what what he means by socialism, he always describes it as the Nordic model ie capitalism with a big welfare state. Him calling himself socialist is just as dumb as tea partiers calling Obama socialist.
 
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