How many years has the US NOT been basing its economy on war, or actively at at war? 0.
Unless people literally revolt and destroy the Military-Industrial Complex, and I mean literally raze it to the ground with fire and weapons, and get rid of all possible genetic heirs to the money and power.
But no one will.
Because forever chasing the strawman that is The Leftest Leftist, the truest Scotsman, is much more important.
Wow, treason and familicide, relax.
First off, no one is pro-abortion. It's called "pro-choice" for a reason.
Second, I do not agree with abortion. I do believe it is murder, and the idea of it bothers me. HOWEVER, I also know since I cannot get pregnant, my opinion on it shouldn't be a deciding factor.
Third, I have spoken to those children. I went to school with foster kids. There were foster kids in my family. I grew up watching them suffer. I grew up watching them die, and as a mere adolescent I could do nothing about it. It is why I advocate for them now. It is clear you have yet to actually speak to these unwanted children. It is clear you haven't checked to see where they end up.
Fourth, with that said, feel free to look up the current and ongoing issues with Texas' foster care system. Then feel free to look up the current issues of foster care within your own state.
Fifth, the Pro-Life party is filled with people who'll never have to deal with consequences of pregnancy and abortion, in particular, men who cannot have children. This is the biggest irony to the movement. You want to make decisions on something that doesn't even affect you. It's no different from straight people trying to ban same-sex marriage. It's easy to ban something when you don't have to bare the consequences of that ban. Is there ever a question as to why men who are Pro-Life have yet to ban vasectomies? That prevents the creation of life entirely.
Sixth, and finally, if you truly do care for these children, help them after they're born:
- Improve the foster care system
- Improve the education system
- Promote better access to child healthcare
- Make it easier same-sex couples to adopt
- Combat child sex trafficking
- Combat school bullying
- Promote access to mental health services for children
There are millions of children already here that need your help. If you truly are Pro-Life, actually support their lives.
Rep. Frederica Wilson said it best: "You only care about a fetus until the moment it is born."
Could've swore I responded to this.
"No one is pro-abortion. It's called "pro-choice" for a reason."
If someone is for the legal right to abortion, then they're pro-abortion, just like someone who is pro-gay marriage is for gay marriage. I don't know what kind of semantics you're trying to play at here, but your logic is off.
"I do not agree with abortion. I do believe it is murder."
If I may be so pedantic, abortion is not murder. Since abortion is legal, it's "just" killing. Murder is a crime, and abortion is not a crime, therefore it's not murder. Not all purposeful destruction of human life is murder, there's instances in which it's legal. Whether or not it should be is what's up for debate. People don't value early stage human life or criminal life, so we allow the killing of the unborn and certain criminals (I don't think we should kill either of them, for the record).
"I cannot get pregnant, my opinion on it shouldn't be a deciding factor."
Anyway, whether or not you can get pregnant means nothing. Some women can't get pregnant, you would chase them from this debate? We live in a civil society where we all have equal say regardless of our biological differences. You may as well tell a woman she can't have a say on male's circumcision practices. That's a barbaric, outdated, unAmerican way of thinking, and is more importantly, illogical.
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I have spoken to those children."
It's great you've spoken to these unwanted children, it's just too bad you don't defend their right to life. What's your point anyway? I have family and friends who were unwanted, and adopted out. I'm glad they were not killed, and so are they, as are most people. Even the worst foster care is better than a needless, violent demise. You're painting the foster care system as a fate worse than death, by your logic you seem to be implying that turning orphanages into slaughterhouses could be interpreted as an act of mercy. I think most of these people are glad to be alive, or will be some day; and if not, if even only one of them is, then thank God they may live the life given to them.
"The Pro-Life party is filled with people who'll never have to deal with consequences of pregnancy and abortion, in particular, men who cannot have children."
The consequences of pregnancy? You mean the consequences which are highly avoidable outside of sexual assault cases, which comprise ~1% of abortions? Actions do tend to have consequences, yes. And men can have children, they may not birth them but they
do have them.
"You want to make decisions on something that doesn't even affect you."
Yeah, of course. So do you. As do we all. The slavery of black people didn't affect white people, and yet white people wanted to end something which did not affect them. If anything in some cases it benefitted them, and yet did the right thing by making decisions on something that didn't even affect them. Your logic is poor, and your sense of morality displaced.
"It's no different from straight people trying to ban same-sex marriage."
Marriage had a specific definition, meaning, history, and cultural significance. Nobody was against same-sex unions in America, only against infringing upon the institution of marriage. Arguably, however, the government shouldn't even be involved with marriage to begin with. That'd be sort of like them enforcing male-only pastors just because it's Biblically/culturally accurate/traditional, it's not their place.
"Is there ever a question as to why men who are Pro-Life have yet to ban vasectomies?"
I think you mean enforce vasectomies, not ban them. But enforcing vasectomies is ridiculous, and a total false equivalence. For one thing, it's a preventative measure and we already have an abundance of cheap/free, widely available non-surgical options for prevention which can (but aren't, obviously) utilized by both men and women, and the much dreaded but 99% effective method of abstinence is always there. Also, vasectomies are not always reversible. It's a frankly stupid point and I can't believe this isn't the first time I've heard it, do you actually think it's a good talking point? That's sad, because it objectively isn't.
"If you truly do care for these children, help them
after they're born."
Kinda hard to do that when they're killed. If you truly do care for these children, help them
be born. If you believe abortion is "murder" then you shouldn't support murder regardless of if you feel you shouldn't have a say in the matter, because when it comes to killing people, we all should have a say.
And forget children for a moment, there's full grown adults who need to be considered too. Would you tell survivors of attempted abortions that they shouldn't be alive? That the abortion should've been a success, they don't belong here because of their mother's choice? Children, especially unborn ones, can't defend themselves.
But adults can. Tell her she should be dead: