The Admiral
the star of the masquerade
Guaranteed basic income?
Oh right, that's socialist bullcrap. I learned about that from my public library.
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U.S. Politics: The Biggest Trade in WNBA History
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Guaranteed basic income?
Oh right, that's socialist bullcrap. I learned about that from my public library.
Here's another thing you can learn in the public library: President Obama is not a socialist.
Here's the skinny (and btw, I did copy and paste this):
Actual Socialists actually get upset when they are compared to Mr. Obama's policies, because they know he does not represent their ideas. Nor were FDR nor LBJ. Modern liberals are frequently Keynesians (i. e. they support some degree of government intervention in the economy, especially during times of recession) but liberalism is still a fundamentally individualist ideology, and American liberals are broadly supportive of capitalism and favor its continuation; it cannot possibly be emphasized enough that the Keynesian economic theory is not, by its very nature socialist or for that matter social democrat, though in the eyes of its critics (i.e neo-classical and neo-liberal economists) this would count as "socialism by association" (insomuch as "all controversial economic policies must be socialism") since it does represent a sharp enough departure from classical economics, and the foundations of liberal theory (i.e "positive liberty" as opposed to "negative liberty" in Isaiah Berlin's phrase). During Roosevelt's administration, liberalism led to the New Deal; the development of many state corporations (such as the T.V.A.), heavy government investment so as to limit and halt unemployment, building of infrastructure and public works and providing social security for the elderly. Johnson who saw FDR as an inspiration, led the War on Poverty and other relief measures, as well as enacted progressive policies such as the Civil Rights Act, while Obama introduced and instituted Health Care, something proposed by FDR himself in his last televised speech (and later Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton), albeit instituted by Obama in a more pragmatic fashion, covering a smaller bracket than similar policies in other developed nations and modeled, ironically enough, on programs put in place by the Republican Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney.
As I have said many times before, the sole reason Obama's policies are disliked and classified with "the S word") is because of personal dislike because he is a black man and guys who support Trump simply hate paying taxes. That's all. These people are greedy and selfish enough to let the poor starve, condemn a philanthropist like Ms. Clinton, and call her charity a sham. They think they won't have to share if a plutocrat like Trump is President.
But they're in for a surprise.
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The Admiral
the star of the masquerade
I feel like you're missing the joke -- the joke being that one could technically argue for public libraries being a (low-grade) level of socialist service.
I mean, the real joke is that it's based off of something Glenn Beck once said where he was whining about the evils of socialism but also telling us how he learned that stuff at his local public library. I am well aware that American liberalism is by-and-large capitalistic. This is part of why programs like single-payer don't even gain great traction among them, while the ACA (good for what it is though it be) has them patting themselves on the back for it.
I mean, clearly it's an ego and/or race (probably the latter but the former is never completely gone either now is it) thing, weren't the basics of the ACA taken from Romney, a Republican?
I mean, the real joke is that it's based off of something Glenn Beck once said where he was whining about the evils of socialism but also telling us how he learned that stuff at his local public library. I am well aware that American liberalism is by-and-large capitalistic. This is part of why programs like single-payer don't even gain great traction among them, while the ACA (good for what it is though it be) has them patting themselves on the back for it.
I mean, clearly it's an ego and/or race (probably the latter but the former is never completely gone either now is it) thing, weren't the basics of the ACA taken from Romney, a Republican?
More like copied word for word. My respect of Romney has declined steadily since he first ran for President, and as of a month ago, reached that of pond scum.
Trump pick exxonmobi CEO Rex tillerson as Secretary of State,
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...o-be-secretary-of-state/ar-AAlucb7?li=BBnb7Kz
Yup mr "drain the swamp" just put the biggest swamp in the highest spot in his staff.
Even better he also pick rick "opps" perry as head of department of energy aka that thing that rick perry want to get rid off.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...o-be-secretary-of-state/ar-AAlucb7?li=BBnb7Kz
Yup mr "drain the swamp" just put the biggest swamp in the highest spot in his staff.
Even better he also pick rick "opps" perry as head of department of energy aka that thing that rick perry want to get rid off.
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pokemonjeff
interested trader
I think the problem is that the left side already knows trump is corrupt and incompetent, and the right side just thinks its the 'liberal media putting a spin on things' and thus ignores it.
Trainer Yusuf
VolcaniNO
Well, how else is Russia is going to redraw the map of Middle East and Indo-Iranian area and annex Eastern Europe?
Also don't worry, soon most of the traditional powers of Europe like UK, France and Spain will break up into smaller countries who will need Russian anti-aircraft missiles and Russian uranium to back their independence.
Because it is his party doing that?
I mean, you need to have a party propaganda somehow for your electorate.
pokemonjeff
interested trader
If nothing else the gop has a superhuman level of irony tolerance.
As much I want this sadly there more busying running with the fake Russia hacker that doesn't exists then pointing trump conflict it of interest.
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Well, that's not gonna stop us from getting killed.
pokemonjeff
interested trader
True story. How trumps comments on nukes and nuclear codes didn't dissuade everyone from voting for him is astounding. I don't know anyone on either side of the political spectrum who wants nukes fired because everyone knows thats game over, but lets get the only guy who doesn't understand that and give him the nuclear codes.
Then again these are the same people claiming they don't want to go to war but are putting a man picking wars with every major power on the planet in charge. Literally painful. Fingers crossed the electoral college does the right thing.
We all know that's not going to happen.
Yeah, I'm sure a lot of folks said that before the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The Admiral
the star of the masquerade
pretty sure the "russia influencing the election" thing is legit; it's just deeply uncomfortable
also, i'm pretty sure the problem is they haven't done anything about trump's conflicts of interest. we know they're there and they've been decently publicized if you get your news off something more credible than Fox.
there's also this whole concept of multitasking, but i guess the dems can't even do one thing at a time, really
diakyu
Well-Known Member
US Officials are now saying Putin was personally involved in the hacks. 2016 must be like the best year ever for Russia. First brexit now this? What a time to be alive. Real talk though, this is ridiculous and really isn't even a case of Trump vs Hilary, we're folding to Putin's whim under his influence and most are just "this is fine". But like, emails amirite? Buch of sore losers those democrats, they don't trust in our comrade Russia.
It's more of an undisputed fact at this point comrade, and if it bears some sort of direct connection between Trump and Putin (unlikely still imo but we're getting pretty deep in now) it would be the biggest scandal of most of our lifetimes.
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pokemonjeff
interested trader
But emails man emails!
What really blows my mind, is republicans from 30-40 years ago would have sooner killed themselves than go with russias wishes. Now russia is openly doing what they please and the republicans are like OK NO PROBLEMO WHATEVER YOU WANT MR.PUTAN. Where are the republicans that would rather go to war than get in bed with russia, lol.
Big Deal.
What blows MY mind is that anyone, Republican or otherwise, would ever trust Putin.
Ever take a gander at the P. Riot hate sites? Their attempt to demonize those poor women are lamer than the lies told about Hillary. (I mean come on, if the accusations of assault and battery and vandalism were true, there'd have been far more charges than "hooliganism", I'll tell you that much.)
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pokemonjeff
interested trader
Lol, the extremely obvious and very heavy handed sarcasm doesn't need that much aggression. They are old lady emails, and obviously the 50 or so investigations into them showed they had nothing of real interest in them. It really didn't matter at all and that was kind of the point of that joke. Emails man, emails.
And well yea, its completely ludicrous that anyone is. And you don't need to look at any of those sites to know how heavily they slander anyone against them, usually with unfounded and often absurd lies.
Also in other news, apparently bombing started back up in aleppo today.