I want to start getting into battling with my pokemon, I've spent almost all my time breeding pokemon so I figure that I should actually do something with them. My initial intention on coming here was to receive help in the creation of teams, only rating something on showcase seems sycophantic to me, but whatever. So here is a team I was thinking about with Rain Dance. タイプの中で水が一番好きだので「あまごい」を使いたかったよ～
Drizzle + Swift Swim is banned, but that's totally OK. It just means that I can't use Kingdra along with Politoed, and that's not too bad.
とにかく！
;186; @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
IV: 21/31/31/31/10/31
EV: 252 HP, 252 SpAtk, 4 Spe
Nature: Modest (+SpAtk, - Atk)
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Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Focus Blast
Surf
This pokemon acts as easy set up for Rain Dance, while being able to simultaneously answer other openers like Ferrothorn, Infernape, Scizor, T-Tar and the likes. Ferrothorn will more than likely kill Politoed though... The STAB power from Drizzle also allows for easy check against common answers by using Hydro Pump.
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Salamence: 68.3% - 80.7%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Naive Salamence: 75.8% - 89.4%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Haxorus: 95.6% - 112.6%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Hydreigon: 63.1% - 74.5%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Rotom-W: 73.14% - 86.36%
Hydro Pump vs. 252/252+ Deoxys-D: 63.5% - 75%
Personally I have issues with using Hydro Pump and Surf in the same team, only providing more PP to STAB with, which isn't that bad I think but it still feels like a waste of an attack slot. I guess to start with I'd be mostly afraid of a DW Ninetails, a T-Tar coming in after I've fired off an Ice Beam or an Abomasnow... Also, my Politoed's Special Defense IV is a little on the low side, so I'm not particually safe with the idea of Solar Beams and Thunders being able to destroy my poor froggy. I'm also a little uncomfortable with Choice Specs as well, but I can't think anything better to use off the top of my head.
;149; @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
IV: 26/31/30/3/31/31
EV: 252 Atk, 4 SpDef, 252 Spe
Nature: Jolly (+Spe, -SpAtk)
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Dragon Dance
Extreme Speed
Waterfall
Dragon Claw
First off, I'm using Dragon Claw over Outrage because I don't like the idea of not being able to control my pokemon if I need a new move if my enemy switches. Multiscale makes sure that I am able to set up a Dragon Dance and begin sweeping with Rain + Waterfall. Even if an enemy moves faster than Dragonite for one move after a Dragon Dance, I'll hit with either Waterfall or STAB Dragon Claw and then move over priority with Extreme Speed. I decided to use this set over the more obvious choice of going with Special Attack and using Thunder and Hurricane because I feel this set allows Dragonite to not suddenly become unstable in case my Rain Dance is canceled out with other weather and Politoed happens to be KOed. However, the use of Rain Dance made me choose to use Waterfall over Fire Punch since fire power is weakened, this leaves Dragonite open to the terror of Genesect. I assume a switch in after Dragonite has set up Dragon Dance and has more than likely taken a hit, so an incoming Ice Beam would OHKO my poor Dragon while Dragonite isn't able to do much in retaliation. This makes me feel a little iffy about using it, since there seems to be an influx in Genesect users after ENG release of BW2.
:635: @ Expert Belt
Ability: Levitate
IV: 20/18/12/31/31/31
EV: 252 SpAtk, 4 SpDef, 252 Spe
Nature: Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
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Focus Blast
Draco Meteor
Fire Blast
Dark Pulse
This is the most iffy member of the team I think. It shares weakness with Dragonite and only offers SpAtk STAB with Dragon and Dark while being able to Fire Blast. Again, I choose to use Fire Blast because I see being used in case the Rain goes away, optimally using the Sun against my enemy if they attempt to weather battle. I'd also use it to STAB against specific pokemon: Ferrothorn, Scizor and the likes where I can 4x + Expert Belt against them. This also means that using this pokemon is going to be rather uncommon. That and the low IV in Def makes Close Combat scary...
;302; @ Leftovers?
Ability: Prankster
IV: 31/8/31/30/31/8
EV: 252 HP, 120 Def, 136 SpDef
Nature: Careful (+SpDef, -SpAtk)
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Taunt
Will-o-Wisp
Night Shade
Recover
Taunt is an important move in my opinion, so I think it is best used by a Sableye. (それとポケモンの中でヤミラミが一番好き) Also Sableye is capable of locking pokemon that are incapable of just destroying it from the get go. WoW is also very powerful, burning the enemy before they can kill of Sableye is very effective. That and Sableye will only only show up as a revenge Troller. Night Shade allows for consistant pokes that bypass over the use any actual stat that Sableye might have, so I decided that it's Atk and SpAtk stats were useless. That and Sableye is just fun to play with <3
;134; @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
IV: 31/30/31/30/31/31
EV: 248 HP, 252 Def, 8 Spe
Nature: Bold (+Spe, -Atk)
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Scald
Wish
Rest
Hidden Power
While raining, I think that Vaporeon is almost immortal. It is also capable of tossing Wish either to revive Politoed or reset Dragonite. Burning though with scald has chance to burn pokemon that Sableye might not have had the chance to play against. While Hidden Power-Grass destroys heavy water types and annihilates Gastrodon, Quagsire and Swampert. I think that improvement wise, wishing could be done with for Ice Beam and Scald could be Hydro Pump if Leftovers becomes Water Gem. Vaporeon stat-wise is almost perfect, however the need to sacrifice 1 point for hidden power doesn't seem too bad a compramise (this thing took 3 days of breeding to create)
:637: @ Life Orb
Ability: Flame Body
IV: 31/31/12/31/31/22
EV: 252 SpAtk, 4 SpDef, 252 Spe
Nature: Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
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Quiver Dance
Hurricane
Fiery Dance
Bug Buzz
More buring... set up with Quiver Dance and more to Hurricane which gets 100% accuracy in rain, while Bug Buzz and Fiery Dance hit STAB + Life Orb. Stealth Rocks and Stone Edge destroy my little buggy, but this one exists in team much like Hydreigon does in that it is to answer certain threats. Also, if a weather war happens I can abuse a sunny day. I think this pokemon could go with being rebreed, and giving it a V in speed to make it move a little faster to avoid being hit with Stone Edge a little better.
All in all this team seems only OK to me. I call this Rain Dance, but that move actually doesn't exist within my team. Instead I focus on being able to gain from having Rain Dance's effect while not being dependent upon always having it and being able to combat other weather effects by anticipating them. Sandstorm is more than likely going to use a T-Tar, which died in OHKO from Focus Blast from Hydreigon; Hail comes from Abomasnow and to my benefit makes Fire type no longer become weakened by rain and 4x super effect from Fire Blast on Hydreigon + Expert Belt or Fiery Dance from Volcarona + Life Orb; Sunny day actually benefits my team by boosting Volcarona and Hydreigon and allowing me to STAB against Ninetails and the likes with Dragonite who can be kept "immortal" with Ninetales until I can reestablish rain. I thought about using a Hidden Power-Fire Golduck to negate my own rain to hit against Ferrothorn, but that seems like a little much since I can just hit through rain with fire and still do damage in that my fire attackers are resistant to steel/grass STAB moves. Gastrodon dies to Vaporeon without, while most all other 'walls' are being bombarded by Hydro Pumps while Burns take effect. All while the little Troll Sableye is going to attempt to lock out a pokemon if it can. Also I thought about using a Steel type pokemon who could gain from the weakening of fire while being able to predict a possible sandstorm.
I'd like some advice to possibly better abuse the Rain and possible substitutes to convert this team to a balanced team in OU; removing Politoed and Vaporeon and changing a few moves. Please help and thank you very much ^^
本当にありがとう～
Drizzle + Swift Swim is banned, but that's totally OK. It just means that I can't use Kingdra along with Politoed, and that's not too bad.
とにかく！
;186; @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
IV: 21/31/31/31/10/31
EV: 252 HP, 252 SpAtk, 4 Spe
Nature: Modest (+SpAtk, - Atk)
-
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Focus Blast
Surf
This pokemon acts as easy set up for Rain Dance, while being able to simultaneously answer other openers like Ferrothorn, Infernape, Scizor, T-Tar and the likes. Ferrothorn will more than likely kill Politoed though... The STAB power from Drizzle also allows for easy check against common answers by using Hydro Pump.
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Salamence: 68.3% - 80.7%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Naive Salamence: 75.8% - 89.4%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Haxorus: 95.6% - 112.6%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Hydreigon: 63.1% - 74.5%
Hydro Pump vs. 0/0 Rotom-W: 73.14% - 86.36%
Hydro Pump vs. 252/252+ Deoxys-D: 63.5% - 75%
Personally I have issues with using Hydro Pump and Surf in the same team, only providing more PP to STAB with, which isn't that bad I think but it still feels like a waste of an attack slot. I guess to start with I'd be mostly afraid of a DW Ninetails, a T-Tar coming in after I've fired off an Ice Beam or an Abomasnow... Also, my Politoed's Special Defense IV is a little on the low side, so I'm not particually safe with the idea of Solar Beams and Thunders being able to destroy my poor froggy. I'm also a little uncomfortable with Choice Specs as well, but I can't think anything better to use off the top of my head.
;149; @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
IV: 26/31/30/3/31/31
EV: 252 Atk, 4 SpDef, 252 Spe
Nature: Jolly (+Spe, -SpAtk)
-
Dragon Dance
Extreme Speed
Waterfall
Dragon Claw
First off, I'm using Dragon Claw over Outrage because I don't like the idea of not being able to control my pokemon if I need a new move if my enemy switches. Multiscale makes sure that I am able to set up a Dragon Dance and begin sweeping with Rain + Waterfall. Even if an enemy moves faster than Dragonite for one move after a Dragon Dance, I'll hit with either Waterfall or STAB Dragon Claw and then move over priority with Extreme Speed. I decided to use this set over the more obvious choice of going with Special Attack and using Thunder and Hurricane because I feel this set allows Dragonite to not suddenly become unstable in case my Rain Dance is canceled out with other weather and Politoed happens to be KOed. However, the use of Rain Dance made me choose to use Waterfall over Fire Punch since fire power is weakened, this leaves Dragonite open to the terror of Genesect. I assume a switch in after Dragonite has set up Dragon Dance and has more than likely taken a hit, so an incoming Ice Beam would OHKO my poor Dragon while Dragonite isn't able to do much in retaliation. This makes me feel a little iffy about using it, since there seems to be an influx in Genesect users after ENG release of BW2.
:635: @ Expert Belt
Ability: Levitate
IV: 20/18/12/31/31/31
EV: 252 SpAtk, 4 SpDef, 252 Spe
Nature: Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
-
Focus Blast
Draco Meteor
Fire Blast
Dark Pulse
This is the most iffy member of the team I think. It shares weakness with Dragonite and only offers SpAtk STAB with Dragon and Dark while being able to Fire Blast. Again, I choose to use Fire Blast because I see being used in case the Rain goes away, optimally using the Sun against my enemy if they attempt to weather battle. I'd also use it to STAB against specific pokemon: Ferrothorn, Scizor and the likes where I can 4x + Expert Belt against them. This also means that using this pokemon is going to be rather uncommon. That and the low IV in Def makes Close Combat scary...
;302; @ Leftovers?
Ability: Prankster
IV: 31/8/31/30/31/8
EV: 252 HP, 120 Def, 136 SpDef
Nature: Careful (+SpDef, -SpAtk)
-
Taunt
Will-o-Wisp
Night Shade
Recover
Taunt is an important move in my opinion, so I think it is best used by a Sableye. (それとポケモンの中でヤミラミが一番好き) Also Sableye is capable of locking pokemon that are incapable of just destroying it from the get go. WoW is also very powerful, burning the enemy before they can kill of Sableye is very effective. That and Sableye will only only show up as a revenge Troller. Night Shade allows for consistant pokes that bypass over the use any actual stat that Sableye might have, so I decided that it's Atk and SpAtk stats were useless. That and Sableye is just fun to play with <3
;134; @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
IV: 31/30/31/30/31/31
EV: 248 HP, 252 Def, 8 Spe
Nature: Bold (+Spe, -Atk)
-
Scald
Wish
Rest
Hidden Power
While raining, I think that Vaporeon is almost immortal. It is also capable of tossing Wish either to revive Politoed or reset Dragonite. Burning though with scald has chance to burn pokemon that Sableye might not have had the chance to play against. While Hidden Power-Grass destroys heavy water types and annihilates Gastrodon, Quagsire and Swampert. I think that improvement wise, wishing could be done with for Ice Beam and Scald could be Hydro Pump if Leftovers becomes Water Gem. Vaporeon stat-wise is almost perfect, however the need to sacrifice 1 point for hidden power doesn't seem too bad a compramise (this thing took 3 days of breeding to create)
:637: @ Life Orb
Ability: Flame Body
IV: 31/31/12/31/31/22
EV: 252 SpAtk, 4 SpDef, 252 Spe
Nature: Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
-
Quiver Dance
Hurricane
Fiery Dance
Bug Buzz
More buring... set up with Quiver Dance and more to Hurricane which gets 100% accuracy in rain, while Bug Buzz and Fiery Dance hit STAB + Life Orb. Stealth Rocks and Stone Edge destroy my little buggy, but this one exists in team much like Hydreigon does in that it is to answer certain threats. Also, if a weather war happens I can abuse a sunny day. I think this pokemon could go with being rebreed, and giving it a V in speed to make it move a little faster to avoid being hit with Stone Edge a little better.
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All in all this team seems only OK to me. I call this Rain Dance, but that move actually doesn't exist within my team. Instead I focus on being able to gain from having Rain Dance's effect while not being dependent upon always having it and being able to combat other weather effects by anticipating them. Sandstorm is more than likely going to use a T-Tar, which died in OHKO from Focus Blast from Hydreigon; Hail comes from Abomasnow and to my benefit makes Fire type no longer become weakened by rain and 4x super effect from Fire Blast on Hydreigon + Expert Belt or Fiery Dance from Volcarona + Life Orb; Sunny day actually benefits my team by boosting Volcarona and Hydreigon and allowing me to STAB against Ninetails and the likes with Dragonite who can be kept "immortal" with Ninetales until I can reestablish rain. I thought about using a Hidden Power-Fire Golduck to negate my own rain to hit against Ferrothorn, but that seems like a little much since I can just hit through rain with fire and still do damage in that my fire attackers are resistant to steel/grass STAB moves. Gastrodon dies to Vaporeon without, while most all other 'walls' are being bombarded by Hydro Pumps while Burns take effect. All while the little Troll Sableye is going to attempt to lock out a pokemon if it can. Also I thought about using a Steel type pokemon who could gain from the weakening of fire while being able to predict a possible sandstorm.
I'd like some advice to possibly better abuse the Rain and possible substitutes to convert this team to a balanced team in OU; removing Politoed and Vaporeon and changing a few moves. Please help and thank you very much ^^
本当にありがとう～
