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Under Used,Over Used,Under Rated,Over Rated.

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~Phanpy~

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hmm, another UU UR poke i have thought of is...Magmar! It isn't used much coz its fire, but it has decent attack and special attack, so it'd be a good mixed sweeper.

~Phanpy~ ;231;
 

Kveran

Pinin' for the fjord
Kangaskhan is an excellent UU, in my opinion. Great HP, Speed, and Attack, and yet no one uses it .

"I'm Nobody! Who are you?" -Emily Dickinson

Currently training up a Kangaskhan for use on my Frontier team... bit of a jack of all trades, master of none, and it's been suggested that I use Salamence or Swampert or some other heavy Physical hitter over Kangaskhan, but the Kanga has got a ton of variety. Got a bit ripped with Early Bird (would have loved Intimidate or Rock Head) but hey.

Tentacruel is MAJORLY Underrated. It's UU for a reason, but its extremely hard to counter. Excellent, and I mean excellent Sp. Defense, great Speed, and usable Sp. Attack. People just don't use them because of their experiences with the little buggers in the RPGs, which is stupid, IMO.

Yes, I noticed that. I'm doing a mono team on Ruby right now and I realized that a) I've never used a Tentacruel and b) nobody else really does either. Useful movepool they've got, can deviate from the standard water Surf/Ice Beam combination.

Another one I find to be OverUsed,is Milotic.Why do so many people love this weird water snake pokemon?I know it has amazing stats and all that stuff,but what really is it people see in it? Maybe because feebas is so hard to get,they think milotic is amazing!!
And it is anything but beautiful!!

Really? I think it's gorgeous from the back. Great stats, can take a STABbed Thunder (at least ingame), not the best movepool but what it can do, it does well. Someone else put it well saying that Milotic is the special-typed, able-to-STAB-decently Gyarados. I'm a big Milotic fan.

How about Ursaring? I've never seen anyone use it.

I thought about it, but my general opinion is that Kangaskhan does it better.

If I had to pick an underused off the top of my head I would actually say Houndoom... granted I don't play competitively, however from what I've seen Houndoom is sort of laughed at. I tend to work off of a basic special-based set with Toxic and Roar and it works fine. I'd say the biggest obstacle for Houndoom is the fact that there are more Pokemon of the Water type than of any other type period... oh, and bloody Earthquake isn't fun. Houndoom kind of ends up sitting on the sidelines for most battles until something susceptible to it comes in, which only really works if you've got a multitasker who can eat everything else for breakfast to cover Houndoom's bases. It's the same thing that happens to any specialist- Fire, Electric, whatever. Underused for a reason... eh, what the hell, I like it.

Another one that's underused as far as I've seen: Scizor. Played with one of these in the Factory the other day. Even without Swarm and a Liechi berry activated, plus a Swords Dance or two, it's funny to see how many things fall to a lowly Silver Wind. Obviously it's got its share of weaknesses, but it could have a worse double weakness than Fire and with the Steel dual type it can KO any Rock types that threaten it with Earthquake. Never used it outside of the Factory; can anyone give me some more info on this guy?

I've also never seen anyone use a Poliwrath before. Another one that I'm using on the mono team. Sure, I can think of things that Focus Punch better (Breloom comes immediately to mind) but Poliwrath seems sturdy enough. Except what the hell is up with Damp?

hmm, another UU UR poke i have thought of is...Magmar! It isn't used much coz its fire, but it has decent attack and special attack, so it'd be a good mixed sweeper.

I don't know Magmar that well, but as a generalization, the movepool on Fire types isn't that hot. (Pun unintended.) Sweeping abilities are rather cramped if you can't get in a variety of moves.

Comment on Dragonite: I see Dragonite from both perspectives. Yes, give it a set and I'll find you something that does the same thing only better. But I love the variety that you've got with Dragonite and it's a fun Pokemon to play around with.
 
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Kveran said:
I don't know Magmar that well, but as a generalization, the movepool on Fire types isn't that hot. (Pun unintended.) Sweeping abilities are rather cramped if you can't get in a variety of moves.
Magmar bestows probably the best non-00ber Movepool of all Fire Pokémon... Thunder Punch, Psychic, Cross Chop, Confuse Ray... not much, but definitely much more than most Fire Pokémon. :eek:
 

skiboydoggy

Ski > You
Dragons seem to be uber at first, but just dip when you look at them closely. The fact that they have next to no STAB usage just makes people cry.
Dragon Claw and Aerial Ace only never seemed to appeal much to me, not to mention the fact that they are rarely team players.
Then again, with those stats...

ANYWAY... One Pokemon that is horrendously overused but slightly underrated is Blissey.
Most use it as a tank, but they fail to realise that it has above average Sp. Attack scores.
75 base... That's friggin higher than Umbreon.
 
skiboydoggy said:
ANYWAY... One Pokemon that is horrendously overused but slightly underrated is Blissey.
Most use it as a tank, but they fail to realise that it has above average Sp. Attack scores.
75 base... That's friggin higher than Umbreon.
Why do you think we gave it Ice Beam? It has decent enough Special Attack to use it and the Defenses/HP(definitely HP ._.) to stay around to use it(Bold+252 Defense=twice the Defensive power of an untrained Blissey. You'd be surprised how much it can withstand with that much Defense). Not to mention Ice gets 2x damage on 4 Types, sometimes 4x if it catches Sala on the switch. This is why we all love Blissey ;D.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
 

pikadon92

Raiden Maximus
The really Underused pokemons are the unevolved ones (charmander, chickorita, nidoran...........)
 
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MultipleShinys

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here are 2 obviuse uu pokemon....celebii....jirachi
 

skiboydoggy

Ski > You
Celebi is useless compared to Jirachi and Mew, therefore it is useless.
Mew owns Jirachi therefore it is underused.
Mewtwo owns Mew, therefore... Mewtwo is uber.
 

General Blaze

Not the face!
I just remembered that one UU pokemon is Magneton. If used correctly, It can be a great addition to any team.
 

pikapete

Gyarados Hunter
Ursaring shouldn't be UU, it has Swords Dance, and Guts, and STAB on facade/return, so if it gets Poisoned you're laughing at everything (unless its a ghost), especially if you Baton Pass it a bit of speed. One that I find really UR is Torkoal, even though it can survive anything with amnesia and a ridiculously high defence.
 

Clyde the master

Aloha, Lungfish!
An under used? I would say.... Miltank, Politoad, pokemon with poor natures, togitec, and Granbull( physical sweeper, nice attack okay defence, kinda lowly sp. attack and so. defence.) Overused would be: Screptile, Crobat, Steelix, any uber, any shiny, the dogs, tyranitar, Lati_ , and the regis.
 

Komedic Konservationist

N00b in the dungeon!
Clyde the master said:
An under used? I would say.... Miltank, Politoad, pokemon with poor natures, togitec, and Granbull( physical sweeper, nice attack okay defence, kinda lowly sp. attack and so. defence.) Overused would be: Screptile, Crobat, Steelix, any uber, any shiny, the dogs, tyranitar, Lati_ , and the regis.

Miltank is by no means UU, it's the best Blissey substitute available. Politoed, Granbull, and Togetic, I agree: those guys ARE UU, which is a pity cos I love them to death.
Shiny Pokemon being overused is loltastic. Shiny Pokemon are harder to find than a Chimecho during the Great Chimecho Plauge, and besides, there colour dosn't effect there usefulness in competetive battling.
 

.::Escalator::.

"GO TEAM BOOBIES!"
Miltank is BL
Steelix is BL
Celebi is OU
Magneton is OU
Donphan is on the low arnking OU last I heard

skiboydoggy said:
Celebi is useless compared to Jirachi and Mew, therefore it is useless.
Mew owns Jirachi therefore it is underused.
Mewtwo owns Mew, therefore... Mewtwo is uber.

A pokemon sucking against another means nothing. Magneton pwns Skarmory, but Skarm's still OU. Deoxys-E is a disgrace to Deoxys-L,F & RS, but it's still uber.

*Orion* said:
Magmar bestows probably the best non-00ber Movepool of all Fire Pokémon... Thunder Punch, Psychic, Cross Chop, Confuse Ray... not much, but definitely much more than most Fire Pokémon.

Octillery is crying in the corner.
 

Guy

I don't know!
Poor Shuckle is too underused. ;213;. I mean, i use one on NetBattle, and it beats absolutely everything! And boy, do people fear me because of it...
 
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Obiwan Shinobi

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.::Escalator::. said:
Miltank is BL
Steelix is BL
Celebi is OU
Magneton is OU
Donphan is on the low arnking OU last I heard



A pokemon sucking against another means nothing. Magneton pwns Skarmory, but Skarm's still OU. Deoxys-E is a disgrace to Deoxys-L,F & RS, but it's still uber.



Octillery is crying in the corner.

Deoxys-E is unbanne from RuSa Smogon tournaments iirc :/
 
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Fireboy

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magmar is kinda UU and so is electabuzz scyther buterfree (buterfree is not used at all after like rock tunnel)
 
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Dragon tamer

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i have really dug this thread out of a really big hole but i have to say an underused pokemon is riachu simply because if anyone has a pikachu they keep it.
 
I'd say Breloom is UR!! This is cos if it is trained right, It can be the biggest pain in the Arse ever!! (Spore-Punching, and It can be Very Quick too!!)

Salamence is incredibly OU!!
So is Skam...
Blissey too... (but these are good pokemon, so that is expected!!)
Deoxys D, Is the Best annoyer/Wall ever, but no-one uses it!! I do!! (UU)
Medicham is UU!! This pokemon is an absolute Power house!! 2 words... Pure Power!!
Rayquazza is OR Hugely!! If sed Rayquazza doesnt have arial ace, It can be taken out by a Sub-Punching Machamp easily!! And cos everyone has Ice moves... It doesnt survive on that front either!!

regice god said:
i have to say an underused pokemon is riachu simply because if anyone has a pikachu they keep it.
Also with the introduction of the Light Ball, Riachu has been made obselite!!
 
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Mariob

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I think some of the most overused Pokemon are the three starters. It's tough not to use them at first because they are the only ones you really have access to. However as the game progresses most people, myself included, continue to use them. I think in only one case have I not used my original starter.
 
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Kyptointe Krunch

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Overused:: Ratatta,pidget,grimer,koffing,caterpie,machop,geodude(may others)
underused::magmar,jynk,eletabuzz,kangashan,mr.mime,porygon,lickitung,taris,tangela(many others)
 
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