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unfairness for Torchic/Combusken/Blaziken

Volteon

Volteon

Back I guess??
Easy, normal, hard modes?

Easy = Mudkip

1st = Rock = offensive advantage
2nd = Fighting = Neutral both (offensive and defensive)
3nd = Electric = Offensive advantage and defensive advantage (While ground)
4th = Fire = Offensive and Defensive advantage
5th = Normal = Neutral both
6th = Flying = A little disvantage, but most water Pokémon has Ice beam so...
7th = Psychic = Offensive advantage (Solrock, Lunatone and Claydol has Water Weakness and Xatu can get Ice beamed)
8th = Water = Offensive sorta disvantage, Neutral defensive.

E4
Dark = Offensive advantage (Most Pokémon has Ice weakness or low defense)
Ghost = Disvantage (W-o-W causes problems and they mostly have bigh S.def.)
Ice = Neutral both, but Defense has a little disvantage
Dragon = Offensive vantage (plus Sandstorm imunity)
Steel = Offensive advantage // Water = Depends on oponent, but it has a little disvantage in most.

Normal = Treecko

1st = Rock = Offensive advantage
2nd = Fighting = Neutral both (Treecko´s low defense can be a problem)
3rd = Electric = Defensive advantage, Neutral offensive (Magnemite has a point)
4th = Fire = Both Disvantage
5th = Normal = both Neutral
6th = Flying = Both disvantage
7th = Psychic = offensive Advantage (Same Claydol, Solrock, Lunatone case. Xatu gets a little problematic, but other Pokémon can take care of it)
8th = Water = Offensive advantage, Defensive disvantage (Common ice attacks)

E4
Dark = Pratically neutral
Ghost = ^ Ditto
Ice = Disvantage defensive, offensive advantage
Dragon = If it has Dragon Claw, then it´s good, if not, the it´s not good.
Steel = Disvantage both // Water = Advantage both sometimes

Hard = Torchic

1st = Rock = Disvantage both
2nd = Fighting = Neutral (Torchic´s low Defense and speed is bad BTW)
3rd = Electric = Neutral both
4th = Fire = Disvantage both
5th = Normal = Offensive advantage
6th = Flying = Both disvantage
7th = Psychic = Ultra disvantage (Claydol´s Earthquake, Xatu´s Drill Peck, Lunatone´s Psychic and Solrock can defend)
8th = Disvantage too

E4
Dark = Advantage both
Ghost = Disvantage both (At least it can´t get burned)
Ice = Sorta disvantage, Sealeo and Walrein Surf can cause problems
Dragon = Disvantage both (common Earthquakes and Kingdra´s Surf)
Steel = Just 3 Pokés are Steel typed, the other 3 can cause some problems // Water = Complete disvantage.


That´s why I got Torchic in emerald =D I like Hard games.
 
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kirkeastment

Completing The Trio
why do you all think it so hard for a blaziken to beat the 7th gym its a cake walk

claydol - 1HKO sky uppercut
xatu - 1HKO blaze kick
solrock and lunatone{both rock type} - sky uppercut

the 8th gym is also a walkover if you keep it so that your blaziken has slash as one of its attacks
 
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Pokemonger49777

IT'S ASHER JESUS!!!
That is rather unfair. Just evolove torchic before you challenge Roxxanne and it'll be a little easier.
 
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kirkeastment

Completing The Trio
^exactly if by the time you get to roxanne you haven't got combusken then you must be a crap trainer
 
Volteon

Volteon

Back I guess??
why do you all think it so hard for a blaziken to beat the 7th gym its a cake walk

claydol - 1HKO sky uppercut
xatu - 1HKO blaze kick
solrock and lunatone{both rock type} - sky uppercut

the 8th gym is also a walkover if you keep it so that your blaziken has slash as one of its attacks
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^ You forgot to tell us the (big) diference of level to happen this...

if they´re in the same or in a semelhant level....

Claydol has 100% chance to resist Blaziken´s SkyUppercut with Defense reduction Nature and no defense/HP EVs (Even if it deals Critical Hit)

Xatu resists Blaziken´s Blaze kick with more or less 20% HP with S.defense reduction Nature and no S.defense/HP EVs

Lunatone faints against Blaziken´s Sky Uppercut.
EDIT:
Ops, forgot to ditch the Critical hit box xD Lunatone resists with 100% chance against Blaziken´s Sky Uppercut (it deals 66~78% HP, with Defense reduction Nature and no HP/Defense EVs)

Solrock has about 20% chance to resist Blaziken´s Sky Uppercut, remember with No HP/Defense EVs (Which I doubt because in Emerald even Alakazam has Defense EVs)
EDIT: Forgot to ditch CH Box too:
it has also 100% chance to resist Blaziken´s Sky Uppercut, it deals 53~63% HP with no HP/Defense EVs and with a defense reduction nature.
 
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Rhea

Ruby & Gold fangirl~
kirkeastment said:
^exactly if by the time you get to roxanne you haven't got combusken then you must be a crap trainer
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....:| Not true.


theres the people who don't overtrain. I train when I NEED it. I usually have my starter evolved by the second gym, and evolved again by the 3rd of 4th.




I didn't find it that hard with Torchic.
I think I chose it that one day where I got to wallace in a day..
 
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Soloution

Active Member
too beat 8th gym leader and all of elite four. catch rayquaza with an ULTRA BALL!!!!! there r way tougher pokemon outher then him

dont use ur masterball on kyogre or groudon aswell

there easy as

instead save it and clone it with ur pokemon when u defeat elite four

neway catch rayquaza. teach him thunderbolt. and go on to defeat gym leader and elite four
 
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azurill

Well-Known Member
Yes but it has a ton advantages at the E4
 
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