Unpopular opinions about Pokemon manga

[Weedy Spyze]

The characters, mostly. I like White, but not Black. Part of my dislike of the BW arc stems from the fact that I didn't play the games, and I don't plan to either.

Pardon my curiosity, but why is Black your avvie if you don't like him or his arc, and have never played his game?

I can see where what most fans see Red but he was meant to surpassed it was never meant to be some legendary unbeatable stoic hermit of a Pokemon trainer they people are all to fond of. Off-topic, I know but just had to get it off my chest.

I hate the popular viewpoint of Game!Red. Whenever I see one of those "badass" fanart poses of Red on Deviantart or whatever I die a little inside. I just prefer to see him as a more happy-go-lucky person, rather than a kid with a permanent scowl. That's depressing as hell. I like to think of him being almost exactly like his manga counterpart, actually. That's probably why Manga!Red is my favorite character.

Good Ghetsis quote, it fits how the villains think quite well. Though, I don't really believe they're gods but rather very powerful pokemon that are one-of-a-kind. The problem is that we don't always see how they're captured and they just appear with barely a comment. For instance, Lila/Anabel suddenly appears with Raikou and there's barely a comment on it. Another example is that Latio/as are working and friends with Emerald for almost no reason. No resistance, no struggle to control them, nothing. I can understand limits, but such things were just recently shown. Before then, they really did come off as regular pokemon like the common pikachuu. Heck, Pika resisted Red more than half of the legendaries shown. The best and my favorite was how Kyogre and Groudon were written, with Giratina as the runner-up. Rather than have two puny humans controlled them or being completely mindless, they control the humans and talk using them showing they aren't just mindless fighting beasts. Sure it could of been a bit better, but it really gave a sense that the legendaries are a force to be reckoned with if you take that risk. I like when the legendaries aren't push-overs and have minds of their own so they can rebel if they so wanted.

You have some good viewpoints here. Given me a little bit more to think about. I never cared for Latias or Latios' role in the manga at all, but on the other hand I have no clue how I'd improve them either.

Speaking of Anabel btw, I didn't really like how they made her the "leader" of the Frontier Brains. To me, Brandon suits that role better. But instead they made him a butt monkey to Emerald...

Somehow that just makes me love Gold more. Sure, I would love to talk!

Great, I guess I'll send you a message in the morning if you haven't sent one to me first by then.

And I can really believe that happening with lots of holy music in the background. Uggh. Agreed; I don't mind the humans having super skills and abilities, but the powers were pretty out of place and overall pointless. I see, well, it's okay if you like her. I do like the whole "E4 being evil, but not really" and the focus on Pika and his issues aspects, I just don't like her as character. I feel that other characters like Green would of been better for the arc. I certainly wouldn't mind her retiring forever. It would be nice, actually. Heh, I would even say that GSC could of been fine without her with a little rewriting.

LOL @ the bold. Why does the Viridian Forest have those special "powers" to give people, anyway? Was that ever explained? Probably not. And don't worry about breaking my heart or anything lol, like I said I like Yellow to some degree but she's still extremely low tier as far rankings go. Probably in my bottom five of the main characters.

Oh and I enjoyed the Elite Four being villains as well. It was interesting. I don't think Blue (assuming you mean the boy) would've fit as the hero of the Yellow arc, though. If they were getting rid of Red, I think it was necessary to create a new character to serve as Yellow's protagonist. Ergo, Yellow was needed at the time, but she's not really needed anymore. In my opinion, at least.

Oh really? That's news to me! I had no idea he was ever a owner, but I'm not surprised. I mean, it's not like the Pokedexes can't be restored to their default, pffft. Man, Mitsuru always gets the short of the stick. Maybe, but I had actually liked him a bit before his whole backstory popped up and I still couldn't bring myself to care. It's just too forced and bad. Frankly, I see Emerald as a lost cause, haha.

Well that was only in the magazine run, the volumes rewrote history so that Oak registered Emerald as the Pokedex's owner beforehand (for reasons that seem completely illogical to me...again, silly senile old man). You can still pick out the exact panel where Wally originally registered himself---it was on accident, after he collapsed on the Pokedex after reaching Sky Pillar's 50th floor. It just spews bogus error messages in the volume.

And Emerald is a lost cause, exactly. Nothing they could do can ever make me like him.

I like that vision of game!Red because he can be pretty interesting when he does loses. That and I like stoic characters since they can be fun to mess with with characters like game!Green and Hibiki and tend to be darn cool. Though, he would be hard to make likeable if it wasn't for these characters, I'll admit.

On that note, I hate how Red and Green's rivalry was handled in PokeSpe. I like rivalries as they not make the characters more fun to watch/read, it also helps in the development. It would of helped those two be a lot better characters and, at least, the bickering would make up for the rest of their lackluster personalities. Their friendship (if you can call it that), as shown in FRLG and GSC, is just meh. Below average.

I see, I see. From the little I've seen, I don't like Black (or White yet) too much either. You may not be alone yet.

I like stoic characters as well, I just don't think Game!Red fits as one. Like I said earlier in this post, I prefer to see him as more like his manga counterpart. Although I guess the whole thing about the silent protagonist is that we're supposed to decide what their personality is supposed to be like for ourselves, so eh.

I agree with you here. Their whole "best friend" thing during FRLG was extremely awkward. It probably would've worked better if Blue had his game personality in the manga. His game personality is soooo much better than his boring serious guy demeanor in Adventures. -____-

Poor Black. Don't worry buddy, I still love you. <3

 

[Ludger]

Crys whether replaced Lyra is decision by Kusaka...... ;238;

Oh, I never consider that. Sorry

So..... So many things About Adventures Huh. Well I could add some more

From ReBurst
1. I personally think that The Protagonist Girl is just somekind of Mary Sue. I mean she just another character that become somekind of addition so FanBoys could enjoy it. No, Her naivity is worse than any other character in ReBurst and nobody or nothing can make me like her

2. They should make more character developement about th Girl. Ryouga makes pretty good character and I like that. That Girl is just an additional Character that only makes thing not really cool

From Adventures (Again)

1. White is more like a "Cute" person rather in games which display her as a "Badass Girl". Look at her Eyes. That's why I still like her shipping with N, Even in Manga.

2. Is Black is somekind of referrencing this person.

3. Prof Elm didn't make any Darn appearance. HGSS arc filled it with Gym Leaders appearance and no place for Prof Elm and Pryce(An Irony)

4. Pryce after all what makes me interested in any Ice types and Leaders because he is kinda Anti-Villain. And he do it with love. However with any other Gym leaders appear he didn't :<. Well I just want him to be good guys after all that's how I like it

And well, Professor Oak was the one who gave Crystal the Pokedex and the capturing job, so it makes more sense for her to be his assitant rather than Elm, whom she never really associated with at all. Besides, Elm already had an assitant--Joey.

Well, He didn't help him with Spiky Eared Pichu things. And of course Prof Oak is the one that give her a Pokedex . But yeah I think you are right, But Poor Prof Elm cannot make Gold his Assistant because of his nature. I hope someone who is crucial in this manga filled that place. Only Joey, I don't think that's enough.

Battling and capturing wild pokemon is not the same as battling trainers. In a straight up brawl with another trainer who focuses on battling, Crystal would lose. She just wasn't a battler. She was a capture specialist and apparently now a researcher.

That's why she lose against Blue in Battle Frontier battle. I like her overall exept her blue hair and totally serious demeanor. She didn't have any blue hair expet after GSC. Which makes her pretty bad

 

[Platinum fan.]

Pardon my curiosity, but why is Black your avvie if you don't like him or his arc, and have never played his game?



I hate the popular viewpoint of Game!Red. Whenever I see one of those "badass" fanart poses of Red on Deviantart or whatever I die a little inside. I just prefer to see him as a more happy-go-lucky person, rather than a kid with a permanent scowl. That's depressing as hell. I like to think of him being almost exactly like his manga counterpart, actually. That's probably why Manga!Red is my favorite character.



You have some good viewpoints here. Given me a little bit more to think about. I never cared for Latias or Latios' role in the manga at all, but on the other hand I have no clue how I'd improve them either.

Speaking of Anabel btw, I didn't really like how they made her the "leader" of the Frontier Brains. To me, Brandon suits that role better. But instead they made him a butt monkey to Emerald...



Great, I guess I'll send you a message in the morning if you haven't sent one to me first by then.



LOL @ the bold. Why does the Viridian Forest have those special "powers" to give people, anyway? Was that ever explained? Probably not. And don't worry about breaking my heart or anything lol, like I said I like Yellow to some degree but she's still extremely low tier as far rankings go. Probably in my bottom five of the main characters.

Oh and I enjoyed the Elite Four being villains as well. It was interesting. I don't think Blue (assuming you mean the boy) would've fit as the hero of the Yellow arc, though. If they were getting rid of Red, I think it was necessary to create a new character to serve as Yellow's protagonist. Ergo, Yellow was needed at the time, but she's not really needed anymore. In my opinion, at least.



Well that was only in the magazine run, the volumes rewrote history so that Oak registered Emerald as the Pokedex's owner beforehand (for reasons that seem completely illogical to me...again, silly senile old man). You can still pick out the exact panel where Wally originally registered himself---it was on accident, after he collapsed on the Pokedex after reaching Sky Pillar's 50th floor. It just spews bogus error messages in the volume.

And Emerald is a lost cause, exactly. Nothing they could do can ever make me like him.



I like stoic characters as well, I just don't think Game!Red fits as one. Like I said earlier in this post, I prefer to see him as more like his manga counterpart. Although I guess the whole thing about the silent protagonist is that we're supposed to decide what their personality is supposed to be like for ourselves, so eh.

I agree with you here. Their whole "best friend" thing during FRLG was extremely awkward. It probably would've worked better if Blue had his game personality in the manga. His game personality is soooo much better than his boring serious guy demeanor in Adventures. -____-

Poor Black. Don't worry buddy, I still love you. <3

I also dislike the whole view on Game Red as being this unbeatable trainer. I thought I was the only one who dies on the inside when I see him with this emotionless look on his face. Not to mention all the people who suck up to him saying he's unbeatable. Could have sworn Gold/Ethan, when playable, defeated him. I prefer Red to be the happy good guy as well as opposed to the no emotion "cool" trainer that Deviantart mostly portray him.

I will admit it was weird that Anabel was the leader of the Frontier Brains, I personally would have thought Spencer would have been the leader...maybe because he has that stereotype wiseman look to him

 

[pika09]

Pardon my curiosity, but why is Black your avvie if you don't like him or his arc, and have never played his game?

Eh, I can't find any other interesting avi.

 

[Durbe]

Firstly, I agree about Yellow. I found the entire arc a waste. In fact, I'm really, really glad that I'm /not/ the only one who sees Yellow as a Mary Sue. With all that healing abilities and being able to read a Pokemon's mind? Obviously. She would have been a better character if she was a perfectly normal human with no special power; perhaps making use of potions instead.
To be honest, I LOVE the GSC arc. It's possibly because Crystal was the first game I played, but I found the part where Crystal took the main spotlight in the GSC arc annoying as well. I was impatiently reading through it just to see Gold and Silver return. Suicune was a total, unneeded filler. It didn't have to spend that much time just to look for a trainer, did it? I didn't like the fact that Pryce was the Masked Man and all as well. Could've been someone else with a completely different intention.
I dislike the fact that Emerald became the third Hoenn Pokedex holder and Wally totally deserved it, but looking through the thread, I don't think that's an unpopular opinion.

And finally one that hasn't been mentioned yet: I've never liked Sird. I don't know, I just dislike her. She just shows up almost everywhere as a villain. It's starting to get a little too annoying for me. The part where she turned the 5 Pokedex holders into stones wasn't too interesting either.

 

[Weedy Spyze]

But yeah I think you are right, But Poor Prof Elm cannot make Gold his Assistant because of his nature. I hope someone who is crucial in this manga filled that place. Only Joey, I don't think that's enough.

Well I'd rather not someone 'crucial' to the manga (assuming you mean a dex owner) be Professor Elm's assistant. They have more important and interesting things to do, like saving dah wurld from overpowered legendaries and psychotic villains. Not everyone is a boring girl with no personality and nothing else to do like Crystal. Besides, Joey is a fine character. I kinda wish his role had been expanded more tbh, I enjoyed seeing him interacting with Gold near the beginning of GSC. His Rattata is in the top percentage after all! XD

And finally one that hasn't been mentioned yet: I've never liked Sird. I don't know, I just dislike her. She just shows up almost everywhere as a villain. It's starting to get a little too annoying for me. The part where she turned the 5 Pokedex holders into stones wasn't too interesting either.

What are you talking about? That part was awesome. Definitely one of the times the manga completely floored me, I loved it. The fact that FRLG is the only arc where the heroes really 'lost' in some way (making it stand out a lot more) makes it even better. Plus, it provided a great sequal hook to Emerald. Without Red and co. being turned into statues, there really would've been no reason for them (or Gold and Crystal) to appear in the Emerald arc.

I don't really care much for Sird any more, though. If her storyline is finished in HGSS, I'll be fine with it, but I don't want it to go any further than that. She has no business in the BW storyline, and if she's in cahoots with Ghetsis in any way I'll probably scream.

What did everyone think of the 'titles' silly senile Professor Oak gave to the original seven Pokedex holders at the end of GSC? I have mixed feelings about it, but overall I found them unnecessary. The one that bugs me the most is Green being the 'evolver.' She never displayed any special knowledge about evolution beforehand (in fact, she never even EVOLVED most of her Pokemon until FRLG, for no good reason I might add), and it just feels like she was just given that skill randomly and it was only elaborated upon in future arcs. Silver being the trader is a close second. How is trading some kind of special skill that needs to be mastered? :S

Last one. I really didn't like the obsession over the so-called "ultimate attacks" in FRLG and the end of Emerald. I don't like those attacks anyway, and I hated seeing Red, Blue, and Green over-rely on them so much during FRLG. It's like they forgot Venusuar, Charizard, and Blastoise could learn any other attack, and it even struck me as ooc for someone like Blue. The whole "Take this! Triple Finish!" thing at the end of Emerald was badass, but I don't want to see the "ultimate attacks" be an important plot point ever again.

 

[Durbe]

What are you talking about? That part was awesome. Definitely one of the times the manga completely floored me, I loved it. The fact that FRLG is the only arc where the heroes really 'lost' in some way (making it stand out a lot more) makes it even better. Plus, it provided a great sequal hook to Emerald. Without Red and co. being turned into statues, there really would've been no reason for them (or Gold and Crystal) to appear in the Emerald arc.

I don't really care much for Sird any more, though. If her storyline is finished in HGSS, I'll be fine with it, but I don't want it to go any further than that. She has no business in the BW storyline, and if she's in cahoots with Ghetsis in any way I'll probably scream.

What did everyone think of the 'titles' silly senile Professor Oak gave to the original seven Pokedex holders at the end of GSC? I have mixed feelings about it, but overall I found them unnecessary. The one that bugs me the most is Green being the 'evolver.' She never displayed any special knowledge about evolution beforehand (in fact, she never even EVOLVED most of her Pokemon until FRLG, for no good reason I might add), and it just feels like she was just given that skill randomly and it was only elaborated upon in future arcs. Silver being the trader is a close second. How is trading some kind of special skill that needs to be mastered? :S

Last one. I really didn't like the obsession over the so-called "ultimate attacks" in FRLG and the end of Emerald. I don't like those attacks anyway, and I hated seeing Red, Blue, and Green over-rely on them so much during FRLG. It's like they forgot Venusuar, Charizard, and Blastoise could learn any other attack, and it even struck me as ooc for someone like Blue. The whole "Take this! Triple Finish!" thing at the end of Emerald was badass, but I don't want to see the "ultimate attacks" be an important plot point ever again.

About Sird: Yeah, I agree to the fact that it did give a good reason for the Emerald arc.
Then again, I'm the one that loves happy endings, so that unexpected ending didn't catch me well at all.
God, that'd be very uncreative and way more ridiculous than it'd be.

About the titles: I agree. They ended up being useless, anyway. Seeing how the Pokedex owners starting from the 3rd gen didn't even get titles for themselves, it's been rendered useless. My guess is that the creators were trying to come up with something Prof. Oak would write to make Gold realise his ability or something. Either that or my memory has been rather dusty. Haven't re-read in awhile. The Evolver and Trader confused me, too.

About the Ultimate Attacks: I did like that, but you have a point there that it won't be a nice important plot ever again. It's like Kusaka... Not sure how to phrase it, threw something "big" a little too early? It won't be pleasant if it's used again.

 

[Weedy Spyze]

^ I like happy endings better too, but I also love to see my favorite characters get into some horrible situations because I'm a sadist like that. The petrification is one of my favorite moments in the manga.

As for the ultimate attacks, I didn't mind them learning the moves or anything, I just didn't like Red and co. over-relying on them. It just seemed like a rookie mistake for such alsom trainers like Red or Blue. They weren't thrown in too early, though. They were thrown in because they were introduced in FRLG (the games).

 

[matt0044]

For Yellow, her talking to Pokemon power alone would've been fine but her other powers were pretty overkill. I don't hate her but I feel like she could've been better handled. Her arc was pretty hit and miss for me.

 

[Platinum fan.]

The overuse of the Ultimate Attacks was kinda lame. I mean I liked that they learned them but I wish they wouldn't spam them. Don't Gold and Silver Hydro Cannon and Blast Burn in HGSS as well? At least in the magazine version I heard they did. They should only use the Ultimate Attacks in extreme measures and make them feel actually special or something like that.

 

[Hero of Ideals]

Wow, so I'm not the only one who thinks Yellow is a Sue.

My gripe with the Manga's popularity is how some think the manga cast are stronger than the anime cast. If the manga cast were developed better and everyone (Anime) were developed, they be evenly matched.

Plus my view on Platina is she was a bit of a snob in the begining

 

[Platinum fan.]

When people say the Manga cast is stronger then the Anime cast, while it is debatable I suppose it's a matter of opinion. It doesn't bother me because to a certain extent I agree. It's only annoying when full out anime bashing comes into play. Now that is annoying and there's no reason to hate on it.

Platinum was a snobby brat and the begining. It was her personality.

 

[Weedy Spyze]

The overuse of the Ultimate Attacks was kinda lame. I mean I liked that they learned them but I wish they wouldn't spam them. Don't Gold and Silver Hydro Cannon and Blast Burn in HGSS as well? At least in the magazine version I heard they did. They should only use the Ultimate Attacks in extreme measures and make them feel actually special or something like that.

Yeah, I guess spamming them would've been better wording. It just feels like such a "LOL noob!" move. Not fitting for such amazing~ trainers like Red or Blue.

Oh and I hate the name 'Platina.' It just sounds awkward and terrible to me. And I think the logic of using it instead of Platinum because it sounds more 'feminine' is almost comical. Putting an 'a' at the end of something does not automatically make it sound more feminine.

As for a new topic, is there any Pokemon on a certain character's team that you wish they ddn't have (or vice versa)? I always thought Gyarados for Red was extremely redundant. He already had Poliwrath for a water-type, and was about to get Aerodactyl as a Flying type (and Gyarados is only a Flying type in name only anyway...). What can Gyarados do that both of them together can't do? He should either be given back to Misty or rot in the box imo, and Espeon needs to stay on Red's team.

 

[Platinum fan.]

Yeah, I guess spamming them would've been better wording. It just feels like such a "LOL noob!" move. Not fitting for such amazing~ trainers like Red or Blue.

Oh and I hate the name 'Platina.' It just sounds awkward and terrible to me. And I think the logic of using it instead of Platinum because it sounds more 'feminine' is almost comical. Putting an 'a' at the end of something does not automatically make it sound more feminine.

As for a new topic, is there any Pokemon on a certain character's team that you wish they ddn't have (or vice versa)? I always thought Gyarados for Red was extremely redundant. He already had Poliwrath for a water-type, and was about to get Aerodactyl as a Flying type (and Gyarados is only a Flying type in name only anyway...). What can Gyarados do that both of them together can't do? He should either be given back to Misty or rot in the box imo, and Espeon needs to stay on Red's team.

I admit I use to call her Platina when I first joined. Now I just call her Platinum. Platinum just sounds better overall anyway. I don't mind when people call her that but I broke out of the habit awhile ago.

The spamming of the ultimate moves is kinda why I'm glad the Sinnoh Trio didn't pick it up. Because there really isn't any stronger moves for starters to learn other then the Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon.

As for Gyarados, it was alright by me. True I like Espeon more but Gyarados never bothered me. For some reason though I always could see Red getting a Growlithe on his team.

 

[Hero of Ideals]

Doesn't one of the holders have a Regi, that should go. Others should have a legendary.

Ever heard of Pokespe meets Anime! Worst characterization for the manga cast and Anime cas t. Made me hate Silver, Emerald, and Blue before I decided to develop them myself

 

[Weedy Spyze]

For some reason though I always could see Red getting a Growlithe on his team.

Arcanine would be awesome for Red, especially since he doesn't have a fire type. Him getting to keep that Ninetales that he and Blue fought over would've been cool too, but actually I would've given Green a Vulpix/Ninetales over Clefable. And Gloom over Nidoqueen. Having her demonstrate the other evolution stones other than the Moon Stone would've been good to drive home the "evolver" idea.

EDIT: Emerald arc.

Latias: "The scent of the soil of its [a Pokemon's] hometown makes even the angriest Pokemon come back to its senses by soothing its heart!"

How? Why does that happen?

 

[lolipiece]

Yeah, I guess spamming them would've been better wording. It just feels like such a "LOL noob!" move. Not fitting for such amazing~ trainers like Red or Blue.

Oh and I hate the name 'Platina.' It just sounds awkward and terrible to me. And I think the logic of using it instead of Platinum because it sounds more 'feminine' is almost comical. Putting an 'a' at the end of something does not automatically make it sound more feminine.

As for a new topic, is there any Pokemon on a certain character's team that you wish they ddn't have (or vice versa)? I always thought Gyarados for Red was extremely redundant. He already had Poliwrath for a water-type, and was about to get Aerodactyl as a Flying type (and Gyarados is only a Flying type in name only anyway...). What can Gyarados do that both of them together can't do? He should either be given back to Misty or rot in the box imo, and Espeon needs to stay on Red's team.

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOU.

Finally, someone who agrees on that stupid name thing.

 

[TomNamikaze]

Lol I'm not sick, I just kind of like to look at things as objectively as I can. Red and Blue don't stand on their own as completely unbeatable, and if the manga has ever done anything that implies that then you can add that as another point I dislike. It's the same reason I don't like the popular vision of Games!Red being the legendary unbeatable stoic god trainer that nobody could ever compare to. It's just boring. Not to mention invalid since I've beaten him with Gold/Ethan plenty of times and will beat him again with Kyouhei when the new games hit American shores.

I never actually said they were completely unbeatable. I said they're the best trainers around (which was said by Bill in the FRLG arc). And again, I just can't see how Emerald would win against either of them, but hey I heard a Pikachu from the anime had a draw with a Latios and then lost to a newbie Snivy, so I guess everything can happen in Pokémon.
Kyouhei? Is that the name for the BW2 protagonist? If it is, then that means Red will appear in BW2? I would like that. (Yeah, he's not unbeatable, I also beat him a lot of times, but it is a fun battle)

 

[Weedy Spyze]

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOU.

Finally, someone who agrees on that stupid name thing.

Oh absolutely, how did that stupid thing come about anyway?

I never actually said they were completely unbeatable. I said they're the best trainers around (which was said by Bill in the FRLG arc). And again, I just can't see how Emerald would win against either of them, but hey I heard a Pikachu from the anime had a draw with a Latios and then lost to a newbie Snivy, so I guess everything can happen in Pokémon.
Kyouhei? Is that the name for the BW2 protagonist? If it is, then that means Red will appear in BW2? I would like that. (Yeah, he's not unbeatable, I also beat him a lot of times, but it is a fun battle)

Well Bill's not met any dex owners from Hoenn, Sinnoh, or Unova, now has he? So I hardly think he's the best judge on that. And as I said, if the manga's done anything to put Red and Blue on an unreachable pedastal then I don't like that. I definitely think a few of the newer guys could hold their own against Red or Blue. Ruby, Sapphire, Pearl, Platinum, and even Black come to mind.

Yeah, that's the boy's name. And yes, Red is battleable in the World Tournament's champion cup thing. So is Blue.

I'm reading the Emerald arc right now, and I am not liking it as much as I remember. I guess it's just hard to like an arc where you hate the main character. It's a chore to even speed read it just to get to Diamond & Pearl...

 

[Macromind101]

When people say the Manga cast is stronger then the Anime cast, while it is debatable I suppose it's a matter of opinion. It doesn't bother me because to a certain extent I agree. It's only annoying when full out anime bashing comes into play. Now that is annoying and there's no reason to hate on it.

Platinum was a snobby brat and the begining. It was her personality.

Well as for me I don't like the anime as much because, well, first off almost none of the Pokemon evolve, Ash takes like eight months to get from one gym to the next, the characters never age, and there is almost no character development. I do watch the anime sometimes just for fun and I do admit that some parts of the anime are pretty cool (like the battles between Ash and Paul) but overall the anime just seems to be a big blow compared to the manga. In my personal experience, I've been following the anime obsessively and getting disappointed at numerous points up until I was 13 when my friend told me that I can find manga scanlations online. There I found everything I was looking for in a Pokemon franchise and that's when I got into the Pokemon Adventures manga and gave up on the anime (though like I said, I do watch it for fun at times).

And yeah, I didn't like Platina as much at the beginning, though she got better as a character as time passed. In fact, just take away the "rich girl" personality and she got the place as my favorite female character since she's the only female dexholder who's a battler (besides Sapphire but I don't like her much). Right now my favorite female character is Crystal because she's the only character in the entire franchise who actually "caught em all" and I think the Lyra look is pretty attractive on her. B| I also like Yellow because of her "innocent little girl" personality and she can take a fiery persona when angered. She's also the unique "fourth dexholder". Not sure why so many people don't like her. :/