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Oh boy from where to start?
1.)I thought Johto saga was fairly decent and personally i never really understood fuss this series are getting. When i watched it for first time i enjoyed in majority of episodes, main cast and TR antics and even today there are arcs and episodes i always like to go back and watch being incredibly enjoyable. Admittedly there did existed lack of direction in which characters and story would be taken with removal of GS bvall plot doing more harm than good.
But as whole gym battles and battling in general was improved (highlights were Clair, Pryce and Morty gym matches).
There were several mini-arcs which happened to be fantastic imo like Whirl islands being crowned with Whirl Cup tournament which offered quite a lot of development for Misty and her career of becoming water master. Team Rocket as organization started to be more threatening influencing story to more significant degree which can be noticed with Red Gyarados arc which brought Lance, or Lugia storyline with dr. Namba.
And while it may had lot of fillers several of them were actually enjoyable and very memorable for me being one of best episodes in history and interacting between group was still great with Ash, Misty and Brock bringing lot of humor ad fun dynamic on several occasions.
Looking back i actually feel Johto had more lighthearted humor and vibrant dynamic than successor series contained afterwards.
And i liked concept of this saga being treated as direct sequel to Kanto and OI with Ash not starting from scratch building up on his team and skills as trainer. Instead of resetting and going backwards.
Since there was present build up on friendship between Ash and traveling companions becoming more close and familiar with both their qualities and flaws , strengthening their bond further since Kanto days. . And because of same cast there existed connection to past sagas Ash traveled through with several references and return of past individuals(like Aya, Todd Snapp, Duplica, Ritchie) strengthening idea of having entity formulated anime.
2.)I don't necessarily share same view of "May and Dawn being best handled females in pokemon" with quantity not necessarily following quality.
Writing about their careers and story was without doubt handled better , but in character sense i think Misty was more deep and complex as character having highly wide and diverse specter of emotions she expressed finding right balance between hotheaded and girly side.
She had imo one of most believable growths character went through in show gradually growing in mature, independent person through friends help, as well stronger trainer coming long way since early days when she just wanted to run away from sister shadow being full of insecurity and self doubts. While keeping qualities which makes her enjoyable still being sarcastic, brash and adventurous adding fresh note to it along with lot of fresh potential waiting to be took forward.
3.) Maybe its just me but i also find Sinnoh saga to be extremely overrated. Aside from better treatment of rivals and villains theres nothing about this region which stand out for me compared to others. It had weak characterization and interactions between main cast imo, it lacked humor with comedy aspect often feeling contrived and one dimensional lacking that subtle cleverly designed dialogue previous sagas had. Contest and gym quest dragged on for longer than it was needed with writers wasting too much time on training for appeals for my taste, instead of utilizing extra focus they had on their hands for development of other characters and rivals. Like Brock, Kenny or Nando.
Not to mention i didn't found battles from Sinnoh to be so much spectacular and superior compared to other sagas like many say with AG , Johto and BW having many great battles too. .
Looking back i feel it was mistake to cram everything in 4 years, when filler arc would be much more helpful to maintain steam DP achieved in first half of its run.
4.) I don't support cast changes, because in my eyes it only promotes dispersed continuity, shallow storyline and discourage fans from growing attached to characters since its known from start how they will end up forgotten after they leave anyway.
Personally i don't see any point in constantly getting new companions which will end up replaced halfway unfinished anyway, when previous ones have more than enough potential to expand upon.
And with that line of thought in mind i would rather want that writers actually do build up on already established character and his story doing new, fresh things like Misty, May, Dawn etc. Since they already have background and developed story to pick up and work upon.
That would be more unpredictable and bring new twist to pokemon series than constantly bringing new ones which don't bring anything new which previous companions couldn't really(aside from different face) for me.
Looking back i feel it was mistake to cram everything in 4 years, when filler arc would be much more helpful to maintain steam DP achieved in first half of its run.
Which is terrible move to make both from marketing and popularity standpoint if you ask me. Its disrespecting both toward characters and anime history eroding foundations on which series popularity was build, damage its reputation through bad word of mouth and aleniates viewers from anime failing to maintain watcher loyalty.
Personally i never had any problem with it, but i agree how Togepi not evolving or battling back than was one big missed opportunity which could have been great addition to her team allowing to be more active. Instead most of time it was useless barely doing much which was mistake.
On positive side i guess Togepi played some role in Misty characterization being step toward maturity in future, growing in nice blend of spunky and playful yet more independent character at end of Master Quest and chronicles.
Granted Misty didn't received enough focus and growth during her run, but i wouldn't necessarily say how that was Togepi but more writers fault and result of wrongly set priorities. Either way she was still notably active, memorable character imo and i don't think she was turn in "inactive mother which just stood aside". Especially when she was very eager about achieving her water master goal in Johto receiving more focus on her story there, distinctively during Whirl Islands. She battled, brought humor and good chemistry within group, had her own dreams, coached and mentored Ash along with influencing plot on several occasions in Orange islands and Johto. More than she did in Kanto if you ask me.
1.)I thought Johto saga was fairly decent and personally i never really understood fuss this series are getting. When i watched it for first time i enjoyed in majority of episodes, main cast and TR antics and even today there are arcs and episodes i always like to go back and watch being incredibly enjoyable. Admittedly there did existed lack of direction in which characters and story would be taken with removal of GS bvall plot doing more harm than good.
But as whole gym battles and battling in general was improved (highlights were Clair, Pryce and Morty gym matches).
There were several mini-arcs which happened to be fantastic imo like Whirl islands being crowned with Whirl Cup tournament which offered quite a lot of development for Misty and her career of becoming water master. Team Rocket as organization started to be more threatening influencing story to more significant degree which can be noticed with Red Gyarados arc which brought Lance, or Lugia storyline with dr. Namba.
And while it may had lot of fillers several of them were actually enjoyable and very memorable for me being one of best episodes in history and interacting between group was still great with Ash, Misty and Brock bringing lot of humor ad fun dynamic on several occasions.
Looking back i actually feel Johto had more lighthearted humor and vibrant dynamic than successor series contained afterwards.
And i liked concept of this saga being treated as direct sequel to Kanto and OI with Ash not starting from scratch building up on his team and skills as trainer. Instead of resetting and going backwards.
Since there was present build up on friendship between Ash and traveling companions becoming more close and familiar with both their qualities and flaws , strengthening their bond further since Kanto days. . And because of same cast there existed connection to past sagas Ash traveled through with several references and return of past individuals(like Aya, Todd Snapp, Duplica, Ritchie) strengthening idea of having entity formulated anime.
2.)I don't necessarily share same view of "May and Dawn being best handled females in pokemon" with quantity not necessarily following quality.
Writing about their careers and story was without doubt handled better , but in character sense i think Misty was more deep and complex as character having highly wide and diverse specter of emotions she expressed finding right balance between hotheaded and girly side.
She had imo one of most believable growths character went through in show gradually growing in mature, independent person through friends help, as well stronger trainer coming long way since early days when she just wanted to run away from sister shadow being full of insecurity and self doubts. While keeping qualities which makes her enjoyable still being sarcastic, brash and adventurous adding fresh note to it along with lot of fresh potential waiting to be took forward.
3.) Maybe its just me but i also find Sinnoh saga to be extremely overrated. Aside from better treatment of rivals and villains theres nothing about this region which stand out for me compared to others. It had weak characterization and interactions between main cast imo, it lacked humor with comedy aspect often feeling contrived and one dimensional lacking that subtle cleverly designed dialogue previous sagas had. Contest and gym quest dragged on for longer than it was needed with writers wasting too much time on training for appeals for my taste, instead of utilizing extra focus they had on their hands for development of other characters and rivals. Like Brock, Kenny or Nando.
Not to mention i didn't found battles from Sinnoh to be so much spectacular and superior compared to other sagas like many say with AG , Johto and BW having many great battles too. .
Looking back i feel it was mistake to cram everything in 4 years, when filler arc would be much more helpful to maintain steam DP achieved in first half of its run.
4.) I don't support cast changes, because in my eyes it only promotes dispersed continuity, shallow storyline and discourage fans from growing attached to characters since its known from start how they will end up forgotten after they leave anyway.
Personally i don't see any point in constantly getting new companions which will end up replaced halfway unfinished anyway, when previous ones have more than enough potential to expand upon.
And with that line of thought in mind i would rather want that writers actually do build up on already established character and his story doing new, fresh things like Misty, May, Dawn etc. Since they already have background and developed story to pick up and work upon.
That would be more unpredictable and bring new twist to pokemon series than constantly bringing new ones which don't bring anything new which previous companions couldn't really(aside from different face) for me.
Looking back i feel it was mistake to cram everything in 4 years, when filler arc would be much more helpful to maintain steam DP achieved in first half of its run.
Which is terrible move to make both from marketing and popularity standpoint if you ask me. Its disrespecting both toward characters and anime history eroding foundations on which series popularity was build, damage its reputation through bad word of mouth and aleniates viewers from anime failing to maintain watcher loyalty.
Personally i never had any problem with it, but i agree how Togepi not evolving or battling back than was one big missed opportunity which could have been great addition to her team allowing to be more active. Instead most of time it was useless barely doing much which was mistake.
On positive side i guess Togepi played some role in Misty characterization being step toward maturity in future, growing in nice blend of spunky and playful yet more independent character at end of Master Quest and chronicles.
Granted Misty didn't received enough focus and growth during her run, but i wouldn't necessarily say how that was Togepi but more writers fault and result of wrongly set priorities. Either way she was still notably active, memorable character imo and i don't think she was turn in "inactive mother which just stood aside". Especially when she was very eager about achieving her water master goal in Johto receiving more focus on her story there, distinctively during Whirl Islands. She battled, brought humor and good chemistry within group, had her own dreams, coached and mentored Ash along with influencing plot on several occasions in Orange islands and Johto. More than she did in Kanto if you ask me.
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