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Unpopular Pokemon opinions V2 (READ FIRST POST)

GearChange

Elite Haxor
I've never cared for Game!Red. Its cool that you got to battle him on top of Mt.Silver, but I hate how the series tries to paint him as this legendary trainer, despite him not being all that much when compared to the other protagonists. I'd think May/Brenden taming Rayqauza, riding it to space to battle Deoxys to save the entire world would make someone even more of a legend. Or maybe Dawn/Lucas willing following Cynthia and Cyrus into the Distortion world and having to battle Giratina. Or how about Elio/Selene riding a Legendary to another dimension to fight Ultra Necrozma, which im pretty sure was being worshipped as a god? Not too mention that Ethan/Kris/Lyra had to deal with what was left of Team Rocket in Johto, and if that whole time hopping plot with Celebi is canon then they also defeated Giovanni and disbanded Team Rocket for good.
 

shoz999

Back when Tigers used to smoke.
I've never cared for Game!Red. Its cool that you got to battle him on top of Mt.Silver, but I hate how the series tries to paint him as this legendary trainer, despite him not being all that much when compared to the other protagonists. I'd think May/Brenden taming Rayqauza, riding it to space to battle Deoxys to save the entire world would make someone even more of a legend. Or maybe Dawn/Lucas willing following Cynthia and Cyrus into the Distortion world and having to battle Giratina. Or how about Elio/Selene riding a Legendary to another dimension to fight Ultra Necrozma, which im pretty sure was being worshipped as a god? Not too mention that Ethan/Kris/Lyra had to deal with what was left of Team Rocket in Johto, and if that whole time hopping plot with Celebi is canon then they also defeated Giovanni and disbanded Team Rocket for good.
One of the things I wished GameFreak would do is to embrace Red as a character, for starters. Have him speak, tell the player what he's been doing all these years outside of training in a mountain somewhere. The "..." joke is honestly getting pretty old and here's the thing. One of the things I like about the Let's Go games is that we actually get to see some interesting character development from the other two main Gen 1 characters, Green Oak becoming a Gym Leader and Blue having a connection to Mewtwo. Those are really interesting developments as short as it was and then there's Red who is just "...". Ask almost every fan, he is the least-favorite out of the three in the Let's Go cameos because he doesn't really add anything. I wish they stopped embracing him as "he's supposed to be the player" and more his own character.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

*On Vacation. Go Away!*
In general I think the player character needs a bit more opportunity to have some personality. Particularly in Sword and Shield compared to some of your more interesting opponents you feel a bit bland.
I think customization helps in the personality department since you can choose how your character looks.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
Luthor said:
In general I think the player character needs a bit more opportunity to have some personality. Particularly in Sword and Shield compared to some of your more interesting opponents you feel a bit bland.

I generally dislike the whole silent protagonist bit, so I'd love it if future games would allow us to choose from more pre-programmed dialogue so that we could at least have interesting conversations with other important characters in the games.
 

EmeraldArcanine

#TeamScorbunny
I generally dislike the whole silent protagonist bit, so I'd love it if future games would allow us to choose from more pre-programmed dialogue so that we could at least have interesting conversations with other important characters in the games.
Or do like BOTW Link and find a sorta middle ground, where you do play as a sorta "silent" protagonist, but they give you dialogue options in response to other NPCs that still give you some semblance of character, like sass for instance. And who could forget the legendary "I am he."?
(As much as I don't like comparing SwSh to that game it's my best example of a somewhat silent protag who still has a personality through the player)
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
This is probably not gonna be surprising to anyone, Gen 7 stan that I am, but I actually prefer Gen 7 over Gen 8.

I enjoyed Sw/Sh overall, but IMO, they are among the weakest main series entries in the franchise. It has a lot of nice QOL updates and I like a lot of the new Pokemon and the wild area for the most part, but... I feel like SUMO were better in literally every other way. Better story, better characters with the exception of Hop, better world-building, better music, better postgame (not that SUMO has an amazing postgame, but it's still more than what we got in Sw/Sh). And while I was definitely not on the side of the BBND'ers, it also has the benefit of being able to transfer every Pokemon into the game in its favor.

Maybe it's just me, but with Pokemon games, I do tend to enjoy the new Pokemon themselves, as well as learning about the region itself and the lore surrounding it. And I just think SUMO has Sw/Sh beat there for the most part (I do think the Galar Pokedex is better than the Alola one aside from the starters and legendaries, but they're close).

I know pretty much no one is going to agree with this because SUMO is still kind of in that "sh*t" phase of the Pokemon cycle, but eh. Wouldn't be an unpopular opinion if people agreed with me.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
Golden_Latias said:
This is probably not gonna be surprising to anyone, Gen 7 stan that I am, but I actually prefer Gen 7 over Gen 8.

I actually consider Gen VII to be better than Gen VIII overall. Gen VII just felt more exciting to me and there were more new Pokemon in Alola that I liked compared to the new Pokemon native to Galar. Gen VIII has a few positive aspects like every generation, but I think Gen VII has it beat by a long shot.
 

Golden_Latias

#SlayQueenSlay
I am also largely indifferent to Snom and honestly am kind of tired of seeing literally everybody and their grandmother going bananas over it. Like, it's basically Goomy all over again, and at this point, I would not be surprised to see it on the main cast of the anime just because of how unexpectedly popular it is (just like Goomy).

Like... I don't hate it. Nothing about its design is inherently offense. It's cute and all, appearance is subjective, and I get Bug/Ice has been a highly requested type combination for ages. But I don't think it's the single greatest/cutest Pokemon ever conceived or anything, like a lot of people are making it out to be. I seriously feel like one of the few people out there who prefers Frosmoth to Snom, but that could also just be me liking "pretty"/elegant Pokemon.
 

GearChange

Elite Haxor
Remember Cissy and Danny from the Orange Islands? The first two gym leaders that Ash faced? Those two really shouldn't be gym leaders. First of all Cissy will only face you if you have a Water-Type. The type is abundant, yeah, but not everyone has a water-type on them and I doubt everyone's gonna want to catch an extra pokemon, train it up and then use it for just one gym.

Then you have Danny, who wants you to climb a mountain without the aide of a Pokemon? Why? Aren't gym battles suppose to test the bond you have with said Pokemon? Dunno what mountain climbing has to do with that, unless he's trying to see if you have the guts or something. And lets not forget that he, too, requires that you have pokemon with specific skills. Freezing water from a geyser and then cutting it into a sled. What happens if you lack anything ice related? He gonna freeze it for you? Or what if you have an ice-type move but no way to cut the ice? Also not everyone can just casually climb mountains, especially not the way Ash did it. If you have leg problems and wanan take on the Orange Crew, you're out of luck.

Rudy's alright, just a test of skill and then a battle. Luana just wants a double battle and Drake's a full 6-on-6. But Cissy and Danny? I feel sorry for type-specialists who wants to take on this league.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
GearChange said:
Remember Cissy and Danny from the Orange Islands? The first two gym leaders that Ash faced? Those two really shouldn't be gym leaders. First of all Cissy will only face you if you have a Water-Type. The type is abundant, yeah, but not everyone has a water-type on them and I doubt everyone's gonna want to catch an extra pokemon, train it up and then use it for just one gym.

Then you have Danny, who wants you to climb a mountain without the aide of a Pokemon? Why? Aren't gym battles suppose to test the bond you have with said Pokemon? Dunno what mountain climbing has to do with that, unless he's trying to see if you have the guts or something. And lets not forget that he, too, requires that you have pokemon with specific skills. Freezing water from a geyser and then cutting it into a sled. What happens if you lack anything ice related? He gonna freeze it for you? Or what if you have an ice-type move but no way to cut the ice? Also not everyone can just casually climb mountains, especially not the way Ash did it. If you have leg problems and wanan take on the Orange Crew, you're out of luck.

Rudy's alright, just a test of skill and then a battle. Luana just wants a double battle and Drake's a full 6-on-6. But Cissy and Danny? I feel sorry for type-specialists who wants to take on this league.

I remember disliking Dan greatly during the episode where he debuted because of how perfect he was portrayed as being. Even Satoshi's (Ash's) friends seemed to be enamored with him, which I found vexing. And I still think that forcing challengers to climb to the snowy mountain summit was dangerous and irresponsible.
 

Dicklaycia

Objectively Better Than You
In general I think the player character needs a bit more opportunity to have some personality. Particularly in Sword and Shield compared to some of your more interesting opponents you feel a bit bland.
Honestly, I feel like Sword and Shield improves a bit on the previous games in that aspect. From the times you are prompted with options to speak, some of the things that you can say are pretty sassy. For example, in one of the instances where Hop challenges you to a battle, your options are the typical yes and “But why?”. When you select the latter, Hop says something to the effect of “Seriously? This is the moment when you play along and act pumped up for battle!”.

You can bet that I chose the sassy dialogue options every time they were available. I hope they do expand on options further in future games.
 
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Luthor

Well-Known Member
Honestly, I feel like Sword and Shield improves a bit on the previous games in that aspect. From the times you are prompted with options to speak, some of the things that you can say are pretty sassy. For example, in one of the instances where Hop challenges you to a battle, your options are the typical yes and “But why?”. When you select the latter, Hop says something to the effect of “Seriously? This is the moment when you play along and act pumped up for battle!”.

You can bet that I chose the sassy dialogue options every time they were available. I hope they do expand on options further in future games.

I would be very happy if they were to expand upon it in future games. Still think its a bit lacking.


Another unrelated unpopular opinion- the Police officers in Sword and Shield are terrifying.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
Not a fan of TRs. They seem like a huge step back and a way to artificially lengthen Sword and Shield, by making people fight in raid battles to earn them.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
I don't mind them as a concept but making some of them specific to rare Max battles is where i find it tiresome.
Fair point on that one, since it seems as if running into them is a combination of rng and luck.
 

Weavy

I come and go suddenly
I am probably not going to be making many friends with this one (This is also something that grinds my gears, but since it's also more of an unpopular opinion, I'll leave this here).

I really, really dislike the fact that they locked cross generation evolutions behind regional variants this gen. Regional variants are already something I don't care for mostly, so locking original evolutions behind them is very disappointing to me. Not only does this feel like it makes the originals feel borderline worthless since they don't get evolutions to compensate (especially the likes of Farfetch'd, Corsola and to a lesser extent, Linoone), but I don't think the future will be kind to evolutions like this due to the fact they evolve from specific variations.

There are some Pokemon who would really benefit from an evolution; it would really suck if we had to wait for them to get a regional variant just to get that evolution.
 
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