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MetalSonic
Orderan' Defendan'
Have fun wherever you go, Regi! Wish you coulda dropped by the chat more often, but some other time, yeah?
Already VM'd MMS. I hope this is how it's supposed to be. ^^; Dew?
Subbin. Don't expect me to sub for you all! This isn't subway.
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Dialga @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 196 HP / 252 SpA / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Thunder
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock
Okie so we need 3 things on this team still; Rocks, a steel type (ok not rly mandatory but yknow), and somethin to threaten rock types like Arc-Rock and T-Tar. It's also a very good rocker in unlike Groudon, it doesnt just invite in Giratina/Latias to defog things away cause its quite an offensive rocker. Draco Meteor is the meat of this sets power, OHKO'ing Giratina and weakening Groudon severely for Xerneas. Fire Blast actually roasts Klefki and Arc-Steel, Bronzong, Jirachi and is especially good for Klefki cause it can leave our sweepers with a nasty Para, but Thunder can be used to hit Ho-Oh, Arc-Water, and Tentacruel really hard and Kyogre as well without having to Draco and leave us open afterwards. Both also hit Skarmory which so far give our team a bit of trouble as our only means of dealing with it are brute forcing past it or playing around with it via potential Magic Coat Arc. I don't have to emphasize the importance of Stealth Rock. It's good for whittling things down and arguably even more important is its ability to help limit Ho-Ohs switch ins and breaking Lugias Multiscale.
Flash Cannons is our main way to damage rock types and is decent STAB for a few other things. It's imperative we're able to weaken rock and steel types for our sweepers as thats a lot of pressure on Groudon to take hits and deal with them as well as them resisting Salas only STAB so Dialga is here to lighten the load, though Arceus can help em out with EQ as well. The speed should outspeed most standard Groudon. Oh and Shuca is great to take a hit from Groudon-Prime and retaliate with Draco. It also makes it a check towards Salamence at least once.
Already VM'd MMS. I hope this is how it's supposed to be. ^^; Dew?
Subbin. Don't expect me to sub for you all! This isn't subway.
~~~
Dialga @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 196 HP / 252 SpA / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Thunder
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock
Okie so we need 3 things on this team still; Rocks, a steel type (ok not rly mandatory but yknow), and somethin to threaten rock types like Arc-Rock and T-Tar. It's also a very good rocker in unlike Groudon, it doesnt just invite in Giratina/Latias to defog things away cause its quite an offensive rocker. Draco Meteor is the meat of this sets power, OHKO'ing Giratina and weakening Groudon severely for Xerneas. Fire Blast actually roasts Klefki and Arc-Steel, Bronzong, Jirachi and is especially good for Klefki cause it can leave our sweepers with a nasty Para, but Thunder can be used to hit Ho-Oh, Arc-Water, and Tentacruel really hard and Kyogre as well without having to Draco and leave us open afterwards. Both also hit Skarmory which so far give our team a bit of trouble as our only means of dealing with it are brute forcing past it or playing around with it via potential Magic Coat Arc. I don't have to emphasize the importance of Stealth Rock. It's good for whittling things down and arguably even more important is its ability to help limit Ho-Ohs switch ins and breaking Lugias Multiscale.
Flash Cannons is our main way to damage rock types and is decent STAB for a few other things. It's imperative we're able to weaken rock and steel types for our sweepers as thats a lot of pressure on Groudon to take hits and deal with them as well as them resisting Salas only STAB so Dialga is here to lighten the load, though Arceus can help em out with EQ as well. The speed should outspeed most standard Groudon. Oh and Shuca is great to take a hit from Groudon-Prime and retaliate with Draco. It also makes it a check towards Salamence at least once.
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MetalSonic
Orderan' Defendan'
DiaRubyTandem
The Fastest Comeback
Why so quiet in the chatroom??>_>
Lugia-sama
Sagacity
Have fun wherever you go, Regi! Wish you coulda dropped by the chat more often, but some other time, yeah?
Already VM'd MMS. I hope this is how it's supposed to be. ^^; Dew?
Subbin. Don't expect me to sub for you all! This isn't subway.
~~~
Dialga @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 196 HP / 252 SpA / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Thunder
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock
Okie so we need 3 things on this team still; Rocks, a steel type (ok not rly mandatory but yknow), and somethin to threaten rock types like Arc-Rock and T-Tar. It's also a very good rocker in unlike Groudon, it doesnt just invite in Giratina/Latias to defog things away cause its quite an offensive rocker. Draco Meteor is the meat of this sets power, OHKO'ing Giratina and weakening Groudon severely for Xerneas. Fire Blast actually roasts Klefki and Arc-Steel, Bronzong, Jirachi and is especially good for Klefki cause it can leave our sweepers with a nasty Para, but Thunder can be used to hit Ho-Oh, Arc-Water, and Tentacruel really hard and Kyogre as well without having to Draco and leave us open afterwards. Both also hit Skarmory which so far give our team a bit of trouble as our only means of dealing with it are brute forcing past it or playing around with it via potential Magic Coat Arc. I don't have to emphasize the importance of Stealth Rock. It's good for whittling things down and arguably even more important is its ability to help limit Ho-Ohs switch ins and breaking Lugias Multiscale.
Flash Cannons is our main way to damage rock types and is decent STAB for a few other things. It's imperative we're able to weaken rock and steel types for our sweepers as thats a lot of pressure on Groudon to take hits and deal with them as well as them resisting Salas only STAB so Dialga is here to lighten the load, though Arceus can help em out with EQ as well. The speed should outspeed most standard Groudon. Oh and Shuca is great to take a hit from Groudon-Prime and retaliate with Draco. It also makes it a check towards Salamence at least once.
What about a more defensive set to take hits better
Dialga @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 244 HP / 252 SpD / 12 Spe
Calm Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Roar
Draco still hits pretty hard and can roar out setup mons like CM Arceus, Double Dance Pdon, etc. Can also stick Flash Cannon in there instead of Roar.
252+ SpA Dialga Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Primal Groudon: 229-271 (56.6 - 67%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Dialga Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Primal Groudon: 177-208 (43.8 - 51.4%) -- 8.2% chance to 2HKO
Not too much of a difference
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Ðew™
Definition of insanity
Oh, it is on now. On like donkey kong up in this thread.
Quick hits before I get this rolling:
~Metalsonic will be a universal substitute, though due to her pledge of allegiance, she will be primarily for rowlet. She brought up the point of subs via PM and I had no definitive answer for it. Someone recruited her to that team and she agreed to be a sub for them so I will honor that agreement.
~There is and was no draft. Here's what we on PS came up with for balance issues:
~~Ptz (who I'm hoping won't mind this) is moved to Team Popplio.
~~MeanMrSnorlax agreed to change his allegiance and is also on Team Popplio.
~Team Rowlet wins the recruitment match up, 5-10. Good job, I still feel popplio is cuter.
The quick hits are brought to you by the VO Ubers CCAT. Don't forget to suggest sets!
TEAM ROWLET
Captain: Dragonicwari
Garneil.
Regi_Rocks
Utopian
Meliekpi
blues
Aura Sensei
Metalsonic
VERSUS
TEAM POPPLIO
Captain: Conquer Phoenix
Dew
Erron black
DiaRubyTandem
Fate
Ptz
MeanMrSnorlax
Rules
1) Standard serebii war guidlines: ORAS OU, best of 3, etc.
2) Ignore most of the fun stuff I had planned in the first post. It probably won't happen because I didn't plan it out properly. Again, most
3) Due to other SPPF rules, please no trash talk on the forums. It's allowed, just not here on the thread.
4) Teambuilding restrictions. Oh heck yes, I'm going there. Teams must have at least 1 final evolution of a starter family. Team Rowlet must have a grass type starter, while Team Popplio must have a water type starter...on each team. Don't be afraid to get creative! Yes, greninja is still banned...unless you're a Captain: Greninja is unlocked for Nick while Shaymin-Sky is unlocked for Wari's use.
Matchups (Team Rowlet vs Team Popplio)
Dragonicwari vs Conquer Phoenix
Meliekpi vs Dew
blues vs Erron black
Utopian vs Fate
Metalsonic vs MeanMrSnorlax
Aura Sensei vs Ptz
Garneil. (2) vsDiaRubyTandem(0)
Guild Challenges
~Have your starter pokemon defeat at least 3 pokemon. Hazards count.
~Finish the match without letting your starter faint.
~Don't use your starter...at all.
Guild Master's Challenges (bonus points!!! Yes, Meta, I threw these in just for you!)
~Your starter defeats 3 pokemon in a row (Hazard kills count)
~Finish the match with your starter on the field
Deadline is in 2 weeks. Specifically, matches must be done by June 20, at 11:59 EST/GMT -5.
May the cutest starter win!!! Good luck and have fun to all!
Go Team Popplio, we can do it!
Probably should have made this clear, but please post results here or message me at least!
Speaking of results...team rowlet strikes first with garneil defeating diarubytandem 2-0.
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MetalSonic
Orderan' Defendan'
Woah check those leaks, dudes.
Diggin the rockweiler. Not so much about the sleepin dude, but his ability seems really interesting. I imagine Magearna Fleur Cannon is gonna be like a powered up Flash Cannon maybe? Or it'd be cool if it was like Hawluchas Flying Press with two types.
Diggin the rockweiler. Not so much about the sleepin dude, but his ability seems really interesting. I imagine Magearna Fleur Cannon is gonna be like a powered up Flash Cannon maybe? Or it'd be cool if it was like Hawluchas Flying Press with two types.
ALRIGHT FAM.
I'm going to spearhead this Ubers CCAT Taskforce right now.
I'm feeling pretty good after the eater of worlds Mega Mence was nominated as the mon to build around...so here's my next nomination.
Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Transform
THAT'S
RIGHT.
You might think, but BLUES., that's a really intimidating pokemon..our opponents are going to soil themselves...and you're right. It might be pink but it's pink because
it bathes
in the
BLOOD
of its
ENEMIES.
When your opponent has his sweeper set up and tells you to switch in your last pathetic pokemon so he can end this, you hit em with the
"My team doesn't have pathetic pokemon, scrub. But what it does have, is the unstoppable ditto."
While Prof. Oak yells at your opponent that now isn't that time to use that, you throw in Blissey's adorable first once removed cousin and send your opponent back to Pallet Town like the scrub they are.
Having trouble imagining it? CLICK HERE for a small video demonstration as to what happens next.
But what if your opponent can check your block your sweep?
Then,
IT'S
THEIR
FUNERAL
r.i.p
Beacuase...
We'll just absorb another mon's forme and CRUSH them.
FEAR
THE
GOD.
Ok, seriously though:
Ditto is a pretty versatile wildcard that differs from gimmick sets because you're guaranteed to get the team slot's worth out of him in one form or another *ba ton pass*
We can send this in on SD/CM/Ekiller Arceus,
Get it in on Darkrai after sleep clause and sleep their mon
We can bring it in on soul dew lati@s and abuse the same stats but with higher speed.
If they've got something set up, we can hijack their sweep.
If they have your favorite pokemon and you want to use it for a bit, send in Ditto.
You're not sure what coverage moves your opponent has on a threat to your team, send in Ditto to scout.
They took out your hazards? Hijack their hazards.
They have a support mon and you need a support mon? Hijack their support.
WHATEVER YOU WANT. YOU'VE GOT IT.
PROOF:
WARNING:
Subs will prevent us from transforming into our opponent,
CM Arceus is troublesome (according to the losers at Smogon...aka TDK<3)
Also, the IV's we give ditto are important in the event that we clone an opponent's pokemon that runs Hidden Power. Smogon recomends "0 Speed IVs lower Speed even more and give the IVs for Hidden Power Ice so Ditto can hit Rayquaza and similar foes super effectively, in the case Ditto transforms into a foe that has Hidden Power. The IVs for Hidden Power Ground, 30 Def / 30 SpA / 1 Spe, are an option if you aim to copy a weakened Xerneas and beat its checks." Although the latter assumes a non-scarf set so I nominate ditto with HP Ice IV's
Renominating this set since everyone stopped giving a damn about this CCAT LOL
MetalSonic
Orderan' Defendan'
psst hey
got at least 1 guaranteed free spot on war team
Who wants to be on?
Gonna need a few more subs as well!
If you wanna be up for consideration, PM or VM me so we can set this up quickly for some warrin
Also, do not set up wars without my permission. I can promise to do one later, but we can't go through with them yet if I don't make sure everything's in order and everyone has time for it.
got at least 1 guaranteed free spot on war team
Who wants to be on?
Gonna need a few more subs as well!
If you wanna be up for consideration, PM or VM me so we can set this up quickly for some warrin
Also, do not set up wars without my permission. I can promise to do one later, but we can't go through with them yet if I don't make sure everything's in order and everyone has time for it.
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Dragonicwari
Artistically angry
Beat nick 2-0
Also I think I completed each challenge except for not using my starter in the matches
Also I think I completed each challenge except for not using my starter in the matches
Conquer Phoenix
Falling Light
Conforming I should had been better prepared sorry about that team
Idk if we are warring again or not I will be free this week and will strive to help clan members with teams battles or other tiers and stuff to.
Also Latios taking lives
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-385988006
Idk if we are warring again or not I will be free this week and will strive to help clan members with teams battles or other tiers and stuff to.
Also Latios taking lives
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-385988006
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MetalSonic
Orderan' Defendan'
VOTAN TIME
Ahh im late, sorry, somethin absolutely dreadful happened irl, but gotta get to this while I got some time! Sorry for the wait!
Anywho, here's the two mons! One grants us Stealth Rock and appreciated coverage against the Steels and Rocks of the tier for Salamence, and the others presence pretty much forces the opp to play smart with their set ups otherwise get harshly punished on their haste as well as a nice scout for sets. So vote now! All votes count, EVERY SINGLE ONE.
hav 2 b 4 the 2 mons above tho
Whichever one you choose, let's get it! We're almost finished here!
Ubers Viability Thread
Votin for this round shall end
June 17'th 12:00 PM CMT
Also, im gonna be puttin up another challenge soon! Lemme just think it up cause it's time for another, yeah?? A lot of stuff has happened with the Pokemon scene in regards to sunmoon to...
Dialga @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 196 HP / 252 SpA / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Thunder
- Flash Cannon / Toxic
- Stealth Rock
Okie so we need 3 things on this team still; Rocks, a steel type (ok not rly mandatory but yknow), and somethin to threaten rock types like Arc-Rock and T-Tar. It's also a very good rocker in unlike Groudon, it doesnt just invite in Giratina/Latias to defog things away cause its quite an offensive rocker. Draco Meteor is the meat of this sets power, OHKO'ing Giratina and weakening Groudon severely for Xerneas. Fire Blast actually roasts Klefki and Arc-Steel, Bronzong, Jirachi and is especially good for Klefki cause it can leave our sweepers with a nasty Para, but Thunder can be used to hit Ho-Oh, Arc-Water, and Tentacruel really hard and Kyogre as well without having to Draco and leave us open afterwards. Both also hit Skarmory which so far give our team a bit of trouble as our only means of dealing with it are brute forcing past it or playing around with it via potential Magic Coat Arc. I don't have to emphasize the importance of Stealth Rock. It's good for whittling things down and arguably even more important is its ability to help limit Ho-Ohs switch ins and breaking Lugias Multiscale.
Flash Cannons is our main way to damage rock types and is decent STAB for a few other things. It's imperative we're able to weaken rock and steel types for our sweepers as thats a lot of pressure on Groudon to take hits and deal with them as well as them resisting Salas only STAB so Dialga is here to lighten the load, though Arceus can help em out with EQ as well. The speed should outspeed most standard Groudon. Oh and Shuca is great to take a hit from Groudon-Prime and retaliate with Draco. It also makes it a check towards Salamence at least once. A Calm Nature and 244 HP / 252 SpD / 12 Spe spread could also be used to take hits a bit better, with Toxic to help wear down bulkier Pokemon such as Lugia and Arc-Water so Salamence can assuredly have an easier time dealing with them.
Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Transform
THAT'S
RIGHT.
You might think, but BLUES., that's a really intimidating pokemon..our opponents are going to soil themselves...and you're right. It might be pink but it's pink because
it bathes
in the
BLOOD
of its
ENEMIES.
When your opponent has his sweeper set up and tells you to switch in your last pathetic pokemon so he can end this, you hit em with the
"My team doesn't have pathetic pokemon, scrub. But what it does have, is the unstoppable ditto."
While Prof. Oak yells at your opponent that now isn't that time to use that, you throw in Blissey's adorable first once removed cousin and send your opponent back to Pallet Town like the scrub they are.
Having trouble imagining it? CLICK HERE for a small video demonstration as to what happens next.
But what if your opponent can check your block your sweep?
Then,
IT'S
THEIR
FUNERAL
r.i.p
Beacuase...
We'll just absorb another mon's forme and CRUSH them.
FEAR
THE
GOD.
Set Description
vvv
Ok, seriously though:
Ditto is a pretty versatile wildcard that differs from gimmick sets because you're guaranteed to get the team slot's worth out of him in one form or another *ba ton pass*
We can send this in on SD/CM/Ekiller Arceus,
Get it in on Darkrai after sleep clause and sleep their mon
We can bring it in on soul dew lati@s and abuse the same stats but with higher speed.
If they've got something set up, we can hijack their sweep.
If they have your favorite pokemon and you want to use it for a bit, send in Ditto.
You're not sure what coverage moves your opponent has on a threat to your team, send in Ditto to scout.
They took out your hazards? Hijack their hazards.
They have a support mon and you need a support mon? Hijack their support.
WHATEVER YOU WANT. YOU'VE GOT IT.
PROOF:
WARNING:
Subs will prevent us from transforming into our opponent,
CM Arceus is troublesome (according to the losers at Smogon...aka TDK<3)
Ahh im late, sorry, somethin absolutely dreadful happened irl, but gotta get to this while I got some time! Sorry for the wait!
Anywho, here's the two mons! One grants us Stealth Rock and appreciated coverage against the Steels and Rocks of the tier for Salamence, and the others presence pretty much forces the opp to play smart with their set ups otherwise get harshly punished on their haste as well as a nice scout for sets. So vote now! All votes count, EVERY SINGLE ONE.
hav 2 b 4 the 2 mons above tho
Whichever one you choose, let's get it! We're almost finished here!
Salamence @ Salamencite
Ability: Intimidate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 248 HP / 136 Def / 124 Spe
Impish Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Frustration
- Refresh
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 56 HP / 156 Def / 252 SpA / 44 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
- Aromatherapy
Arceus @ Silk Scarf
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Claw
- Magic Coat
- Swords Dance
Groudon @ Red Orb
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Atk / 48 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Swords Dance
- Precipice Blades
- Rock Slide
Ability: Intimidate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 248 HP / 136 Def / 124 Spe
Impish Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Frustration
- Refresh
Xerneas @ Power Herb
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 56 HP / 156 Def / 252 SpA / 44 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
- Aromatherapy
Arceus @ Silk Scarf
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Claw
- Magic Coat
- Swords Dance
Groudon @ Red Orb
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Atk / 48 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Swords Dance
- Precipice Blades
- Rock Slide
Ubers Viability Thread
Votin for this round shall end
June 17'th 12:00 PM CMT
Also, im gonna be puttin up another challenge soon! Lemme just think it up cause it's time for another, yeah?? A lot of stuff has happened with the Pokemon scene in regards to sunmoon to...
Lugia-sama
Sagacity
MetalSonic
Orderan' Defendan'
dialge or ditto, ptz ;-;
It's a lil better, thank you!
I wonder what kinda chall yall want. Do you want it super hard?
Oh and ive finally moved along the PU Tournament! BLUES. and Conquer Phoenix, you're up.
~~~
also battled with MMS for the civil war, this was also your test battle! You ranked up!
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-386661644
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-386659611
gg's, if you need your battle in, get it in!
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Panther Swag Aye
New Member
PO/PS Name?: Panther Pressure
Wi-Fi Friend Code?: N/A
Why do you want to join?: BLUEZ7 Invited me, and seems like a good pastime
Number of badges of Serebii Leagues?: Zero
Battling Experience?: 2 Years Competitive
Referrer?: N/A
Battle Form: Dunno what this is asking. I gonna assume style, and it is balance for the most part.
Code: No Idea
Rank?: No Idea
Oppnents Serebii name?: No Idea
Win or Lose?: I like Winning
Score?: 1571
Your current won battle total? 34 outta 44
How did u feel about it?: Pretty aight. Swag Gang Gang
Wi-Fi Friend Code?: N/A
Why do you want to join?: BLUEZ7 Invited me, and seems like a good pastime
Number of badges of Serebii Leagues?: Zero
Battling Experience?: 2 Years Competitive
Referrer?: N/A
Battle Form: Dunno what this is asking. I gonna assume style, and it is balance for the most part.
Code: No Idea
Rank?: No Idea
Oppnents Serebii name?: No Idea
Win or Lose?: I like Winning
Score?: 1571
Your current won battle total? 34 outta 44
How did u feel about it?: Pretty aight. Swag Gang Gang
Welcome to the clan man!
Ðew™
Definition of insanity
Civil War is won. Team Rowlet completes the sweep 4-0. Great war guys, let's do it again soon!
ps team Popplio was still the better team so they won instead
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